Uzumaki are the senju ancestors -common sense

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true, i think i misunderstood what you meant :sweat:

anyways to the OP : no offence but, when you say something like "what some idiots believe" then i can't take this seriously, and again i DEMAND removing the "common sense" from the thread title U_U.

I could care less what you think about how i worded it,it doesn't change what is written in this thread.

Now that we established that your not reading it and therefore have no valid opinion on the discussion at hand.
You can leave.
 

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This is the second time your misunderstood what i said

I said it was not uncommon for priest to gdhDGHGDH blah,blah what ever said.

Not Uncommon means it was a normal sight to see.

And the other post of mine i said "That is why kishi did NOT HAVE obito flat out say the uzumaki are the descendants of the senju"

I am guess English is not your first language /: ?

I was trolling ya :p
 

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"uninformed opinion" huh (what a cool comeback), sure thing dude (didn't know that this was a competition, specially in a fail of a theory) :yeah:

It wasn't a comeback it was merely an observation.

You can't form an opinion on the discussion if you don't read the thread.
It is called common sense.Something you clearly lack.

Here let me address you in the manner you are most custom to

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It wasn't a comeback it was merely an observation.

You can't form an opinion on the discussion if you don't read the thread.
It is called common sense.Something you clearly lack.

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i edited that post and i like the attitude :heh: such a good way to get people to read your theory or do you just feel tough with that attitude on the internet (just messing with you lol).

no need to get on the defensive (kind of childish, it's just a theory about something in a MANGA), it's all good though, i'll let you go back to that "common sense" of your's XD (showing of Manga info ............ really ??? especially when you got it wrong lol).

tip : be more organized the next time you write your thread (the scans are not working by the way lol).
 
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I'm sure if Naruto ends up confirming that the Sage has not been an Uzumaki, those strongly insisting the contrary will say: "We still believe so but Kishi has twisted it"
 

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i edited that post and i like the attitude :heh: such a good way to get people to read your theory or do you just feel tough with that attitude on the internet (just messing with you lol).

no need to get on the defensive, it's all good, i'll let you go back to that "common sense" of your's XD (showing of Manga info ............ really ??? specially when you got it wrong lol).

AAwwee shucks Jiraiya Perv used memes and an emocon.

I sure must be heated now huh ?lol

I don't know what manga facts you think i got wrong.

I barely cite any manga facts because the evidence kinda speaks for itself.

But,don't give up hope.

Maybe one day you might actually take the time and try to argue certain points in this thread to get your point across.


......Or you can make memes and continue not to read it and talk about how i got manga facts wrong.

I mean who needs a debate when we have this ? lol
 

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There is something I don't like in that theory:
Uzumaki Naruto feels something with Sasuke Uchiha.
Uzumaki Karin is in love with Sasuke Uchiha.
Uzumaki Mito got married with Hashirama Senju.

It's hard to think that natural selection make Uzumaki love Sage's sons descendants , if they were that much close blood-wise.
How do you explain the ***-attraction between Uzumakis and descendants of the 2 sons of the SO6P?
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I'm sure if Naruto ends up confirming that the Sage has not been an Uzumaki, those strongly insisting the contrary will say: "We still believe so but Kishi has twisted it"

Maybe,i would be sorely disappointed if that were the case however,the chances of this being wrong are as likely as the proposal you came up with.
 

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There is something I don't like in that theory:
Uzumaki Naruto feels something with Sasuke Uchiha.
Uzumaki Karin is in love with Sasuke Uchiha.
Uzumaki Mito got married with Hashirama Senju.

It's hard to think that natural selection make Uzumaki love Sage's sons descendants , if they were that much close blood-wise.
How do you explain the ***-attraction between Uzumakis and descendants of the 2 sons of the SO6P?

I don't know you seem to know more about this seemingly underlying sexual attraction between these two clans so how about you tell me instead ? lol
 

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Kuramas yang chakra is what makes naruto more senju-like
 

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AAwwee shucks Jiraiya Perv used memes and an emocon.

I sure must be heated now huh ?lol

I don't know what manga facts you think i got wrong.

I barely cite any manga facts because the evidence kinda speaks for itself.

But,don't give up hope.

Maybe one day you might actually take the time and try to argue certain points in this thread to get your point across.


......Or you can make memes and continue not to read it and talk about how i got manga facts wrong.

I mean who needs a debate when we have this ? lol

did i say "manga facts" ?? where ?? :heh: (read my posts slowly/carefully you will find some that said "do you know the difference between using the Rinnegan and awakening it ??).

so yah i'll bite *_* (just because i think you're funny/funny thread) again do you know the difference between using the Rinnegan and awakening it ?? since you mentioned Nagato as an example.

state the requirements to unlock it (with scans) and the requirements to be able to use it (with scans) and i'll tell you what went wrong here (although the manga already confirmed the SO6P not being an Uzumaki/Uzumaki came after him, am willing to listen to this funny thread).
 
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Don't agree with any of this at all.
 

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The eyes were implanted into Nagato, it's not like he awakened the power himself. Still he couldn't use the true power of the Rinnegan as the SO6P did. The Uzumaki life force is one of the strongest of all clans, since they were closely related to the Senju it would make sense that they are able to harness some of the power.
 

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I don't know you seem to know more about this seemingly underlying sexual attraction between these two clans so how about you tell me instead ? lol

You don't find that strange?

I believe your instinct make you fall in love with someone who is not close to you blood-wise or DNA-wise or Yin/Yang-wise.
This instinct would prevent consanguinity ...
 

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Kuramas yang chakra is what makes naruto more senju-like

I have no clue in what that even means in regard to this thread.

What makes him senju like is the fact that their related.

uzumaki are known for having strong psychical bodies like the senju.

But,the uzumaki also have a strong vitality that lets them live unusually long.

Which the senju do not have.
 

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Seems like u got some point. But we know there were no any shinobi(who can use chakra/have special powers) clans before SO6P was born, its stated in manga when it began-SO6P mother intentionally ate that fruit. Any way uzumakis cant be the direct descent of SO6P. Its been clearly stated in manga that senju and uchiha were direct descendent of the hermit sage. So there must be something special abt uzumakis rather than genes. Just like something special that made killer bee a successful jinchurriki.
 

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did i say "manga facts" ?? where ?? :heh: (read my posts slowly/carefully you will find some that said "do you know the difference between using the Rinnegan and awakening it ??).

so yah i'll bite *_* (just because i think you're funny/funny thread) again do you know the difference between using the Rinnegan and awakening it ?? since you mentioned Nagato as an example.

state the requirements to unlock it (with scans) and the requirements to be able to use it (with scans).


"no need to get on the defensive, it's all good, i'll let you go back to that "common sense" of your's (showing of Manga info ............ really ??? specially when you got it wrong lol)."

So now that we have that out of the way.(I guess yo momentarily got amnesia ?)

Anyway i already or should i say kishi already explicitly stated you need the progenitor gene to have the rinnegan.
I will not waste my time repeating what makes up a progenitor gene (You didn't read the thread so that is your loss)
And we know obito sought nagato.Because he was related to the senju,because you need the right dna.

If you do not have the correct genes you cannot/sustain or awaken the rinnegan.

Let me cut you off here because i know your going to say something about the sharingan and once again it is not progenitor gene there is no specific make up to awaken the sharingan other then being a uchiha.

It is a self sustained dojustu of the uchiha.

The rinnegan was the sages whose dna was split and therefore the rinengan needs that specific dna.


Are we destined to dance this eternal dance ?

Me correcting your movements every step of the way ?

If we keep going like this then by evening our waltz will be the most beautiful thing to grace the dance floor don't you agree ?
 

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"Uzumaki and Senju are distant blood relatives." as Kushina told Naruto.

If Uzumaki were as close as you say from Senju , Kushina won't say "distant".
 

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Seems like u got some point. But we know there were no any shinobi(who can use chakra/have special powers) clans before SO6P was born, its stated in manga when it began-SO6P mother intentionally ate that fruit. Any way uzumakis cant be the direct descent of SO6P. Its been clearly stated in manga that senju and uchiha were direct descendent of the hermit sage. So there must be something special abt uzumakis rather than genes. Just like something special that made killer bee a successful jinchurriki.

"Seems like u got some point. But we know there were no any shinobi(who can use chakra/have special powers) clans before SO6P was born"

They just couldn't use chakra.People could still use and manipulate spirtual energy and perform super human like feats through their psychical energy.

And no the uchiha and senju are not direct descendants of the sage.

The direct descendants of the sage are the ancestors of both the uchiha and the senju.

And kishi only said the senju and uzumaki are distant relatives.
He never states that they are direct descendants of the senju or even descendants period.
 
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