Ulquiorria and Halibel

[edo tensai wilmaso]

the favorite was stark but i think #4 espada i hate writing his name.well he is the strongest.

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

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u can see that aizen is recalling all the battles he planned for ichigo and u can see ulq. 2nd Resurrección . i just dont believe azien didn't know about his 2nd reseurreccion. Aizen who planned everything from the start. Who had as stated by gin everyone "ulq and all other espadas" under his illusion.

He himself has stated that there were 3 more espadas stronger then him....
plus like u said halibel didn't kill anyone but she also didn't get beat by anyone other then azien.... she was holding her ground against 1 capt. and 2 vizards.



ps. ulq. aspect is Nihilism=argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose or
meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that contrary to popular belief, some commonly perceived aspects of reality do not exist
and i'm pretty sure ulq told ichigo about the other 3 espadas right b4 he was going to kill him "stab him through the chest" so there was no need to lie to him..

Yea my error on his aspect, true hallibal held her ground but she still didn't do anything to them. Ulquiorria feats wise, would have at least killed one or more of them.

the favorite was stark but i think #4 espada i hate writing his name.well he is the strongest.

Yea I loved stark to, sad death but I don't put ulquiorria in front of him.

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

Ulquiorra's aspect of death is Emptiness, Nnoitra's aspect of death is Despair. Also he was not talking about Yammy, (Yammy the Cero (Zero) espada was weak). Ulquiorra, lost to a man that he killed, not once but twice in the same day, but still lost in the end run.

The Cero Espada Yammy Llargo, was weak as shit, he lost to two captain's who weren't even fighting him, but fighting each other

Ya my bad on his aspect. Yea yammy was weak, but the other guy is going by the rank system which I don't really like.

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

If you guys really believe that Halibell and them are stronger then Ulquiorra, then that means one of the two things:

1.) The captains who fought them are way more powerfull then Ichigo which made the fights seem less intense.

2.) The top 3 espada are rather stupid. If you had a power that can trample something like Ulquiorra's at his best, why would you not use it? I can understand the 2nd Espada since his abilities are OP as it is but hearing what you guys have to say piss me off about the other 2, regardless if they were fighting more then one person.

(I personally wouldn't take what Ulquiorra said as fact. I'm saying this because he never told or shown anyone else his second release state, so why would he give that information away by saying he's stronger then the other 3? Doesn't add up, especially when the other 3 never showed such skills as Ulquiorra in both power and AoE. [Well maybe except Stark and his spamming of Ceros])

 

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Ulquiorra

 

[KamuiShiryu]

Yea my error on his aspect, true hallibal held her ground but she still didn't do anything to them. Ulquiorria feats wise, would have at least killed one or more of them.



Yea I loved stark to, sad death but I don't put ulquiorria in front of him.

i call plot no jutsu on that ..... they set halibel against an ice type fighter she was the only one of the espadas at a disadvantage....

If you guys really believe that Halibell and them are stronger then Ulquiorra, then that means one of the two things:

1.) The captains who fought them are way more powerfull then Ichigo which made the fights seem less intense.

2.) The top 3 espada are rather stupid. If you had a power that can trample something like Ulquiorra's at his best, why would you not use it? I can understand the 2nd Espada since his abilities are OP as it is but hearing what you guys have to say piss me off about the other 2, regardless if they were fighting more then one person.

(I personally wouldn't take what Ulquiorra said as fact. I'm saying this because he never told or shown anyone else his second release state, so why would he give that information away by saying he's stronger then the other 3? Doesn't add up, especially when the other 3 never showed such skills as Ulquiorra in both power and AoE. [Well maybe except Stark and his spamming of Ceros])

look at the fight again dude... ichigo vs ulq. was always a onesided fight
ulq 1st resurrection made easy work of ichigo when he had his mask
then ichigo goes full hollow "berserk" and trashed ulquiorra

and if u look at the other 3 espadas they were also fighting off the captains with ease...
halibel got traped in the ice cause she just stood there thinking she could melt the ice flower with her Hirviendo =plot no jutsu
barragan was too cocky for his own good and ended up killing himself with his own power and he trashed soi fon
stark took out 2 vizards and a captain b4 being killed off "enough said" and lets not forget he fought what seems to be the two strongest captains

and if u ask me yes one captain and 2 vizards are way stronger then ichigo with just his mask i would think you'd agree with me here atleast....

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

i call plot no jutsu on that ..... they set halibel against an ice type fighter she was the only one of the espadas at a disadvantage....



look at the fight again dude... ichigo vs ulq. was always a onesided fight
ulq 1st resurrection made easy work of ichigo when he had his mask
then ichigo goes full hollow "berserk" and trashed ulquiorra

and if u look at the other 3 espadas they were also fighting off the captains with ease...
halibel got traped in the ice cause she just stood there thinking she could melt the ice flower with her Hirviendo =plot no jutsu
barragan was too cocky for his own good and ended up killing himself with his own power and he trashed soi fon
stark took out 2 vizards and a captain b4 being killed off "enough said" and lets not forget he fought what seems to be the two strongest captains

and if u ask me yes one captain and 2 vizards are way stronger then ichigo with just his mask i would think you'd agree with me here atleast....

Put ulquiorria in hallibal's situations and he at the least kills one of them... a.k.a hollow girl lol

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

i call plot no jutsu on that ..... they set halibel against an ice type fighter she was the only one of the espadas at a disadvantage....



look at the fight again dude... ichigo vs ulq. was always a onesided fight
ulq 1st resurrection made easy work of ichigo when he had his mask
then ichigo goes full hollow "berserk" and trashed ulquiorra

and if u look at the other 3 espadas they were also fighting off the captains with ease...
halibel got traped in the ice cause she just stood there thinking she could melt the ice flower with her Hirviendo =plot no jutsu
barragan was too cocky for his own good and ended up killing himself with his own power and he trashed soi fon
stark took out 2 vizards and a captain b4 being killed off "enough said" and lets not forget he fought what seems to be the two strongest captains

and if u ask me yes one captain and 2 vizards are way stronger then ichigo with just his mask i would think you'd agree with me here atleast....

Those one sided fights showed the sheer overwhelming power both Ulquiorra and Ichigo had when they went to their max power. Regardless of the three fighting off the captains with ease, none of them showed the destructive and spammable power Ulquiorra was stacking. (Except Stark I guess)

Plot I guess. Otherwise Espada 0 is stronger then all of them and none of us believe that crap.

 

[Shame]

So rank 0 is the strongest?

No because Yammy is all brawn and no brain as stated by ulquiorra which is why brute power Yammy is ranked 0 as in the most brute. But with no brain he is useless. Also he only has like three ability's so his strength is his biggest attribute.

 

[Zanji]

Put ulquiorria in hallibal's situations and he at the least kills one of them... a.k.a hollow girl lol

One We barely saw much of a fight between Tier Hallibel when she fought against Hitsugaya, Hiyori and Lisa. She left that fight to try and assist Aizen only to be cut down by him.

To be honest I doubt Ulquiorra would have been able to kill anyone of them in the 1 vs 3 battle, Yes his Lance was fast but the moment he would try to attack one of them, another would step in and do something. They have also had 100 years to perfect their abilities where Ichigo had what?.........6 months? and Still couldn't control it properly

Those one sided fights showed the sheer overwhelming power both Ulquiorra and Ichigo had when they went to their max power. Regardless of the three fighting off the captains with ease, none of them showed the destructive and spammable power Ulquiorra was stacking. (Except Stark I guess)

Plot I guess. Otherwise Espada 0 is stronger then all of them and none of us believe that crap.

Really? None of them showed the destructive and spammable power Ulquiorra was Stacking (except Starrk yet you still guess?) Alright time to school ya in their abilities rookie.....

Ulquiorra Cifer - Cero (Green energy blast fired from his finger tip), Luz de la Luna (green energy javelins), Cero Oscuras (The most powerful Cero, a Cero that is only usable by the Espada (as said so by himself) his version is pitch black with a green aura around it), Latigo (his tail), Lanza del Relámpago (a bright green javelin-like energy lance that is very destructive, and very fast)

Tier Hallibel - Cero (Yellow blast with wide blast radius), Ola Azul (Yellow energy projectile of her blade), Water Manipulation (simply put), Trident (A technique that causes her sword to glow with spiritual energy and then allows Harribel to fire a high-force mist from her sword in a series of three shots. Upon contact, it can cause severe damage, capable of cutting an opponent in half with ease), Hirviendo (points her blade out and instantly boils any form of water that comes close to it, including ice, and deflects it around her), Lo Gota (condense large amounts of water around her blade before firing it as a blast that resembles a shark tooth. She has also demonstrated the ability to fire multiple blasts in rapid succession with relative ease. The blasts strike with enough force to demolish houses), and Cascada (rushing surge of water at her enemy. The torrent of high pressure water is large enough to cover several town blocks)

Barragan Louisenbairn - Respira (rapidly ages/decays whatever it touches (generally released as a smog cloud), and Gran Caida (Axe of Ruin, not much else is known about it)

Coyote Starrk - Cero (Blue energy blast fired from any point of his body without the need of a pose a trait not shown by any other Espada), Cero Metralleta (Uses his pistols to unleash a powerful barrage of Ceros simultaneously that, because of their density and grouping, can appear to fuse together into one large Cero blast. He is able to change the direction of this attack during firing, making it extremely difficult to avoid), Wolves (released from the belts coming from his back to his arms, these wolves explode one whatever they bite, multiply when hit, Starrk is also capable of splitting his soul with the wolves), Comillo (The Blue energy swords that are created from his belts)

So the most destructive by anymeans is Starrk, as well as Ulquiorra falling into 3rd place destructive wise

 

[Souji]

I personally think they're equal. Their ranks are interchangeable depending on the situation.

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

No because Yammy is all brawn and no brain as stated by ulquiorra which is why brute power Yammy is ranked 0 as in the most brute. But with no brain he is useless. Also he only has like three ability's so his strength is his biggest attribute.

Exactly, that is why I don't go by rank...

One We barely saw much of a fight between Tier Hallibel when she fought against Hitsugaya, Hiyori and Lisa. She left that fight to try and assist Aizen only to be cut down by him.

To be honest I doubt Ulquiorra would have been able to kill anyone of them in the 1 vs 3 battle, Yes his Lance was fast but the moment he would try to attack one of them, another would step in and do something. They have also had 100 years to perfect their abilities where Ichigo had what?.........6 months? and Still couldn't control it properly


Really? None of them showed the destructive and spammable power Ulquiorra was Stacking (except Starrk yet you still guess?) Alright time to school ya in their abilities rookie.....

Ulquiorra Cifer - Cero (Green energy blast fired from his finger tip), Luz de la Luna (green energy javelins), Cero Oscuras (The most powerful Cero, a Cero that is only usable by the Espada (as said so by himself) his version is pitch black with a green aura around it), Latigo (his tail), Lanza del Relámpago (a bright green javelin-like energy lance that is very destructive, and very fast)

Tier Hallibel - Cero (Yellow blast with wide blast radius), Ola Azul (Yellow energy projectile of her blade), Water Manipulation (simply put), Trident (A technique that causes her sword to glow with spiritual energy and then allows Harribel to fire a high-force mist from her sword in a series of three shots. Upon contact, it can cause severe damage, capable of cutting an opponent in half with ease), Hirviendo (points her blade out and instantly boils any form of water that comes close to it, including ice, and deflects it around her), Lo Gota (condense large amounts of water around her blade before firing it as a blast that resembles a shark tooth. She has also demonstrated the ability to fire multiple blasts in rapid succession with relative ease. The blasts strike with enough force to demolish houses), and Cascada (rushing surge of water at her enemy. The torrent of high pressure water is large enough to cover several town blocks)

Barragan Louisenbairn - Respira (rapidly ages/decays whatever it touches (generally released as a smog cloud), and Gran Caida (Axe of Ruin, not much else is known about it)

Coyote Starrk - Cero (Blue energy blast fired from any point of his body without the need of a pose a trait not shown by any other Espada), Cero Metralleta (Uses his pistols to unleash a powerful barrage of Ceros simultaneously that, because of their density and grouping, can appear to fuse together into one large Cero blast. He is able to change the direction of this attack during firing, making it extremely difficult to avoid), Wolves (released from the belts coming from his back to his arms, these wolves explode one whatever they bite, multiply when hit, Starrk is also capable of splitting his soul with the wolves), Comillo (The Blue energy swords that are created from his belts)

So the most destructive by anymeans is Starrk, as well as Ulquiorra falling into 3rd place destructive wise

Cool story bro? We read the manga, we watched the episodes obviously Stark is in 1st and Ulquiorria is in 2nd when it comes to power... 100 years of perfecting their power? Ichigo would beat down the hollow girl.... come on now...

 

[Zanji]

Exactly, that is why I don't go by rank...


Cool story bro? We read the manga, we watched the episodes obviously Stark is in 1st and Ulquiorria is in 2nd when it comes to power... 100 years of perfecting their power? Ichigo would beat down the hollow girl.... come on now...

Rookie tell me How in detail, Does Ulquiorra out rank Hallibel in terms of power? Even though Ulquiorra was the only one shown to use Cero Oscuras, he stated that every Espada can use that technique, as can every espada use Gran Rey Cero as well. So tell me how exactly Ulquiorra is better in terms of power. He himself knew that he had the Segunda Etapa power, but still stated that 3 were stronger than he was, those being the top 3.

Aizen knew of his power despite Ulquiorra not knowing he did, and yet still took Tier Hallibel, Barragan Louisenbairn, and Coyote Starrk with him along with their Fraccion (except Starrk's due to him not having a Fraccion)

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

Rookie tell me How in detail, Does Ulquiorra out rank Hallibel in terms of power? Even though Ulquiorra was the only one shown to use Cero Oscuras, he stated that every Espada can use that technique, as can every espada use Gran Rey Cero as well. So tell me how exactly Ulquiorra is better in terms of power. He himself knew that he had the Segunda Etapa power, but still stated that 3 were stronger than he was, those being the top 3.

Aizen knew of his power despite Ulquiorra not knowing he did, and yet still took Tier Hallibel, Barragan Louisenbairn, and Coyote Starrk with him along with their Fraccion (except Starrk's due to him not having a Fraccion)

First of all he is highly intelligent as aizen referred to in the manga. He has two resurrections hmmmm.... the only one to have a second resurrection I wonder why..... His Luz de la Luna (green javelins) and Lanza del Relampago is way better than what Hallibal has to offer, if you read/watched bleach. I don't see how Hallibal could defeat him with his high speed regeneration. Even though he had high speed regeneration he was also really fast that at one point he charged straight at ichigo and then appeared to the side of him while grabbing his head....

The point is that if Ulquiorria was in Hallibals position against the 3 decent opponets she was fighting... he would have done a better job than Hallibal.

 

[Zanji]

First of all he is highly intelligent as aizen referred to in the manga. He has two resurrections hmmmm.... the only one to have a second resurrection I wonder why..... His Luz de la Luna (green javelins) and Lanza del Relampago is way better than what Hallibal has to offer, if you read/watched bleach. I don't see how Hallibal could defeat him with his high speed regeneration. Even though he had high speed regeneration he was also really fast that at one point he charged straight at ichigo and then appeared to the side of him while grabbing his head....

The point is that if Ulquiorria was in Hallibals position against the 3 decent opponets she was fighting... he would have done a better job than Hallibal.

One his High Speed Regeneration ended up working against him, why? Because he was unable to regenerate internal organs, such as his brain, lungs, stomach, liver, etc. As well as taking up decent amounts of spiritual energy in the process. His Lanza del Relampago was easily avoided, he needs his opponent to remain in the same place to actually hit them, also easily countered against. As shown when Ichigo went total hollow, Ulquiorra was unable to keep up with his Sonido (Not Flash Step that the Shinigami use). His Luz de la Luna, his primary weapon in fighting wouldn't be able to necessarily be effective against any of the top three.

Also the intelligence that he had was in fact very high, Hallibel herself is highly perceptive as well (both not as good as Starrk in the perceptive aspect)

But none the less this arguing is pointless in the long run because to each their own, I will always think that Ulquiorra pales in comparison to the Top 3

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

One his High Speed Regeneration ended up working against him, why? Because he was unable to regenerate internal organs, such as his brain, lungs, stomach, liver, etc. As well as taking up decent amounts of spiritual energy in the process. His Lanza del Relampago was easily avoided, he needs his opponent to remain in the same place to actually hit them, also easily countered against. As shown when Ichigo went total hollow, Ulquiorra was unable to keep up with his Sonido (Not Flash Step that the Shinigami use). His Luz de la Luna, his primary weapon in fighting wouldn't be able to necessarily be effective against any of the top three.

Also the intelligence that he had was in fact very high, Hallibel herself is highly perceptive as well (both not as good as Starrk in the perceptive aspect)

But none the less this arguing is pointless in the long run because to each their own, I will always think that Ulquiorra pales in comparison to the Top 3

I wouldn't compare Hallibal to Ichigo full hollow, I don't think she would be able to demolish Ulquiorrias organs like Ichigo did lol. The lanza also has a explosion that could affect the person targeted at. True you have your opinion I have mine, Ulquiorra would actually do something to 3 fodder (exaggerating a bit) opponets.

 

[NLee]

Cool story bro? We read the manga, we watched the episodes obviously Stark is in 1st and Ulquiorria is in 2nd when it comes to power... 100 years of perfecting their power? Ichigo would beat down the hollow girl.... come on now...

You are a genuine moron. That was a grade-A post by Zanji and all you have to say is "cool story bro"? You're pathetic.


It is a fact that every single Vizard has had over 100 years to perfect their abilities. Not to mention the fact that they were all Lieutenants and Captains OVER 100 YEARS AGO. Not even Byakuya has been a Captain that long. To make it even worse, they have Hollow powers which makes them even that much stronger.

Through sheer common sense it can be drawn that they are all vastly powerful. Even the ex-Lieutenant Vizards like Lisa, Hyori, and Mashiro can easily be considered a Captain-class fighter even with their eyes closed. You're just too dumb to understand 1+1 logic.


You can't bring yourself to understand how well the Top 3 Espadas fought which, in turn, shows how powerful they were:
-Halibel vs Hitsugaya, Hyori, and Lisa
-Barragan vs Soi Fong, and Hachi
-Stark vs Kyoraku, Rose, and Love

Ulquiorra would not last in any of these match-ups. Like I said before, the lowest of the Top 3, Halibel, is stronger than Ulquiorra. If I wanted to give Ulquiorra the benefit of the doubt then I may give it to him with Segunda Etapa but that's as far as it goes.



And no, Ichigo only got the upper hand on Hyori in their sparring session because Hyori was toying with Ichigo and was caught totally off guard by his Hollow. If she wanted to kill him then she could have. Easily.

 

[KamuiShiryu]

o.o can i just add that if halibels cascada were to hit ulq. it would destroy his body due to the high pressure... i dont want to post examples cus i'm about to pass out but i can if you'd like tomorrow.. and i wouldn't compare Hyori to a captain like kyoraku but she was able to hold off mini berserk hollow ichigo when they were training him. and same with lisa.. and most people dont understand how hard it is to fight 1 on 3 especially when one of the guys your fighting is able to turn all ur attacks to ice due to his type... :crazy:

:T_T:plot no jutsu!!!!!:T_T:

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

You are a genuine moron. That was a grade-A post by Zanji and all you have to say is "cool story bro"? You're pathetic.


It is a fact that every single Vizard has had over 100 years to perfect their abilities. Not to mention the fact that they were all Lieutenants and Captains OVER 100 YEARS AGO. Not even Byakuya has been a Captain that long. To make it even worse, they have Hollow powers which makes them even that much stronger.

Through sheer common sense it can be drawn that they are all vastly powerful. Even the ex-Lieutenant Vizards like Lisa, Hyori, and Mashiro can easily be considered a Captain-class fighter even with their eyes closed. You're just too dumb to understand 1+1 logic.


You can't bring yourself to understand how well the Top 3 Espadas fought which, in turn, shows how powerful they were:
-Halibel vs Hitsugaya, Hyori, and Lisa
-Barragan vs Soi Fong, and Hachi
-Stark vs Kyoraku, Rose, and Love

Ulquiorra would not last in any of these match-ups. Like I said before, the lowest of the Top 3, Halibel, is stronger than Ulquiorra. If I wanted to give Ulquiorra the benefit of the doubt then I may give it to him with Segunda Etapa but that's as far as it goes.



And no, Ichigo only got the upper hand on Hyori in their sparring session because Hyori was toying with Ichigo and was caught totally off guard by his Hollow. If she wanted to kill him then she could have. Easily.

Read your other post... you said Ulquiorria was stronger in segunda etapa.... so make up your mind...

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

@Zanji. Your right, to each his own and as far as Im concerned, did the other three have 2nd release forms? No? It's obvious each release gives you an insane power boost but you think Ulquiorra was that far from the top 3 (Besides Stark I guess) that he wouldn't trump them with another release?

Of course I beleive the other three are stronger until Ulquiorra releases that second state then it's him. He fodderized Ichigo who is easily in the same tier as atleast Hitsugaya, who in which was able to fight Halibel who no matter what way you look at it, was super effective against him. This move (Lanza del Relámpago) is easily spammable as shown by how effortlessly Ulquiorra can make them. I just don't see where Halibell showed that type of destruction. I'll agree on Stark I guess, but Halibel? No way.