Uncovering the truth about space time barrier opens new possibilities

[ajpn920]

Hey guys. There are members of the base who believe that the kunai Minato was holding is the key factor of the space time barrier. Let's examine this step by step to see how Minato was able to create the space time barrier.

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First of, before the barrier was activated Minato performed hand seals as shown

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Now, after seeing this hand seals being performed, if I'll ask everybody with the question, "what is the handseal for?" then all of us will agree that the handseal was for making a "BARRIER"

So, what's really the use of the kunai shown here:

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Let's ask a question again. If the kunai has something to do with the space time barrier, then what exactly is it? How special is that kunai?

We know what the kunai can do and what made it special is the FTG seal. Without the FTG seal then it's just an ordinary kunai.

Now, we can all agree that it is not the kunai that has something to do with the space time barrier but rather the FTG mark on the kunai. If Minato is holding a sword with the FTG seal or a rock with the FTG seal then he still will be able to create the space time barrier, right?

Let's try to make an equation about this technique. Let's say HAND SEALS + FTG MARK = SPACE TIME BARRIER

now, let's simplify that equation or break it....

FTG MARK = SPACE TIME TECHNIQUE
HAND SEALS = BARRIER

Combining both of them we arrive at our equation HAND SEALS + FTG MARK = SPACE TIME BARRIER

This is now very clear that the handseals Minato performed was to create a barrier and the reason why he uses the kunai was to combine the FTG seal with the barrier to make a space time barrier...

If the kunai has of no significance, then we can say that after making handseals, Minato can turn his back on the attack since the barrier is already activated but that's not the case and we saw him holding the kunai blocking the attack.

We can now conclude that by performing those handseals alone, Minato can create a BARRIER and this statment can be supported by this:

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Upon knowing that he can create an ordinary barrier (not a S/T barrier) it will open a new possibilities of what he can really come up with. Seeing that Jiraiya was able to move or perform something after making a barrier as shown here

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and Kushina can move after creating a barrier as shown here

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it's safe to say that Minato can move freely after the barrier is being put up.

Now, what are those possibities that he can come up with? A simply deadly combo

1. BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS SEALS - Minato can create an ordinary barrier and then perform 8 trigrams to seal enemies chakra.

2. BARRIER + GAMARINSHO - We all know that a contract with the toad is A CONTRACT WITH ALL TOADS as shown here

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. Minato can summon Ma and Pa which can perform the Gamarinsho

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Thanks for reading...:scorps:

P.S. To everyone who might not get the point and will argue without sense, this is a WIN/WIN situation for Minato. Agreeing that the Kunai plays a role in the S/T barrier means agreeing that Minato can create a normal Barrier with those seals. If it's the opposite then much better since we can all agree that Minato can create a S/T barrier without the kunai..

 

[SilverDuck]

No, you're over thinking it. To the point that you're making incredibly forced, unlogical leaps in rationality. Why would we believe it is any different than how it has already been explained by the one person who matters; Kishimoto? Until he says anything to the contrary, I see absolutely no reason to think otherwise.

 

[FireBird Marco]

the chakra seals on the kunai have nothing to do with ST, Minato can use ST without the seals. The seals are just meant for direction points.
It's like when you send a wireless signal, you need a receiver to receive that signal or it's lost for ever!

 

[Crow.]

I don't know if it's just me, but none of the links work...

 

[ajpn920]

Read carefully. So, If the kunai is of no significance then after making the handseal we can conclude that the space time barrier is activated which we can say a WOW..that's great...no need to hold the kunai. In either way, it still can open new possibilities.

I don't know if it's just me, but none of the links work...

Sorry bro, Fixed it already

 

[AlphaScythian]

Uncovering bullshit more likely

 

[ajpn920]

No, you're over thinking it. To the point that you're making incredibly forced, unlogical leaps in rationality. Why would we believe it is any different than how it has already been explained by the one person who matters; Kishimoto? Until he says anything to the contrary, I see absolutely no reason to think otherwise.

By definition you mean what? Canyou give me the exact definition of what you're saying? Space time barrier is defined but was not explained.

Uncovering bullshit more likely

it's a bullshit for someone who can't think..too bad you are born that way..:stfu:

 

[SebastionM]

Link's still not working.. Waste of time.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Ok so i attack u with pretty big fireball.
Show me how ur idea works here?

 

[ajpn920]

Ok so i attack u with pretty big fireball.
Show me how ur idea works here?

Huh?? You still can't get it...Wow. The main idea is Minato can create a Barrier with those seals alone. By the way, how big is that fireball? Bigger that the full TBB?lol

Link's still not working.. Waste of time.

it should work..try to refresh your browser.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Fireball is big enough for any1 to dodge it, and minato is protecting some fodder kids behind him.
Go on. Give some sense to ur claims.

 

[ajpn920]

Fireball is big enough for any1 to dodge it, and minato is protecting some fodder kids behind him.
Go on. Give some sense to ur claims.

Okay then. this should be enough.

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Look at the size of the barrier. Do you think it can't protect several kids? By the way, how is this related to the topic? Can you explain it at least?

 

[AlphaScythian]

1. BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS SEALS - Minato can create an ordinary barrier and then perform 8 trigrams to seal enemies chakra.
This explain me this.

Other then this we knew everything else.
Its irrelevant if barrier has to do much with kunais or not.

 

[ajpn920]

1. BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS SEALS - Minato can create an ordinary barrier and then perform 8 trigrams to seal enemies chakra.
This explain me this.

Other then this we knew everything else.
Its irrelevant if barrier has to much with kunais or not.

Okay. Glad that you ask. It's not irrelevant. If Minato can make a barrier then he can do other techs inside the barrier as shown in my scan. The purpose of including the Kunai is for the reason of the S/T barrier. If you believe that the Kunai plays no role of it then it's much better since we know what his S/T barrier can do and if you agree that the kunai plays a major role then we can both agree that Minato can create a normal barrier. Supported with the scan above, he can. Either way, it's a WIN/WIN situation for Minato.

The purpose of the BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS is for enemies who can do both Genjutsu and Amaterasu. Trolls always say Tsukuyomi one shot Minato and if you don't look into the eyes then you can't escape Amaterasu. Now, a perpect solution for Minato since Tsukuyomi is a short range and 8 trigrams is also a short range. Sealing enemy chakra with the barrier put up is one heck of a combo. No more eye contact..No amaterasu...right? Since this is provided with such evidence that Minato can create a barrier and can seal chakra, I wonder how trolls will counter it...

 

[TrollingSage]

This is pretty well known. He was planning on putting up a barrier and sealing Kurama afterwards. That at the very least means he knows a barrier tech that allows him to use other jutsus whilst its up.

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[Zebstrika]

Show me where it says the Eight Trigram seals "enemies chakra".

I don't even think you understand what that seal is for, educate yourself:

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[ajpn920]

This is pretty well known. He was planning on putting up a barrier and sealing Kurama afterwards. That at the very least means he knows a barrier tech that allows to use other jutsus whilst its up.

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True. However, there are others who claim he can't and there are those who believes that the Kunai plays a major role in the S/T barrier. The only solution to make them agree is to put them in a situation where they can't disagree, right?haha

That at the very least means he knows a barrier tech that allows to use other jutsus whilst its up.

By the way, with the quote above, do you think BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS is effective? You agree that Minato can use other jutsu while the barrier is up.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Okay. Glad that you ask. It's not irrelevant. If Minato can make a barrier then he can do other techs inside the barrier as shown in my scan. The purpose of including the Kunai is for the reason of the S/T barrier. If you believe that the Kunai plays no role of it then it's much better since we know what his S/T barrier can do and if you agree that the kunai plays a major role then we can both agree that Minato can create a normal barrier. Supported with the scan above, he can. Either way, it's a WIN/WIN situation for Minato.

The barrier if not linked to that particular kunai is linked to all others and all tags minato have anywhere. While using barrier u cant do anything else, minato must stay concentrated to teleport desired object away. The barrier is no different then summoning technique, u cant put it on hold. Minato placed barrier right b4 impact, and later he had to spend time to teleport it away. It doesnt work on his own.

The purpose of the BARRIER + 8 TRIGRAMS is for enemies who can do both Genjutsu and Amaterasu. Trolls always say Tsukuyomi one shot Minato and if you don't look into the eyes then you can't escape Amaterasu. Now, a perpect solution for Minato since Tsukuyomi is a short range and 8 trigrams is also a short range. Sealing enemy chakra with the barrier put up is one heck of a combo. No more eye contact..No amaterasu...right? Since this is provided with such evidence that Minato can create a barrier and can seal chakra, I wonder how trolls will counter it...

Minato has no info on amaterasu or tsukuyomi. Minato cant tell if amaterasu or tsukuyomi is used if he doesnt make eye contact.
If he does make contact, then he cant make hand signs in time as tsukuyomi is instant.

 

[ajpn920]

Show me where it says the Eight Trigram seals "enemies chakra".

I don't even think you understand what that seal is for, educate yourself:

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Do you know what an 8 Trigrams can do? It is a combination of 2 four trigrams seal. Now, research on what a 4 trigrams can do. If he was able to seal his chakra and Kushina's chakra, not to mention kurama's chakra what made you think he can't do it with other shinobi.

The barrier if not linked to that particular kunai is linked to all others and all tags minato have anywhere. While using barrier u cant do anything else, minato must stay concentrated to teleport desired object away. The barrier is no different then summoning technique, u cant put it on hold. Minato placed barrier right b4 impact, and later he had to spend time to teleport it away. It doesnt work on his own.

Minato has no info on amaterasu or tsukuyomi. Minato cant tell if amaterasu or tsukuyomi is used if he doesnt make eye contact.
If he does make contact, then he cant make hand signs in time as tsukuyomi is instant.

Did you read the thread well? Explain this?

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Jiraiya was able to move after creating a barrier. Kushina as well. Read my thread again. Well, tsukuyomi is not a tech created by Itachi, it is given by the sharingan so it's possible that Hokages which have the access to the secret scroll knows about that while 8 trigrams is purely Minato's tech so it is unknown to many.

Since the barrier is up, no need to worry Amaterasu and since he knew what an Uchiha can do, then it's self explanatory of what he will do. Now, how can Itachi stop Minato from sealing his chakra..any ideas?

 

[AlphaScythian]

What jiraya did isnt S/T barrier. For instance if kakashi has minato's kunai, why wont he teleport to another?