Uncovering the truth about space time barrier opens new possibilities

[ajpn920]

What jiraya did isnt S/T barrier. For instance if kakashi has minato's kunai, why wont he teleport to another?

That's right. That's what i'm explaining in my thread. Minato can create a normal barrier. It looks like you skip the important part in my thread.

For your question about kakashi, then i'm already thinking about creating a separate thread all about FTG. You can also ask this question, if FTG is all about seals, then why can't Kushina being an Uzumaki can't perform it. Lot of mysteries but it is out of topic so we'll stick about the topic for now.

 

[AlphaScythian]

U dont understand. Minato cant create a barrier and leave it, he has to control it. S/T is not that kind of barrier.

 

[Zebstrika]

Do you know what an 8 Trigrams can do? If it was able to seal something as big as Kurama and trigrams is a combination of 2 4 trigrams. Now, research what a 4 trigrams can do. If he was able to seal Minato and Kushina's chakra, what made you think he can't do it with other shinobi.

You have still failed to show me where it says the Trigram Seal can seal enemies chakra. That is just your assumption, not a fact.

Furthermore, you don't seem to understand how it works. Minato was only able to use the Eight Trigram Seal to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto, while the Kyuubi was held down by Kushina's chains.

How will Minato hold down an enemy? And what will he seal the enemy inside?

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Okay. Glad that you ask. It's not irrelevant. If Minato can make a barrier then he can do other techs inside the barrier as shown in my scan. The purpose of including the Kunai is for the reason of the S/T barrier. If you believe that the Kunai plays no role of it then it's much better since we know what his S/T barrier can do and if you agree that the kunai plays a major role then we can both agree that Minato can create a normal barrier. Supported with the scan above, he can. Either way, it's a WIN/WIN situation for Minato.

The purpose of the BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS is for enemies who can do both Genjutsu and Amaterasu. Trolls always say Tsukuyomi one shot Minato and if you don't look into the eyes then you can't escape Amaterasu. Now, a perpect solution for Minato since Tsukuyomi is a short range and 8 trigrams is also a short range. Sealing enemy chakra with the barrier put up is one heck of a combo. No more eye contact..No amaterasu...right? Since this is provided with such evidence that Minato can create a barrier and can seal chakra, I wonder how trolls will counter it...

When has it been shown that eight trigrams seal can seal a normal person's chakra? It has been shown to seal a Bijuu inside off another person. Even if he knows a jutsu that seals a person's chakra, how is he going to attack his target with it while behind a barrier? It is similar to a wall. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out unless that something breaks through or is etheral like RDS. If this is to counter Ama, there are two possibilities. Ama doesn't travel. It appears on the point of focus of the user. So one is that Ama would just appear on Minato despite the relatively invisible barrier. Two is that the barrier is like a window. So the light being focused by the eye could be from the window and not the actual target. I personally think it is two. Despite that I think that Tsuku would still work and Ama would burn through the barrier rather quickly eventually.

 

[ajpn920]

You have still failed to show me where it says the Trigram Seal can seal enemies chakra. That is just your assumption, not a fact.

Furthermore, you don't seem to understand how it works. Minato was only able to use the Eight Trigram Seal to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto, while the Kyuubi was held down by Kushina's chains.

How will Minato hold down an enemy? And what will he seal the enemy inside?

Do you know that 8 trigrams is just a combination of 2 4 symbols. The reason why it was combined is for naruto to have access on kurama's chakra.

Four symbols seal- The sealing formula is used to seal any targetinto a human body or an object, and is mainly used when a giant enemy or evil spirit needs to be sealed away.

Now, how did Minato seal his chakra and Kushina's chakra? Care to explain this one?

When has it been shown that eight trigrams seal can seal a normal person's chakra? It has been shown to seal a Bijuu inside off another person. Even if he knows a jutsu that seals a person's chakra, how is he going to attack his target with it while behind a barrier? It is similar to a wall. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out unless that something breaks through or is etheral like RDS. If this is to counter Ama, there are two possibilities. Ama doesn't travel. It appears on the point of focus of the user. So one is that Ama would just appear on Minato despite the relatively invisible barrier. Two is that the barrier is like a window. So the light being focused by the eye could be from the window and not the actual target. I personally think it is two. Despite that I think that Tsuku would still work and Ama would burn through the barrier rather quickly eventually.

How did Minato seal his chakra and Kushina's chakra? Maybe you know something I don't. By the way, I don't think Ama can burn a barrier right away. Sasuke's Ama was not able to burn the armored samurai right away if i'm not mistaken

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[iSpeak]

Yawn, so I guess when I see someone weave hand signs, and then put a seal on the ground for a summoning the seal isn't needed either? They just do that for fun? The hand signs are simply there to build up and control the chakra needed for the jutsu...

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This is basic stuff ajp how can you not understand this?
The seal on the Kunai is what is needed to actually create the barrier. Get it now? So yes, the kunai with the marking is necessary to create the barrier and no, Minato cant create that barrier without the marking. Simple.