[Discussion] Ulquiorra Cifer vs Urahara

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Lol what? By what we seen so far urahara is stronger lol he only fought weak opponents only strong guy he fought was aizen an got wasted we seen half his power already now we are just waiting on the other half witch is his bankai..so what you saying? We only seen the tip lol you think he god I guess cuz his bankai has not been shown yet..from what we seen so far Lanza is hands down stronger than anything Urahara has used an his first release would put shikai urahara to shame physically.

Yeah I clearly think he's god that's why I agreed that he could be overpowered by the right opponent, I just disagree that #4 Espada Ulq. is that guy. Good thing you're not one of those guys that take arguments to the extreme aspect every time, oh wait....
Those Kido restraints he used on Aizen would hold Ulq. resurrecion or not or are you trying to say Resurrecion Ulq is stronger than Aizen cus I know you ain't tryna say that. Aizen wouldn't make a subordinate stronger than himself and definitely not the number 4 seed.
He created the Hogyoku and all kinds of Gigai, so if you think he doesn't have more tech tricks up his sleeve you're crazy.
He also fought Hog. Aizen without using his shikai in 3 different forms. Without Res. Ulq. wouldn't handle first stage Hog. Aizen if he could manage Soul Reaper Aizen.
As far as opponents go Ulq. only fought Ichigo and Urahara has beaten Ichigo. (even if it was an early Ichigo, I had to give you one point to counter)
 
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He can also fight with it like a sword as well will urahara sword be able to handle it power? I kno his shikai won't

you know it, you know it for a fact? cuss you're Kubo or something? Do you write Kubo and tell him what the power levels are supposed to be? Kisuke's Zanpakuto blade stood up to attacks from Aizen which are way stronger than Ulq.'s attacks. You don't know what his stuff can endure as you said yourself he's fought "weak" opponents. If he fought weak opponents than his weapon hasn't really been stress tested has it? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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Yeah I clearly think he's god that's why I agreed that he could be overpowered by the right opponent, I just disagree that #5 Espada Ulq. is that guy. Good thing you're not one of those guys that take arguments to the extreme aspect every time, oh wait....
Those Kido restraints he used on Aizen would hold Ulq. resurrecion or not or are you trying to say Resurrecion Ulq is stronger than Aizen cus I know you ain't tryna say that. Aizen wouldn't make a subordinate stronger than himself and definitely not the number 5 seed.
He created the Hogyoku and all kinds of Gigai, so if you think he doesn't have more tech tricks up his sleeve you're crazy.
He also fought Hog. Aizen without using his shikai in 3 different forms. Without Res. Ulq. wouldn't handle first stage Hog. Aizen if he could manage Soul Reaper Aizen.
As far as opponents go Ulq. only fought Ichigo and Urahara has beaten Ichigo. (even if it was an early Ichigo, I had to give you one point to counter)

He's no. 4. :|
 

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I don't think this is a fair match until we see Urahara's Bankai.

We can't access Urahara's full strength in this fight yet
 

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Yeah I clearly think he's god that's why I agreed that he could be overpowered by the right opponent, I just disagree that #4 Espada Ulq. is that guy. Good thing you're not one of those guys that take arguments to the extreme aspect every time, oh wait....
Those Kido restraints he used on Aizen would hold Ulq. resurrecion or not or are you trying to say Resurrecion Ulq is stronger than Aizen cus I know you ain't tryna say that. Aizen wouldn't make a subordinate stronger than himself and definitely not the number 4 seed.
He created the Hogyoku and all kinds of Gigai, so if you think he doesn't have more tech tricks up his sleeve you're crazy.
He also fought Hog. Aizen without using his shikai in 3 different forms. Without Res. Ulq. wouldn't handle first stage Hog. Aizen if he could manage Soul Reaper Aizen.
As far as opponents go Ulq. only fought Ichigo and Urahara has beaten Ichigo. (even if it was an early Ichigo, I had to give you one point to counter)

I don't take these arguments to heart I just say what I have to say..first off those restraints are for shinigami as Urahara said those cuffs are for the reiatsu vents witch are located in the wrists of all shinigami an last I checked ulquiorra is not a shinigami...no I'm not saying ulquiorra is stronger than aizen cuz I kno he's not i was just saying that's the only strong person urahara has fought...I kno what he created an ulquiorra knos about urahara so he will fight smart an most likely keep his distance somewhat..urahara fought who aizen well um like I said befor aizen was not fighting serious he let urahara land all of thoes attacks so um yea...

Yea urahara beat ichigo in shikai mode an did you forget ulquiorra an ichigo fist real battle he killed ichigo off like he was nonthing an that was bankai hollowfied ichigo...one more thing when ichigo first did getsuga tensho on urahara, urahara had to use his shikai to block it while ulquiorra grabbed it an threw it aside an that was bankai ichigo also ulquiorra has tough skin so it will take a while for urahara to actually Hurt him judging by the power urahara has used so far.
 

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you know it, you know it for a fact? cuss you're Kubo or something? Do you write Kubo and tell him what the power levels are supposed to be? Kisuke's Zanpakuto blade stood up to attacks from Aizen which are way stronger than Ulq.'s attacks. You don't know what his stuff can endure as you said yourself he's fought "weak" opponents. If he fought weak opponents than his weapon hasn't really been stress tested has it? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

sorry for double post

Like I said befor aizen was not swinging with the intent to kill any of them he was not even fighting foreal..an what ulquiorra is swinging with is not a sword it's a lot of condense energy an very destructive..anyway if his sword does not breaks he will still end up losing if he's in his shikai form.
 

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I don't take these arguments to heart I just say what I have to say..first off those restraints are for shinigami as Urahara said those cuffs are for the reiatsu vents witch are located in the wrists of all shinigami an last I checked ulquiorra is not a shinigami...no I'm not saying ulquiorra is stronger than aizen cuz I kno he's not i was just saying that's the only strong person urahara has fought...I kno what he created an ulquiorra knos about urahara so he will fight smart an most likely keep his distance somewhat..urahara fought who aizen well um like I said befor aizen was not fighting serious he let urahara land all of thoes attacks so um yea...

Yea urahara beat ichigo in shikai mode an did you forget ulquiorra an ichigo fist real battle he killed ichigo off like he was nonthing an that was bankai hollowfied ichigo...one more thing when ichigo first did getsuga tensho on urahara, urahara had to use his shikai to block it while ulquiorra grabbed it an threw it aside an that was bankai ichigo also ulquiorra has tough skin so it will take a while for urahara to actually Hurt him judging by the power urahara has used so far.

Ulq. knows a limited amount on Urahara just like us the readers but less since they have never even interacted.

As for the fight with Ichigo I know the power levels were different I even said. However you're comparing an early power level with a later esaclated power level, that's not an accurate comparison. That's like saying because Naruto part 1 Neji lost to Naruto then part 2 Neji would lose to Deidara. Power levels in both these mangas spike exponentially in the later half, so to compare feats from separate time frames is skewered to say the least.

You may not "take these to heart" but you sure got sarcastic quick, "You think Urahara's god 'cus his bankai hasn't been shown yet" Just because I disagreed with you, you tried to make my arguments seem less valid by trying to implicate fanboy-ism. Despite me having agreed with you on the idea that he can be beaten.
 
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Ulq. knows a limited amount on Urahara just like us the readers but less since they have never even interacted.

As for the fight with Ichigo I know the power levels were different I even said. However you're comparing an early power level with a later esaclated power level, that's not an accurate comparison. That's like saying because Naruto part 1 Neji lost to Naruto then part 2 Neji would lose to Deidara. Power levels in both these mangas spike exponentially in the later half, so to compare feats from separate time frames is skewered to say the least.

You may not "take these to heart" but you sure got sarcastic quick, "You think Urahara's god 'cus his bankai hasn't been shown yet" Just because I disagreed with you, you tried to make my arguments seem less valid by trying to implicate fanboy-ism. Despite me having agreed with you on the idea that he can be beaten.

Ur the one that said urahara beat ichigo an so I said ulquiorra beat ichigo to a stronger one at that..so what you saying?

Lol you said from what we seen he can beat ulquiorra lol off that fact alone I think that you thought he was a god cuz ain't no way in hell he can beat ulquiorra off the feats that he has shown so far.
 

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Urahara no doubt here.

Benihime plays with fire, Hado 91, reiatsu seals all would do some pretty mean damage to ulquiorra.
 
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