The match comes down to Perfect Susanoo vs Perfect Susanoo.
One thing we can't be sure of, is that increase in offence and defence in Sasuke's PS, and would it be on Madara's PS level; however, I doubt it would. Sasuke's previous Susanoo's aren't on par with Madara's previous Susanoo. This is quite evident by these scans:
1). Sasuke's ribcage was tearing off by Ay's punches. [
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Madara's ribcage was tanking combination of Gokage: [
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2). Sasuke's V3 Susanoo was wide opened by Danzo's Futon increased by Baku. [
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Madara's V2 Susanoo took on Hirudora, which operates through dense air pressure. That's more denser than Danzo's Futon.
That being said, the boost Sasuke would get for his Susanoo by Kurama's Chakra, is 3x times fold. However, I doubt it would be on Madara's Perfect Susanoo.
Madara's Perfect Susanoo was shown to tank Shinsuusenju's barrage punches alongside surviving the explosion of 11 TBB+PS blades, which only half of the cloak was destroyed. Keep it in mind that the more size in Susanoo, the greater the offence and defence, as Susanoo's is dependent on the Chakra applied to it. It also showed to cut mountain range > [
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The match comes down to Perfect Susanoo vs Perfect Susanoo.
One thing we can't be sure of, is that increase in offence and defence in Sasuke's PS, and would it be on Madara's PS level; however, I doubt it would. Sasuke's previous Susanoo's aren't on par with Madara's previous Susanoo. This is quite evident by these scans:
1). Sasuke's ribcage was tearing off by Ay's punches. [
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Madara's ribcage was tanking combination of Gokage: [
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2). Sasuke's V3 Susanoo was wide opened by Danzo's Futon increased by Baku. [
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Madara's V2 Susanoo took on Hirudora, which operates through dense air pressure. That's more denser than Danzo's Futon.
That being said, the boost Sasuke would get for his Susanoo by Kurama's Chakra, is 3x times fold. However, I doubt it would be on Madara's Perfect Susanoo. In case, Madara shoots off multiple blades to destroy Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo and kills him:
The size difference isn't true, but the power difference is. Sasuke's Legged Susano'o is substantially superior to Madara's, though we cannot say the same for their PS.
I'm not sure where Sasuke's PS would stand in comparison to Madara's, but if there is a gap, it shouldn't be all that large.
This all comes down to a battle of PS power output and Madara wins low-mid difficulty.
EMS Sasuke PS is significantly weaker than EMS Madara PS.
EMS Sasuke didn't have the regular Kyuubi Cloak that boosted his techniques 3 times there normal power. He got his cloak after Yin+Yang Kurama fused their powers in one which produced a superior cloak because it was noted to be much bigger and stronger than it was before by Killer Bee and Choji so since they are both halves of the same entities, I'm going to conclude that the cloak Naruto gave Sasuke pumped his techniques twice as much, which would mean 6 times their normal powers.
So with his techniques (mainly Susanoo in this case) 6 times its normal power and even with it enhanced by Senjutsu (which would increase it even more by what; 50%, 75%, or 100%?) it still failed to produce any feats that put it above EMS Madara PS level or at the very least on par with his.
Long story short, Madara wins low-mid difficultly.
Madara still wins. When all of the Kyuubi cloaks were taken into account, they were comparable to Hashirama's. A single cloak won't be much of a gap closer for someone who lasted a few seconds less than Hashirama himself (not saying his chakra levels are that close, but they are somewhat close nevertheless). Unless Sasuke receives a 8 tailed Kyuubi cloak to amp up his PS, it is unlikely to compete with Madara's. If hypothetically however, Sasuke's PS was capable of reaching Madara levels of PS through this one Kyuubi cloak, amped by Enton, would conclusively give Sasuke a victory.
The match comes down to Perfect Susanoo vs Perfect Susanoo.
One thing we can't be sure of, is that increase in offence and defence in Sasuke's PS, and would it be on Madara's PS level; however, I doubt it would. Sasuke's previous Susanoo's aren't on par with Madara's previous Susanoo. This is quite evident by these scans:
1). Sasuke's ribcage was tearing off by Ay's punches. [
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Madara's ribcage was tanking combination of Gokage: [
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2). Sasuke's V3 Susanoo was wide opened by Danzo's Futon increased by Baku. [
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Madara's V2 Susanoo took on Hirudora, which operates through dense air pressure. That's more denser than Danzo's Futon.
That being said, the boost Sasuke would get for his Susanoo by Kurama's Chakra, is 3x times fold. However, I doubt it would be on Madara's Perfect Susanoo.
Madara's Perfect Susanoo was shown to tank Shinsuusenju's barrage punches alongside surviving the explosion of 11 TBB+PS blades, which only half of the cloak was destroyed. Keep it in mind that the more size in Susanoo, the greater the offence and defence, as Susanoo's is dependent on the Chakra applied to it. It also showed to cut mountain range > [
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In case, Madara shoots off multiple blades to destroy Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo and kills him:
IMO, I think Madara's experience will be his winning factor. That and huge katons and ridiculous stamina. His PS also outmatches Sasuke's ps that has no feats
What do you think Susanoo exactly does, genius? It protects the user. It doesn't matter whether it got decreased or not, Ay was shattering. Simple as that.
The size difference isn't true, but the power difference is. Sasuke's Legged Susano'o is substantially superior to Madara's, though we cannot say the same for their PS.
I'm not sure where Sasuke's PS would stand in comparison to Madara's, but if there is a gap, it shouldn't be all that large.
If there is a large difference in strength between their Legged Susanoo, then the same gap will be present in their Perfect Susanoo. No reason why it shouldn't. If 2>1, multiplying them both by 4 won't change the gap between 2 and 1. 2 will still always be 2x greater than 1. Same goes for Madara and Sasuke's Susanoo, if you catch my drift.
The match comes down to Perfect Susanoo vs Perfect Susanoo.
One thing we can't be sure of, is that increase in offence and defence in Sasuke's PS, and would it be on Madara's PS level; however, I doubt it would. Sasuke's previous Susanoo's aren't on par with Madara's previous Susanoo. This is quite evident by these scans:
1). Sasuke's ribcage was tearing off by Ay's punches. [
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Madara's ribcage was tanking combination of Gokage: [
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Unfair comparison. That is MS Sasuke, with the thinnest Susanoo he's ever made, and EMS Madara w/ the largest ribcage he's ever made. Sasuke has made thicker Ribcages since getting EMS, so this doesn't count.
2). Sasuke's V3 Susanoo was wide opened by Danzo's Futon increased by Baku. [
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Madara's V2 Susanoo took on Hirudora, which operates through dense air pressure. That's more denser than Danzo's Futon.
Madara's V3 Susanoo was obliterated by Hirudora. It wasn't V2 as it had a muscular looking body and arms.
That being said, the boost Sasuke would get for his Susanoo by Kurama's Chakra, is 3x times fold. However, I doubt it would be on Madara's Perfect Susanoo.
3x was the boost the raw chakra from Kurama gave to Kakashi. The cloak using Naruto and Yang Kurama's chakra is way over 3x, and the one from Yin and Yang Kurama and Naruto is way over that. So Sasuke's Susanoo would be way above Madara's.
Madara's Perfect Susanoo was shown to tank Shinsuusenju's barrage punches alongside surviving the explosion of 11 TBB+PS blades, which only half of the cloak was destroyed. Keep it in mind that the more size in Susanoo, the greater the offence and defence, as Susanoo's is dependent on the Chakra applied to it. It also showed to cut mountain range > [
You can see two explosions. One made by SS and one made by Bijuu Dama. (the one where the wood particles are seen flying around) PS didn't take both attacks, it was destroyed by SS alone.
In case, Madara shoots off multiple blades to destroy Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo and kills him:
EMS Sasuke didn't have the regular Kyuubi Cloak that boosted his techniques 3 times there normal power. He got his cloak after Yin+Yang Kurama fused their powers in one which produced a superior cloak because it was noted to be much bigger and stronger than it was before by Killer Bee and Choji so since they are both halves of the same entities, I'm going to conclude that the cloak Naruto gave Sasuke pumped his techniques twice as much, which would mean 6 times their normal powers.
That's the one he has this time. And no, the regular Kyuubi cloak gave a boost well over 3x. Not exactly 3x.
So with his techniques (mainly Susanoo in this case) 6 times its normal power and even with it enhanced by Senjutsu (which would increase it even more by what; 50%, 75%, or 100%?) it still failed to produce any feats that put it above EMS Madara PS level or at the very least on par with his.
Wow...so you people actually think that Sasuke's PS can get a boost, double way over 3x his normal Susanoo's strength, and still have a PS inferior to Madara's? Based on what? Lol. Though, he didn't have a chakra boost from Naruto when he used it, he only had Naruto's Senjutsu from the Kurama Avatar.
EMS Sasuke's PS w/ all those power ups had no feat besides ripping through a sword, which had nothing but endless hype from Obito behind it. There is no feat that allows you people to say Madara's PS is leagues above Sasuke's None whatsoever.
Looking at the rest of their Susanoo versions without the power up, you can see no extremely large gap like you guys are trying to create, so one won't exist with PS either. With the power up, Sasuke's Legged Susanoo was shown to be much stronger than Madara's Legged Susanoo, so his PS w/ the boost will be much stronger.
This all comes down to a battle of PS power output and Madara wins low-mid difficulty.
EMS Sasuke PS is significantly weaker than EMS Madara PS.
EMS Sasuke didn't have the regular Kyuubi Cloak that boosted his techniques 3 times there normal power. He got his cloak after Yin+Yang Kurama fused their powers in one which produced a superior cloak because it was noted to be much bigger and stronger than it was before by Killer Bee and Choji so since they are both halves of the same entities, I'm going to conclude that the cloak Naruto gave Sasuke pumped his techniques twice as much, which would mean 6 times their normal powers.
So with his techniques (mainly Susanoo in this case) 6 times its normal power and even with it enhanced by Senjutsu (which would increase it even more by what; 50%, 75%, or 100%?) it still failed to produce any feats that put it above EMS Madara PS level or at the very least on par with his.
Long story short, Madara wins low-mid difficultly.
what are you talking about? sasuke wasnt boosted with narutos cloak when he used ps, the cloak was gone when juubito slammed both of them to the ground, the only boost it would receive was narutos senjutsu and he never swung the blade for us to see the real power of his slash, they only focused it on a single straightforward charge. if sasukes legged soosano boosted with kyuubis chakra allowed him slash a branch much bigger than his soosano and with shockwaves too something which outclasses madaras legged variant i dont see how his ps boosted a lot by same chakra wouldnt top that power and do significantly better except if you believe his ps is miles and miles below madaras which frankly nothing suggests such a gap. OT. Madara can outlast sasuke so I feel he still takes it but high dif.
Well amigo, when there are no feats to oppose the opposition theres not really an argument that can be made that doesn't fall under speculation therefore its not solid evidence and I wouldn't use it seriously as the foundation of the argument.
