Uchihas could defeat easily Pain logically speaking

[David Walker]

Rikoudo just sealed jyuubi. not defeated. guess what. the strongest entity in the world, Jyuubi had Sharingan.

er do you know the history of ocular powers ? xd???

juyuubis eyes are unkown the manga isnt clear enough to tell

also the descendants of SO6P one son had sharingan...other had will of fire...

 

[David Walker]

Clarify this for me please: What book? You keep saying he was defeated by a book.

hes talking about the book jiraiya wrote which nagato inspired him to write...

all the stuff about faith being better than any plan etc etc. then minato deciding to name his child after the character in the book

tbh though it just sounds like hes throwing a tantrum ... if he doesnt like the concept of a person giving up and helping another to succeed because he feels hes not worthy ...then he shouldnt watch naruto anymore xd

 

[squiremarcus]

Madara would just teleport to where Madara is and rape Konan in front of him. Then when he would be okay he would kill Nagato with a kunai.

IT TAKES ONE KUNaI TO KILL NAGATO IF YOU ARE A STRONG UCHIHA. ONE KUNAI.

Rikoudo just sealed jyuubi. not defeated. guess what. the strongest entity in the world, Jyuubi had Sharingan.

erm it was a sharingan rinnegan mix but ok

 

[chopsy16]

k. Lets take it from the beggining. I will use as an example Itachi, because he was a powerfull Uchiha who depended his whole fighting style on Sharingan.

Pain is shown to be weak against Genjutsu. What a coincidence, uchihas are the best in Genjutsu. Itachi has never shown any problem facing many opponents at once. Some may say that he has a weak stamina. But this noob bullshit. He managed to used two Tsukuyomis, some kage bushins that expolded a suiton and an Amaterasu and still be able to fight. Kakashi must go to the hospital after using his Mangkuy for two times. So, if you take into account the fact that Pain is weak to genjutsu plus the fact that Sharingan can Genjutsu a beast like Manda in a few seconds and control a Jinchuriki who is kage level something that could not be possible it is logical.

So, one possible strategy is to use multiple Genjutsu or Tsukuyomi. Jiraiya failed to kill Pain with his frog genjutsu however that is because Pain saved all the bodies for later. So hould have been the reviving body there from the start then Pain was pretty screwd up. However Nagato would be still alive and here is where Itachi comes and plays his role. Tsukuyomi can work on multiple opponents as long as the opponent looks at the eyes. So, Itachi could Tsukuyomi the Pain bodies especially since they have not exploited the ability to fight without looking at Itachis face. However Nagato shares the vision with these bodies so he would be Tsukuyomied too.


So any Uchiha who has mastered Genjutsu could practilly kill Pain.

You do have a good point there.. Genjutsu certainly does the trick against Pain.. but you need a powerful genjutsu like Tsukyomi or the SAGE ARTS:frog song. A genjutsu is basically disturbing other opponents chakra flow. Peins one of the most powerful chakra there is so I don't think a normal genjutsu would suffice.

In this case the first thing that needs to be confirmed is "Can Tsukyomi be used against multiple opponents at the same time??" If so where is the proof? Itachi could use Tsukyomi on 1 person at a time.. (You can use genjutsu on multiple opponents at the same time, but something like Tsukyomi where you have to look into ur opponents eyes, how can you look into 6 ppls eyes at the same time if they r standing in diff positions).

Also the genjutsu used by the frogs was a song, once you hear it you are in it. They have the advantage that no matter where the opponent is standing or how many there are, once you hear the song you are in the illusion. This is completely different from what Itachi or an MS Uchiha would do. They cast it with their eyes (Tsukyomi). We really don't know if a genjutsu used by Sharingan eye can beat a Rinnegan eye. Also, Tsukyomi if you can only cast it per person then it is of no use against 6 pains and you cannot cast 6 Tsukyomis' one after the other. That would be nuts!!

 

[Vergil..]

Madara would just teleport to where Madara is and rape Konan in front of him. Then when he would be okay he would kill Nagato with a kunai.

IT TAKES ONE KUNaI TO KILL NAGATO IF YOU ARE A STRONG UCHIHA. ONE KUNAI.

Rikoudo just sealed jyuubi. not defeated. guess what. the strongest entity in the world, Jyuubi had Sharingan.

By sealing it he defeated it.
Thats the same has saying that Minato lost to the kyuubi.

Sharingan cam from the rinnegan
The Jyuubi had some sort of rinnesharingan

Ehhhh? Half power eight tails Kuybi beat Rinnegans strongest jutsu. Chibaku tensei. MS can control full power Kyubi. What would Nagato do then.

He is gunna do nothing, he is gunna die!!!!!

That chibaku tensei wasnt at top level since nagato said he would make a bigger moon if the 9 tails came out

 

[Sekireis]

why not change the title in uchihas can defeat everyone easily?,genjutsu + a kunai should be enough yoo????????

u love uchihas much?

 

[sasuke uchiha94]

sorry man but I cant agrre with you on this one.

1.MADARA could had taked pein easily with his old/full power.
2.Itachi and sasuke would lose to him, because naruto couldnt win.I mean he coudnt have taking him without the tree clone with full recovery (sage power)

 

[Gatsndshanks]

Itachi vs 6 paths
Hmm itachi would have to exhausted alot of chakra in order to put all six under tsukiyomi or even use amaterasu on all six, the numbers are against them...seeing as their akatsuki, they'd know about their abilities so pein would most likely know how to counter itachi's moves using something....if itachi used sasunoo....not sure if its a chakra-based being or what but if it is, it would get absorb and seeing as its last-resort, wouldnt last an aweful lot to take down all six and still be effected by shinra tensei :/....Naruto never really won despite having like 4 bunshins....countless rasengan (his best move) Variations, without hinata's intereference, he would be dead....and also pein was weakened when he used shinra tensei (or w/e) so naruto faced a weak pein nd still got pwnt....
Also taking into account pein's summonings....i havent really seen much of itachi's arsenal except for a couple of fireballs and stuff <.< just eye techniques which would exhaust after numerous summoning/bodies...ect..

 

[NudieNovak]

Uhh the elder son from the So6p had th byakugan, and as we all know the sharrigan originated from the byakugan and stronger(well thats what kakai said). In saying this im still on the fence on who would win between the fight.

Itachi is a badass and you dont even need to look in his eyes. but one of the boodies can just pump chakra into the body to cancel the genjutsu.

On another note since they have shared vision if one gets stuck in a genjutsu do they all get stuck. o.0

 

[sandshark]

So I disagree.
1-Pein could use all elements, could absorb chakra, could control gravity and forces, had access to multiple summons, and enormous amount of chakra, and some of the most fearsome techniques the shinobi world has ever seen. (He can summon a monster that sucks souls and can bring dead people back to life. Saying Sasuke or Itachi could beat him is just ignorant. The Sharingan is good, don't get me wrong, but Pein's eyes are unmatched.
2- Pein didn't just lose to a loud mouthed kid. He completely wiped out Konoha and almost all their shinobi, and then fought Naruto in Sage mode and the Kyuubi. Naruto isn't as weak as you say. Despite him not having a large array of techniques, he still is very resourceful and is a host.
3- Yes Pein was played by Madara, but everyone and their mother is in the manga now (including Sasuke) He's very old and has access to a ridiculous space time ninjutsu. Madara isn't your average shinobi, he's without doubt a genius. Not to mention Pein was like only 30ish so Madara was much more experienced.

 

[Itachi The Best Uchiha]

The Genjutsu Pein was caught in was from a SONG, anybody with ears could be caught in that Genjutsu.Nobody knows if or how the rinnegan would've countered the sharingan so your point is useless and dumb troll.

 

[John Constantine]

I don't know about the end result.. For me they are equally powerfull.
Itachi Uchiha could trap all 6 pein's bodies with one Tsukyomi since all 6 share the same vision,could burn all of them till incineration with Amaterasu and could go "God" mode with Susano'o..
but he only has so much chacra and Nagato being as powerfull and experienced as he was he most certainly would try and avoid Itachi's techniques and get back with some of his own.
Very hard to tell..

Tsukyomi is not invencible,Sasuke Uchiha defeated Tsukyomi..

Some jutsu's like the one Orochimatu's used to use of the substitution of body do work on amaterasu but take a huge tool on the user's chacra and Itachi could always trigger amaterasu again.

Susano'o (Itachi's version) seems invencible..​

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

The Uchiha are the best nuff said. haters gtfo

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

I don't know about the end result.. For me they are equally powerfull.
Itachi Uchiha could trap all 6 pein's bodies with one Tsukyomi since all 6 share the same vision,could burn all of them till incineration with Amaterasu and could go "God" mode with Susano'o..
but he only has so much chacra and Nagato being as powerfull and experienced as he was he most certainly would try and avoid Itachi's techniques and get back with some of his own.
Very hard to tell..

Tsukyomi is not invencible,Sasuke Uchiha defeated Tsukyomi..

Some jutsu's like the one Orochimatu's used to use of the substitution of body do work on amaterasu but take a huge tool on the user's chacra and Itachi could always trigger amaterasu again.

Susano'o (Itachi's version) seems invencible..​

sasuke uchiha was a master at his sharingan, dont be insane and think everyone can break itachis tsukyomi because they cant. not to mention sasuke and itachi are blood relative beasting runs in the family

 

[Emperor]

The Uchiha are the best nuff said. haters gtfo

Wow, fanboyism much ?

 

[John Constantine]

sasuke uchiha was a master at his sharingan, dont be insane and think everyone can break itachis tsukyomi because they cant. not to mention sasuke and itachi are blood relative beasting runs in the family

They can't..But my point was that Tsukyomi is not invencible..​

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

why not change the title in uchihas can defeat everyone easily?,genjutsu + a kunai should be enough yoo????????

u love uchihas much?

you're right, uchihas can defeat anyone with genjutsu and a kunai.

look sasuke could of killed raikages jounins but instead he just paralyzed one with genjutsu and left it at that

 

[Emperor]

you're right, uchihas can defeat anyone with genjutsu and a kunai.

look sasuke could of killed raikages jounins but instead he just paralyzed one with genjutsu and left it at that

Sigh...dude, rein in the fanboyism, please.

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

Wow, fanboyism much ?

common sense much =D

 

[EternalUchihaSasuke]

They can't..But my point was that Tsukyomi is not invencible..​

since their are only 2 Uchihas alive and one other person with mangekyou (kakashi). tsukyomi is 99.9% invincible unless madara counters it or kakashi and even kakashi got destroyed instantly with itachis.

and i didnt use danzo because i doubt he has any skill with his sharingan compared to the people who have been using it since they were kids