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Lately I have been seeing a bunch of people downplay Shanks, and at the same time Hype up weaklings. So this is just to clear some things up.

1. Sailed with the Pirate King himself for many adventures, we only know of a few of those adventures and only seen fragments of those and heard stories from high status characters inbthebseries. Sailed all the way up till his execution, so we can assume that shanks has already been to raftel once. I bet if he wanted to he could get there again.
2. Kings Haki is obviously a given on the list, only the best have this ability, such as ace, doffy, Rayleigh. That ability alone already qualifies you to be a runner for the new OK in my opinion. Sure he lost his arm to the sea king in the beginning but I blame that on plot device.
3. Highly respected by Mohawk even after loosing and arm, contrary to what everybody thinks, I don't think Mihawk passes fights with shanks now cause he feels superior are his arm loss, I think either he wasnt in the mood to fight when he was challenged by shanks the time mihawk went to show him luffys bountynwanna waste a lot of energy in that particular moment and probably noticed shanks was already hungover.
4. Sparring with with White Beard even though he was fighting in old age, we seen what he could do at MarineFord, his power almost sank it, he just didn't want to hurt his allies, took full blows from the thee admirals and still tanked, beat the he'll out of Red Dog, even after him having half of his face and brain blown off by Red Dog's punch. Even after that tanking Teach and his crew. You get the point, Shanks is on par with that man, maybe not in white beards prime, but old white beard is still nearly a God.
5. Ending the war at Marineford, as soon as the Red Hair's showed up everybody stopped, Teach with his two OP abilities and his crew said himself that they weren't ready to fight him. Red Dog was shaking in his boots. Kizaru tried but Ben had him point blank and that's even more impressive than what Rayleigh did, and we can only assume that shanks is stronger than Ben so there's that too. Even Sengoku agreed to heed his words and end it. The only two that weren't fazed besides Kizaru we're Garp and Buggy, and that cause they are both Op.
6. Scrimmages with Kaido's crew and bested them in the New World so for all the hype beasts riding Kaido you should check facts.
7. As far as we know shanks does not even possess a devil fruit, him accomplishing all of the following is impressing on it's own but with no devil fruit on record then it's amazing to say the least.

These we're only some of the feats of strength that I can recall so feel free to add more .

In short: Shanks>Old White Beard>Old Sengoku>Mihawk>Kaido>Teach>
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Yeah but still Mihawk over Shanks. :bdpf:
 

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In short: Shanks>Old White Beard>Old Sengoku>Mihawk>Kaido>Teach>
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Bro, you lost me there...

Sure, Shanks is all great and mighty and it's not sarcastic(he's my 2nd fav. from the show)... IMO he could've easily replicated his captain's adventure and got to Raftel; Rayleigh said "we know it all(about void century)", Shanks even knows the truth about WG and that's probably why Sengoku knelt down against Shanks at MF.
He even intercepted 'The invincible beast, Kaido' from getting in WB's way and not only made it out perfectly unscathed but very quickly too, and despite being a small crew(w.r.t. other Yonko) he still holds equal influence over the New-World like those having large fleets under their command, simply implying how powerful they all are...

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Kaido >= Mihawk = Shanks >= Akainu = Old WB > Teach >= Old Sengoku
 

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How the hell is Shanks underrated? Because people are now saying that Shanks is weaker than the stronger being in the world? Fanboys seriously need to get over that. Its been directly confirmed that Kaidou is #1.
 

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How the hell is Shanks underrated? Because people are now saying that Shanks is weaker than the stronger being in the world? Fanboys seriously need to get over that. Its been directly confirmed that Kaidou is #1.

Confirmed? You act like there can't and hasn't been hyperbole in manga before. Nothing's confirmed until the last panel really, until then it's only very likely.
 
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How the hell is Shanks underrated? Because people are now saying that Shanks is weaker than the stronger being in the world? Fanboys seriously need to get over that. Its been directly confirmed that Kaidou is #1.

It was clearly just hype set in to get the readers to keep reading, enel was supposed to be a God and in the manga they had panels with third person narration about him being God (supposedly ) but luffy defeated him, my point is that it's just hype not fact
 

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Haven't read but I just know I disagree.
 

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Lately I have been seeing a bunch of people downplay Shanks, and at the same time Hype up weaklings. So this is just to clear some things up.

1. Sailed with the Pirate King himself for many adventures, we only know of a few of those adventures and only seen fragments of those and heard stories from high status characters inbthebseries. Sailed all the way up till his execution, so we can assume that shanks has already been to raftel once. I bet if he wanted to he could get there again.

Why even mention this?
By that logic, buggy should also be a god.
 

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Confirmed? You act like there can't and hasn't been hyperbole in manga before. Nothing's confirmed until the last panel really, until then it's only very likely.

Well there's also the fact that it said "1 v 1, it is said you should always bet on this man. Kaidou, the strongest creature in the world!"

So if you always gotta bet on Kaidou in 1 v 1s, then that is what makes him the strongest to me. The fact that he is capable and suspected to beat anyone he comes across.
 

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You have written that shanks is the most powerful guy in OPverse, sorry but you are extremely wrong but thats none of my business anyway:bdpf:. Now make a thread of him being extremely overrated.
 

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Well there's also the fact that it said "1 v 1, it is said you should always bet on this man. Kaidou, the strongest creature in the world!"

So if you always gotta bet on Kaidou in 1 v 1s, then that is what makes him the strongest to me. The fact that he is capable and suspected to beat anyone he comes across.

That still can be proven to be a hyperbole by the end of the series so until then it's not really "confirmed"
 

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Blackbeard is superbly underrated.
 

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It was clearly just hype set in to get the readers to keep reading, enel was supposed to be a God and in the manga they had panels with third person narration about him being God (supposedly ) but luffy defeated him, my point is that it's just hype not fact

God is what the skypieans called their king... so yea he was god
 

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Confirmed? You act like there can't and hasn't been hyperbole in manga before. Nothing's confirmed until the last panel really, until then it's only very likely.

When was the last time the narrator overrated a character?
 

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When was the last time the narrator overrated a character?

Enel was one instance I can recall but if you'd like me to call out a list of instances right here right now, that's not gonna happen I don't have a list like that made up in my head I'd have to go look. But I'm not talking about just OP either I mean it happens in all manga, I'm pretty sure in Kingdom there was mention of Ooki being called the greatest or something along the lines and he dies and Naruto had a bit of hyperbole, Totsuka being the first to come to mind.

Also that wasn't the narrator that said that was it? I took it as Apoo(since he was there when he jumped when we first meet Kaido) saying those things as an expose to Kaido for the audience. Has it been animated yet? We'll have to see whose voice actor they get to read the lines.
 
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