[Theory] Uzumaki does not come from Hamura

[Torche]

Nah, Uzumaki spawned from nothing Lol That's how it seems with how EVERY other MAJOR clan has been brought up besides them :|

 

[Torche]

Attention Chapter 681 Black Zetsu admitted He change the Uchiha tablets. He lied. Get it? Everything the Uchiha read on the tablet was a Lie from Black Zetsu.

He did change the entire thing, he change SOME of it.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Attention Chapter 681 Black Zetsu admitted He change the Uchiha tablets. He lied. Get it? Everything the Uchiha read on the tablet was a Lie from Black Zetsu.

I thought he changed what the shinju was and how MT is a great idea .-.

 

[Honord Sage]

He did change the entire thing, he change SOME of it.

To bring Back Kaguya,admit it Black Zetsu Fool the Uchiha used them from Indra to Sasuke in his dark day mode. He probably implanted the Uchiha rebellion against the village in the first place that lead to the Uchiha Massacre.

 

[Byakugan12x]

There's no way uzumaki can stem from the senju. Ashura only has one line that we know of. Anybody born from his line is directly related to the senju, so for the uzumaki to be distant relatives they would have to come from either Indras line or Hamura's.

Also it's never been implied that indra/ashura only transmigration to their descendants, so I don't see how it doesn't make sense to you. Rikudo said that Naruto reminded him of Ashura, their similarities could be all there is to why naruto was picked.

Anyway, I'm going with Hamura. I feel like the only reason he and kaguya was introduced was to tie the 4 clans together.

Yes there is everyway uzamaki can be related to the senju you just ignored every post showing that it's more plausible then what you are suggesting. And I think you are missing the point in one respect, clearly the it was very much implied that they can only reincarnate within their own clans. Hence the reason that the Uchiha have the curse of hatred because of indra, and the reason why the senju and uchiha were fighting all this time. Remember when zetsu said nagato can use the rinnegan because he was of senju lineage. And we know that nagato is a uzamaki. So it makes more sense to say that the clans are this way, indra - uchiha clan, asura - senju clan, senju clan splits and part of it becomes the uzamaki clan. And humera has the Hyuuga clan.

 

[LordJashin]

Yes there is everyway uzamaki can be related to the senju you just ignored every post showing that it's more plausible then what you are suggesting. And I think you are missing the point in one respect, clearly the it was very much implied that they can only reincarnate within their own clans. Hence the reason that the Uchiha have the curse of hatred because of indra, and the reason why the senju and uchiha were fighting all this time. Remember when zetsu said nagato can use the rinnegan because he was of senju lineage. And we know that nagato is a uzamaki. So it makes more sense to say that the clans are this way, indra - uchiha clan, asura - senju clan, senju clan splits and part of it becomes the uzamaki clan. And humera has the Hyuuga clan.

With this post you've managed to say so much without saying anything at all. What post have I ignored that shows uzumaki and senju connections? How was it ever implied that the transmigrants only go to uchiha/senju? Where does the senju line split?

 

[Cael]

With this post you've managed to say so much without saying anything at all. What post have I ignored that shows uzumaki and senju connections? How was it ever implied that the transmigrants only go to uchiha/senju? Where does the senju line split?

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[Battle Neurosis]

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I see!
This panel really shows that Indra tried to transmigrate itself into every Uchiha but BZ failed just like BZ also approached every transmigrant of Senju and failed except in the case of Madara and Hashirama!

 

[LordJashin]

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This doesn't really say anything. Also as I said earlier, MS and MP can differ very wildly.

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No one ever suggested that Indra and Ashura only choose their respective clans to transmigrate. In fact as Rikudo said:

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Naruto reminds him exactly of Ashura, that could very well be why Ashura chose Naruto.

I see!
This panel really shows that Indra tried to transmigrate itself into every Uchiha but BZ failed just like BZ also approached every transmigrant of Senju and failed except in the case of Madara and Hashirama!

He approached every transmigrate to try and awaken the Rinnegan, not random uchicha and senju. Only Madara succeeded, not Hashi

 

[Byakugan12x]

This doesn't really say anything. Also as I said earlier, MS and MP can differ very wildly.

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No one ever suggested that Indra and Ashura only choose their respective clans to transmigrate. In fact as Rikudo said:

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Naruto reminds him exactly of Ashura, that could very well be why Ashura chose Naruto.




He approached every transmigrate to try and awaken the Rinnegan, not random uchicha and senju. Only Madara succeeded, not Hashi

Funny how you said that the translations can very quite differently, and then you quote a MP translation without comparing it to the ms translation.

Also if we compare the MS with the MP translation they are pretty much the same in this regard.

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[HouKage]

Yes there is everyway uzamaki can be related to the senju you just ignored every post showing that it's more plausible then what you are suggesting. And I think you are missing the point in one respect, clearly the it was very much implied that they can only reincarnate within their own clans. Hence the reason that the Uchiha have the curse of hatred because of indra, and the reason why the senju and uchiha were fighting all this time. Remember when zetsu said nagato can use the rinnegan because he was of senju lineage. And we know that nagato is a uzamaki. So it makes more sense to say that the clans are this way, indra - uchiha clan, asura - senju clan, senju clan splits and part of it becomes the uzamaki clan. And humera has the Hyuuga clan.

Not exactly . .. 'clearly'
only going to HIS OWN CLAN is something the founder of the Uchiha would do
because he THOUGHT HE AND ONLY HE could do everything
so . .. it would make sense that he would think ONLY HIS CLAN was worthy of accomplishing his goal

This brother was a uniter who worked with everyone
So he would be more apt to go outside his clan for help

Just my opinion

 

[Battle Neurosis]

He approached every transmigrate to try and awaken the Rinnegan, not random uchicha and senju. Only Madara succeeded, not Hashi

But BZ told that he explored transmigrant of each clan and couldn't be able to succeed!
What does that mean?!
Does "each clan" mean the clans he talked about at the previous talk Balloon?
If that is the case, then, he talked about Ashura and Senju and Indra and Uchiha......he explored transmigrant of each clan!!
What does the panel mean by summing up these Talk Balloons??
It means here that each clan is the referred clans he talked about. That means BZ only explored the transmigrant of Indra and Ashura, respectively, into Uchiha clan and Senju Clan, not in other clans. BZ didn't search for other clans because he might know that Transmigrant can only be resurfaced into their successors or descendants!