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The purpose of this thread is to illustrate why and how Uchiha Madara lost his battle at the Valley of the End.
THEORY: Mito was brought to the Valley of the End to "disarm" Uchiha Madara & become the 9 Tails Jinchurriki
A lot of threads have been released recently, questioning exactly how powerful was Hashirama back during his last battle with Madara. Although I'm sure he was extremely powerful... I believe the specific reason he was able to defeat Madara at the Valley of the End was due to Mito. I will bring up a few points to back up my arguement, and further illustrate them:
********************SKIP DOWN TO THE QUICK OVERVIEW IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ******************
1. Hashirama fought Madara many times, but he was never able to kill him until the Valley of the End.
It is said that they both fought eachother countless times, and for the most part they were evenly matched. This is why villages would alway hire their two clans to fight against eachother, they could only compete with themselves. But their being evenly matched caused both of them to survive all of their battles against eachother, until the Valley of the End...
2. Mito (and Kushina) was brought to the Leaf Village for the express purpose of being the 9 Tails Jinchurriki.
Mito says that "they" (her and Kushina) were both brought to the Leaf Village for the purpose of becoming the 9 tails jinchurriki. This means that Mito was brought to the Leaf Village to become the Jinchurriki BEFORE THE VILLAGE EVEN HAD THE 9 TAILS FOX. Make note of this.
3. Mito was the first Jinchurriki for the 9 Tails.
Mito says herself, she was the first Jinchurriki for Karuma. This means that no other Leaf shinobi was a jinchurriki before her. Which also means she was brought to the village when they thought it was a CHANCE for them to obtain the 9 Tails Demon Fox, held by Madara at that time in history. Make a note of this.
Quick Overview:
EXTRA: Obito knew that Mito (as Karuma's jinchurriki) had the ability to sense negative emotions.
{She may have used this ability against Madara at the Valley of the End}
Obito knew Mito could sense negative emotions... but HOW?
1. Madara taught obito everything he knew. Obito was born after Mito had already died.
2. Obito knew that Karuma would also give naruto the ability to sense negative emotions.
3. The ability to sense negative emotions comes from the chakra of Karuma.
4. No Shinobi has ever been jinchurriki to Karuma before Mito.
5. No Shinobi (other than Naruto/Mito) has had the ability to sense negative emotions.
6. Mito didn’t become a jinchurriki until DURING the battle at the Valley of the End.
7. Mortally wounded, Madara spent the rest of (Mito’s) lifetime in isolation/hiding with the Gedo. There is no way he could have found out about this "power" (sense negative emotions) before there ever was a Jinchurriki for Karuma. And there is no way he could have found out about this "power" after their battle at the Valley of the End, because he was stuck to the Gedo in hiding/isolation for the rest of his life (or atleast until after Mito died for sure).
How would Madara know about Mito’s power to sense negative emotions (Madara taught Obito) unless she used it during her battle with Hashirama? The power to sense negative emotions comes in BM mode, which is why Kushina never had this ability and why Naruto never had this ability before he stole Karuma's chakra. If Mito had the power to sense negative emotions, that means she also had a BM mode, possibly while fighting at the Valley of the End. It would then be very easy to assume how Uchiha Madara lost that final battle:
BM Mito (w/ negative emotion senses) + Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness = Death of Uchiha Madara
THEORY: Mito was brought to the Valley of the End to "disarm" Uchiha Madara & become the 9 Tails Jinchurriki
I labeled this a theory because there has been no direct proof to show that Hashirama planned use Mito to become the 9 Tails jinchurriki during this battle. Hashirama would have known by this time (final battle) that Madara had control of Karuma. It would make perfect sense for him to request a skilled fuinjutsu user (Mito) from the Uzumaki (distant relatives) to assist in the most important battle of his life. You need to ask yourself:
WHY WOULD HASHIRAMA ONLY BRING MITO TO HELP HIM FIGHT THE STRONGEST SHINOBI HE EVER BATTLED...?
I believe the only reason Hashirama brought along Mito (instead of any other shinobi, including his own talented brother) to the Valley of the End was the same reason she was brought to the Village itself--to seal the 9 Tails inside herself. This would aide Hashirama in defeating Uchiha Madara and add military power to the Leaf Village.
WHY WOULD HASHIRAMA ONLY BRING MITO TO HELP HIM FIGHT THE STRONGEST SHINOBI HE EVER BATTLED...?
I believe the only reason Hashirama brought along Mito (instead of any other shinobi, including his own talented brother) to the Valley of the End was the same reason she was brought to the Village itself--to seal the 9 Tails inside herself. This would aide Hashirama in defeating Uchiha Madara and add military power to the Leaf Village.
A lot of threads have been released recently, questioning exactly how powerful was Hashirama back during his last battle with Madara. Although I'm sure he was extremely powerful... I believe the specific reason he was able to defeat Madara at the Valley of the End was due to Mito. I will bring up a few points to back up my arguement, and further illustrate them:
********************SKIP DOWN TO THE QUICK OVERVIEW IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ******************
1. Hashirama fought Madara many times, but he was never able to kill him until the Valley of the End.
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It is said that they both fought eachother countless times, and for the most part they were evenly matched. This is why villages would alway hire their two clans to fight against eachother, they could only compete with themselves. But their being evenly matched caused both of them to survive all of their battles against eachother, until the Valley of the End...
2. Mito (and Kushina) was brought to the Leaf Village for the express purpose of being the 9 Tails Jinchurriki.
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Mito says that "they" (her and Kushina) were both brought to the Leaf Village for the purpose of becoming the 9 tails jinchurriki. This means that Mito was brought to the Leaf Village to become the Jinchurriki BEFORE THE VILLAGE EVEN HAD THE 9 TAILS FOX. Make note of this.
3. Mito was the first Jinchurriki for the 9 Tails.
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Mito says herself, she was the first Jinchurriki for Karuma. This means that no other Leaf shinobi was a jinchurriki before her. Which also means she was brought to the village when they thought it was a CHANCE for them to obtain the 9 Tails Demon Fox, held by Madara at that time in history. Make a note of this.
Quick Overview:
Hashirama fought Madara many times over history, but he was never able to kill him until the Valley of the End. Mito said she was brought to the Leaf Village for the express purpose of being the 9 Tails Jinchurriki. This means that Mito was brought to the Leaf Village before they ever had the 9 Tails in their possession... but Hashirama knew Madara had control over the Fox.
It is interesting to note here that of all shinobi to bring with him to the Valley of the End (including his own talented brother) he chose to bring Mito.
Before Jinchurriki, the Uchiha Clan (MS specifically) were the only shinobi able to "tame" the 9 Tails Fox. Madara was the FIRST to awaken MS. Since Madara had control of the 9 Tails, its safe to assume she was brought to that fight at the Valley of the End specifically for the purpose of becoming Karuma's first Jinchurriki. Without Karuma, Hashirama would have a much better chance at defeating Madara once and for all.
*BM Mito (w/ negative emotions senses) + Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness = Death of Uchiha Madara
*This is only a side theory. See explanation in the "Extra" section.
It is interesting to note here that of all shinobi to bring with him to the Valley of the End (including his own talented brother) he chose to bring Mito.
Before Jinchurriki, the Uchiha Clan (MS specifically) were the only shinobi able to "tame" the 9 Tails Fox. Madara was the FIRST to awaken MS. Since Madara had control of the 9 Tails, its safe to assume she was brought to that fight at the Valley of the End specifically for the purpose of becoming Karuma's first Jinchurriki. Without Karuma, Hashirama would have a much better chance at defeating Madara once and for all.
*BM Mito (w/ negative emotions senses) + Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness = Death of Uchiha Madara
*This is only a side theory. See explanation in the "Extra" section.
EXTRA: Obito knew that Mito (as Karuma's jinchurriki) had the ability to sense negative emotions.
{She may have used this ability against Madara at the Valley of the End}
You must be registered for see links
Obito knew Mito could sense negative emotions... but HOW?
1. Madara taught obito everything he knew. Obito was born after Mito had already died.
2. Obito knew that Karuma would also give naruto the ability to sense negative emotions.
3. The ability to sense negative emotions comes from the chakra of Karuma.
4. No Shinobi has ever been jinchurriki to Karuma before Mito.
5. No Shinobi (other than Naruto/Mito) has had the ability to sense negative emotions.
6. Mito didn’t become a jinchurriki until DURING the battle at the Valley of the End.
7. Mortally wounded, Madara spent the rest of (Mito’s) lifetime in isolation/hiding with the Gedo. There is no way he could have found out about this "power" (sense negative emotions) before there ever was a Jinchurriki for Karuma. And there is no way he could have found out about this "power" after their battle at the Valley of the End, because he was stuck to the Gedo in hiding/isolation for the rest of his life (or atleast until after Mito died for sure).
How would Madara know about Mito’s power to sense negative emotions (Madara taught Obito) unless she used it during her battle with Hashirama? The power to sense negative emotions comes in BM mode, which is why Kushina never had this ability and why Naruto never had this ability before he stole Karuma's chakra. If Mito had the power to sense negative emotions, that means she also had a BM mode, possibly while fighting at the Valley of the End. It would then be very easy to assume how Uchiha Madara lost that final battle:
BM Mito (w/ negative emotion senses) + Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness = Death of Uchiha Madara
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