[Theory] Uzumaki does not come from Hamura

[Uchiha Ricardo]

I am new to naruto base and this is my first thread.

I think that ppl who say hamura is forefather of Uzumaki are wrong.
The Uzumaki come from the senju like what has been said somewhere in the manga. This is because ashura is where the senju started and ashura is hogoromos son.
Why would ashuras chakra go into an Uzumaki if they are hamuras descendents. It makes sense for ashura to reincarnate in senjus only.
The only reason why ashura is in an Uzumaki is because they must derive from senjus.

That means hogoromo is ancestor to senju uchiha and Uzumaki. Which is why kaguya sees hago in naruto Uzumaki.


What dyou guys think

P.s: do you think its senju dna that mixes with uchiha dna or is it ashura and indra chakra mix that gets you the power?

 

[ObitoRolent]

Oh you want scans of dat dam byakugan??

 

[Sirajknight]

Its always ashura and indra chakra that gives you the power.

 

[Harsh srivastava]

a reincarnation need not be in same family

 

[Uchiha Ricardo]

Ah crap I mean Uzumaki not hyuga. Forget I ever wrote hyuga

 

[Uchiha Ricardo]

So they could reincarnate into one of tentens relatives?

 

[V h o]

I disagree but I wouldn't care if naruto wasn't.

 

[Honord Sage]

Uzumaki cousins to the Senju and Uchiha Who are Brother Clans because their Father was Hagoromo now to be cousin you mutts have an uncle or aunt. Hamura is Hagoromo brother. Hamura having Children would make His Children Cousins to Hagoromo Children. Get the picture? Hagoromo became the Grandfather of the Uchiha and the Senju. Hamura the Grand Father of the Uzumaki and the Hyuga. It fits its logical it follows the same progression and all four Clans have Kaguya as their Great Grandmother. Each Clan has DNA from Kaguya and powers from Her.

 

[Uchiha Ricardo]

Hamura formed hyuga only, calling it now

 

[InvaderRaz]

It was never ever ever ever said that the Uzumaki come from the Senju, it was only ever stated that they were distant relatives. Hago and Hamu were brothers, Hyuga and Uzumaki are brothers, but they are also cousins to the Senju/Uchihia. Sound like distant relatives to me (when you account for 1000 years of ancestry)

 

[Honord Sage]

Hamura formed hyuga only, calling it now

You're going to end up like Madara Fans getting Troll.

 

[tasuxeda]

I believe your right about the Uzumaki being descended from the Senju clan.

 

[Cael]

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don't listen to them your are right, here white zetsu says that nagato who is an uzumaki is from the senju lineage, they won't listen to you thou, so just ignore them

 

[LordJashin]

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don't listen to them your are right, here white zetsu says that nagato who is an uzumaki is from the senju lineage, they won't listen to you thou, so just ignore them

Where is that from? MP/MS can be wildly inaccurate. The way the story is now, there are only two lines from hagoromo. For the Uzumaki to be related there would have to be another branch stemming from either kaguya or the father, who I don't think exists. Hamura is the only logical conclusion based on what we have.

 

[Seventh Sama]

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don't listen to them your are right, here white zetsu says that nagato who is an uzumaki is from the senju lineage, they won't listen to you thou, so just ignore them

^This. Anyways why would ashura reincarnate into a different relatives descendants rather than his own?

 

[Cael]

Where is that from? MP/MS can be wildly inaccurate. The way the story is now, there are only two lines from hagoromo. For the Uzumaki to be related there would have to be another branch stemming from either kaguya or the father, who I don't think exists. Hamura is the only logical conclusion based on what we have.

the uzumaki branch is stemming from the senju side. and that's how they are related.
how is the story now ? the last time uzumaki's were mention was during obito story. I don't see how this in anyways affect the story.

if the uzumaki brach is stemming from the senju side then that makes alot more sense consider naruto is now ashura reincarnated

it wouldn't make any sense if ashura would reincarnated into hamura's descendant.

 

[LordJashin]

the uzumaki branch is stemming from the senju side. and that's how they are related.
how is the story now ? the last time uzumaki's were mention was during obito story. I don't see how this in anyways affect the story.

if the uzumaki brach is stemming from the senju side then that makes alot more sense consider naruto is now ashura reincarnated

it wouldn't make any sense if ashura would reincarnated into hamura's descendant.

There's no way uzumaki can stem from the senju. Ashura only has one line that we know of. Anybody born from his line is directly related to the senju, so for the uzumaki to be distant relatives they would have to come from either Indras line or Hamura's.

Also it's never been implied that indra/ashura only transmigration to their descendants, so I don't see how it doesn't make sense to you. Rikudo said that Naruto reminded him of Ashura, their similarities could be all there is to why naruto was picked.

Anyway, I'm going with Hamura. I feel like the only reason he and kaguya was introduced was to tie the 4 clans together.

 

[Battle Neurosis]

I am new to naruto base and this is my first thread.

I think that ppl who say hamura is forefather of Uzumaki are wrong.
The Uzumaki come from the senju like what has been said somewhere in the manga. This is because ashura is where the senju started and ashura is hogoromos son.
Why would ashuras chakra go into an Uzumaki if they are hamuras descendents. It makes sense for ashura to reincarnate in senjus only.
The only reason why ashura is in an Uzumaki is because they must derive from senjus.

That means hogoromo is ancestor to senju uchiha and Uzumaki. Which is why kaguya sees hago in naruto Uzumaki.


What dyou guys think

P.s: do you think its senju dna that mixes with uchiha dna or is it ashura and indra chakra mix that gets you the power?

You are welcome!
Uzumaki are distant relative of Senju, so, I think, someone from Senju might start a separate family into far away place from the Senju homeland but he/she kept his/her relation with the Clan in good term, thus, creating a separate clan in later time!
Though the shifted clan was not purely senju but they have some traits of Senju as both the Senju and Uzumaki have very much potent yang chakra.

Another thing that might have happened!

We all know that Hagoromo and Hamura are two brothers.
Hagoromo had two sons, one inheriting the eye of their father and other inheriting the body of their father. That means one has the Yin Energy most and other has the Yang energy most.
So, can it be possible that Hamura has also two sons, one having the eye of their father, that should be Hyuuga, other having the body of their father, that should be Uzumaki.
As both Hagoromo and Hamura got their Yang part from their Mother, so it is possible that Hagormo's Yang and Hamura's Yang had some similarity that had passed on their descendants, thus both Senju and Uzumaki having almost same type of potent Yang Chakra!
And so Nagato can also summon Gedou Mazou just like a Senju!
Besides, White Zetsu or Black Zetsu, whoever was talking, might be telling wrong information to Obito after all, Zetsu had other goals in their mind all the time and that is to use the Uchiha as much as possible to reach his ultimate goal!

I think, Senju DNA and Uchiha DNA may do the trick!

 

[Seventh Sama]

There's no way uzumaki can stem from the senju. Ashura only has one line that we know of. Anybody born from his line is directly related to the senju, so for the uzumaki to be distant relatives they would have to come from either Indras line or Hamura's.

Also it's never been implied that indra/ashura only transmigration to their descendants, so I don't see how it doesn't make sense to you. Rikudo said that Naruto reminded him of Ashura, their similarities could be all there is to why naruto was picked.

Anyway, I'm going with Hamura. I feel like the only reason he and kaguya was introduced was to tie the 4 clans together.

So its possible for indra to reincarnate into neji?....

 

[Honord Sage]

Attention Chapter 681 Black Zetsu admitted He change the Uchiha tablets. He lied. Get it? Everything the Uchiha read on the tablet was a Lie from Black Zetsu.