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Objective:
I believe Hashirama is drasitcally underrated in terms of the prowess he possessed. Though noone talks about him in anything else but Mokuton or Sage Mode. However those are not the only things that made him the "ULTIMATE" Shinobi.
People claim that Madara Uchiha was close to his levell or was equal to him. People are now claiming Nagato can take Hashirama on and even win. Or Dsm Kabuto can take on Hashirama and win. However, all of these are false. Simply because they are close to Hashirama's prowess.
The key is to understand why Hashirama is the epitome of a Shinobi warrior. (Yes I know Rikudou and Obito are stronger, that does not make them the ultimate warriors.)
This thread will focus on the things why Hashirama was called the "Ultimate Shinobi". It wasn't due to a single aspect like Mokuton, it was because he was all around the greatest, and noone has been like him, even Rikudou and Obito.
Ninjutsu:
As we already know Hashirama was skilled in various ninjutsu skills, that ranged from simple clones to towering above the Tailed Beasts.
Mokuton:
Easily the second strongest KKG in the series, after the Eyes of God. This KKG enables Hashirama to easily put down Tailed beasts. And also make clones and other structures from Mokuton.
Some of the Vast Techniques that Hashirama possessed:
This clone technique is the ULTIMATE clone technique. Why? Because not only are the wood clones close to a living person itself, but the difference between the wood clone and normal body can only be told by, someone with a EMS. Also, the Wood clones can submerge with the trees and surroundings, making them very good for spying. Not to mention they are physically stronger then other clones.
Hotei no jutsu: "Laughing buddha Jutsu", is basically where Hashirama makes hands thats are near Kyuubi sized appear out of the ground. With this is has the power to stop the swords of Perfect Susanoo and Hold a bijuu.
Hobi No jutsu : The user creates a dome-like defensive structure that completely surrounds which takes the form of a Shinigam's/Demon's face. This defence is split down the middle and can be opened on the user's command. It can tank a 9-tails Bijuu bomb.
Other Techniques of Mokuton:
- 1k Hand buddha (requires Sage Mode)
- Wood Dragon - Able to bind the kyuubi
- Wood Human - able to capture a bijuu bomb and use it right back.
- Gates of the Great God - Able to supress the juubi in its second form ( Requires Sage Mode)
Sensor:
Though his brother is the better sensor. Hashirama has proven to be the keen one in sensing. For example, he was the first one to sense Orochimaru was made of his cells. In the flahsbacks he was able to sense Madara there, while Tobirama was not able to.
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Sage Mode:
Hashirama so far has shown the best control of Sage Mode. Unlike Naruto Hashirama doesn't need long time to focus, and on top of that his duration in Sage mode is shown to be VERY high.
We all know Sage Mode increases ones Natural abilities like: Speed, Strength, Reaction timing, and sensing abilities.
Elements:
He has 2 other elements besides Mokuton under his control. The elements of Earth and Water. Thus the combination of 2 makes Mokuton. Though we have seen no jutsus from Hashirama that use Suiton or Doton, but it is assumed he is capable of using them, since Yamato was. And his brother is also a very good Suiton user.
Medical ninjutsu:
Hashirama's medical techniques have been stated to be superior to Tsunade's, according to Tsunade herself. Also, Madara stated that Hashirama was also able to regenerate like Tsunade. Though he cannot be called the best Medical ninja of the 2, due to the difference in knowledge and feats in it. But he is up there in the top 5 . When it comes to medical ninjutsu.
Genjutsu:
Bringer Of Darkness is the only Genjutsu he has shown, but that was also, when he was revived in his weakened state. And on top of that Bringer of Darkness is a A ranked technique, so it is not some small genjutsu. It is close to being a perfect counter for the Uchiha, who need to see their opponent to use the sharingan genjutsu upon them.
Kenjutsu:
Hashirama has shown very good skills with weapons, as he was able to go toe to toe with a other weapon user, who possessed the sharingan. He weilded a sword.
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Taijutsu:
His skill in Taijutsu has been very good ever since he was a kid. He has shown to be slightly above Madara when it came to it. And we all know how strong Madara is.
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Fuinjutsu:
Hashirama is the owner of the Scroll of Seals, which has many kinjutsu techniques sealed inside of it. Not to mention that Hashirama was also able to seal away Bijuus. And is known to possess many scroll:
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Chakra:
Hashirama senju has also, shown the strongest chakra of the series. And since he is the top of the Senju bloodline he possesses the highest chakra known, except that of a jinchuriki.
His chakra alone is enough to crack rooms made from stone, and overwhelm people.
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Conclusion:
Basically what i'm saying is Hashirama is the most elite shinobi in the manga. In terms of skills and being near perfect in every category. Thus why people called him the "Ultimate Shinobi" in the time of the Great Madara Uchiha, and Tobirama and many other elite ninja, like Sasuke Sarutobi.
So when people put kids like Nagato or anyone else not even strong enough to even fight against a PS + Kurama battle, to fight against Hashirama and say he can beat him.. its really annoying. Hence why I have always felt he is severely underrated for the prowess he has.
Questions and Answers:
Question: So hes stronger then Obito and RIkudou?
Answer: No way in hell is Hashirama stronger then them, just because they are stronger, doesn't mean they are perfect shinobi. It is the same concept of Omega Shenron being stronger then Goku.. but Goku being the better fighter.
Question: Is this a fanboyism thread?
Answer: no, if you believe so then your an idiot.
Question: So why isn't Nagato on his level? He has the rinnegan....
Answer: Considering people need to make up a imaganitory Nagato who didn't exist while he was alive, and then give him the feats of Edo Nagato..... I don't think that he can even be put in the same talk as Madara or Hashirama. On top of that he is nowhere near skilled as Hashirama....
Question: Why are you overrating him?
Answer: I am not overrating him, what I have stated/shown specifically in the manga.
Question: So Edo Madara > Hashirama
Answer: No, do you see me claiming Rock lee > Gaara.. even if Rock lee enter the 7th Gate, it would be illogical of me to even assume that Rock lee > Gaara, without the other saying or telling he is stronger then the other. By the logic of Edo Madara supporters, Madara should be stronger then Rikudou also. And Obito. But are they? no. Personally Edo Madara = Hashirama at the best, unless we see Hashirama getting his ass kicked, which would be a very large probability.
Answer: No way in hell is Hashirama stronger then them, just because they are stronger, doesn't mean they are perfect shinobi. It is the same concept of Omega Shenron being stronger then Goku.. but Goku being the better fighter.
Question: Is this a fanboyism thread?
Answer: no, if you believe so then your an idiot.
Question: So why isn't Nagato on his level? He has the rinnegan....
Answer: Considering people need to make up a imaganitory Nagato who didn't exist while he was alive, and then give him the feats of Edo Nagato..... I don't think that he can even be put in the same talk as Madara or Hashirama. On top of that he is nowhere near skilled as Hashirama....
Question: Why are you overrating him?
Answer: I am not overrating him, what I have stated/shown specifically in the manga.
Question: So Edo Madara > Hashirama
Answer: No, do you see me claiming Rock lee > Gaara.. even if Rock lee enter the 7th Gate, it would be illogical of me to even assume that Rock lee > Gaara, without the other saying or telling he is stronger then the other. By the logic of Edo Madara supporters, Madara should be stronger then Rikudou also. And Obito. But are they? no. Personally Edo Madara = Hashirama at the best, unless we see Hashirama getting his ass kicked, which would be a very large probability.
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