Understanding: Naruto vs Pain

[Mellanoma]

I see a lot of talk on the forums about how TSM Naruto > 6 paths of Pain and because of this Pain is super weak now. What people fail to realize that this fight was a battle of

Full Intel(Naruto) vs No Intel(Pain)...

Basically I would like to talk about how the battle actually went

Before Pain even fought Naruto he exhausted himself quite a bit due to

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Pain However knew nothing about Naruto except that he was the kyuubi and that the kyuubi was powerful.

Further more if Pain was not handicapped due to him

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No Intel Advantages:

Sage Mode
Rasen SHuriken Expansion
Sage Mode Clones


With these advantages Naruto was able to pull off stunts such as:

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as he loses his chakra absorber.

Next we have the

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which since no one knew about it I can't hold it against naruto. However naruto knew which pain absorbed chakra thus the reason I put it.

Last we have Sage Mode Clones

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was out of Sage energy but was surprised to the max when he got

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Finally, I'm not going to delve into the fight any more other than the fact that through all this he had poor intel on

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.

With this being said and learning about how poor intel vs full intel can really decide a fight. Stop belitting pain for Fighting Naruto with 0 intel. Also stop understimating the difference between Full intel and Poor intel.

Also I would like to add in terms of perseverance. Nagato did all this then revived everyone which too me is a testament of how strong he truly was.

Thoughts?

 

[Aya San]

He underestimated the nine tails, it's his fault since he faced bijuus before he should have an idea.

 

[Booker]

All I can think about was how awesome this fight was.

 

[Mellanoma]

He underestimated the nine tails, it's his fault since he faced bijuus before he should have an idea.

Honestly.. I think the 6 paths had a better chance against Kyuubi rather than SM Naruto due to the Kyuubi not having Sage Energy

All I can think about was how awesome this fight was.

was pretty awesome fight! Wish it was full power 6 paths vs KCM NAruto though

 

[Invsblphntm]

He underestimated the nine tails, it's his fault since he faced bijuus before he should have an idea.

Considering the Kyuubi is equal to at least five Bijuu... its hard to not underestimate it.


OT:

Pein Rikudo/Nagato is a superior fighter to Sennin Modo Naruto is the point you're trying to make, correct?

If so, then you are correct. Anyone who disagrees is just moronic, period.

 

[Mellanoma]

Considering the Kyuubi is equal to at least five Bijuu... its hard to not underestimate it.


OT:

Pein Rikudo/Nagato is a superior fighter to Sennin Modo Naruto is the point you're trying to make, correct?

If so, then you are correct. Anyone who disagrees is just moronic, period.

Well I was just explaining how No intel vs full intel can trully be devestating I agree with you as well to

 

[xcoyote]

Pain > SM Nardo
Kyuubi > Pain

 

[Draphsin]

The only reason that naruto won that fight.

Spoiler

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[juzumaki]

funny how as soon as rasenshuriken was about to finish pain off tendo comes back

 

[take it easy]

Pain > SM Nardo

pain cant beat sage mode naruto.

 

[Exaar]

Pain > SM Nardo
Kyuubi > Pain

Nah Pain > 50% Kyuubi.

Pains fully sized chibaku tensei should able to hold a 50% kyuubi.

 

[2justin9]

i think the kyuubi is by far stronger than all the others because in the manga where the other bijuus make one big bijuu dama naruto with the kyuubi made one and match their power

 

[xcoyote]

Nah Pain > 50% Kyuubi.

Pains fully sized chibaku tensei should able to hold a 50% kyuubi.

8t broke out of it in canon.

 

[Draphsin]

pain cant beat sage mode naruto.

Pein stomps him u_u

Nah Pain > 50% Kyuubi.

Pains fully sized chibaku tensei should able to hold a 50% kyuubi.

Agreed.

8t broke out of it in canon.

Yet he said that he could increase the size & that was after his village busting cst

 

[Naijakid]

Pain was just proud....and that's his downfall

 

[xcoyote]

Yet he said that he could increase the size & that was after his village busting cst

I see,my bad U_U

 

[take it easy]

Pein stomps him u_u

pain can defeat nariuto only after losing his sage mode. before this naruto beat shit from 5 paths.

 

[Aya San]

i think the kyuubi is by far stronger than all the others because in the manga where the other bijuus make one big bijuu dama naruto with the kyuubi made one and match their power

Naruto used physics, I personally don't believe his tbb was as strong as the 5 combined

 

[HadouKage]

This is common knowledge U_U

 

[itachiuchiha21]

kyuubi>pain XD

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