[Theory] UCHIHA MADARA BREAKDOWN by Omningan

[what a drag]

Quite interesting theory. I forget what my original impression was in regard to this entirely new doujutsu, but I think I assumed it referred to a combination of his and his brother's MS powers. I always thought that the extent of the EMS was eternal light and the full ability to use both your original MS powers and all those that the other MS user had at his disposal. Obviously if this were the full extent, than Sasuke would get the short end of the stick since his MS abilities were exactly the same as Itachi's but with a slightly different Susanoo. Since we have seen very little of Sasuke in a while, I think that you are right. This new doujutsu has to be something completely independent. I can't honestly believe that Sasuke now has time/space ninjutsu but I think that theory of yours is as good as any.

Btw, very well done post.

Good theories and nice explanation...But my question is, how do you combine MS to MS? is it necessarily mean you have to take both of your eyes and transplant the new one?or one eye will do? take an example of Itachi and Sasuke..

 

[Sjekoor]

Damn, great thread!

 

[ruskival]

Quite interesting theory. I forget what my original impression was in regard to this entirely new doujutsu, but I think I assumed it referred to a combination of his and his brother's MS powers. I always thought that the extent of the EMS was eternal light and the full ability to use both your original MS powers and all those that the other MS user had at his disposal. Obviously if this were the full extent, than Sasuke would get the short end of the stick since his MS abilities were exactly the same as Itachi's but with a slightly different Susanoo. Since we have seen very little of Sasuke in a while, I think that you are right. This new doujutsu has to be something completely independent. I can't honestly believe that Sasuke now has time/space ninjutsu but I think that theory of yours is as good as any.

Btw, very well done post.

i dont think that sasuke would get the short end of the stick, based on the info from the manga it seems that if you just take another mangekyo sharingan all you get is EMS, but if you take MS from a sibling who would most probably have the same or similar powers you get EMS with possibly perfect techniques, like with sasuke/itachi maybe like a stronger, faster amaterasu, maybe perfect Sasoono, and on top of that you get an extra technique. but thats all up to speculation as we can only go on what info we have

 

[Omningan]

This is a very well-written post with a well-rounded and in depth analysis of Uchiha Madara.


About time we had people (such as yourself) act as an example to others with respect to creating properly developed theories.

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Damn, great thread!

Thank you!

 

[veggetta13]

Nice theory.. beautifuly worked. I think it might be correct.

PD: GET rid of Obito's name now man!!!!

 

[faizan]

well analyzed.... great work....rep......

 

[Avani]

Hi Guys,

This is a continuation of my post in the 517 Predictions thread about Madara. Wanted to continue my thoughts and give everyone else a chance to read it as well.


Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 516 Discussion and 517 Predictions



Let's do a little background for Madara...and finish up this thought.

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Here is proof that Madara is not a son of the Sage of the 6 Paths.
Just in case anyone is thinking that he is.
Madara's brother was also an Uchiha. Which means his brother is NOT a Senju. The sons of the SO6P were one Uchiha (elder) and one Senju (younger). The cycle of hatred starts here for the Uchiha when the SO6P chooses the younger Senju son to be the next leader.

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Here is Madara telling Kakashi and Naruto the story of how the Uchiha Curse of Hatred began with the Sage of the 6 Paths and his two sons. He goes on to say that this curse applies to him as much as to Sasuke and that his own fight with Hashirama was fate.

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Here he tells Naruto that even though this is only the second time he has met Naruto he knows that Naruto is Senju...good to know.
And also that Naruto and Sasuke have been fated to clash as well.

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Here we get a glimpse of both Madara, and his brothers Mangekou Sharingan eyes.

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Here you can see the combined form of Madara's eyes after he takes his brothers eyes and forms the EMS. It is clearly different than it was before, and it is also clearly changed to be a mix of both. Madara's look similar to his before, but now it has the lines going to the edge of the eyes that was the obvious trait of his younger brother's eyes.
By this we can assume that Sasuke's eyes will also look different now that he has transplanted Itachi's.

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Here, Itachi explains that the transplant gave birth to an entirely new eye power. He doesn't specify if that new power is a new eye (rinnengan) or if its a new eye power (time space). I believe it to be the later, however I wouldn't be surprised with either explanation. Here we can assume that Sasuke will also develop a new doujutsu because of his transplant with Itachi's eyes...will we Sasuke with a new sharingan, the rinnengan, or even a new totally unknown doujutsu?

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Here we see Sasuke show his Mangekou Sharingan in both eyes.
There is some heavy shading in this frame, look at the next page to see a clearer frame shot of one of the eyes.

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Here we see Itachi clearly shows his double Mangekou Sharingan.

Will we see a combined form of both MS in Sasuke's new EMS?
What will it be Kishi?

To get back on track with Madara's plan...

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This is a great page for Madara info.
It says that Madara's unstoppable power led him to be hailed as the strongest shinobi alive and that he formed an alliance with the Senju that formed the ninja world as we knowit, Leaf. Itachi finishes by saying that he wasn't able to defeat Hasirama in the fight for control but that he is "alive and well" as are his eyes "and their power"
This leads me to believe that although something may be wrong with Madara's as he has told the Kage's (not his whole self), but that he is still ALIVE and so are his eye powers.

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Here we learn some truth about Madara and the Sharingan from Itachi.
More to it than being able to control the Kyuubi...EMS.

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With EMS, Itachi says that any limits, any ideas of capacity will be gone.
"You and I are each other's spares."

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Here Madara explains to Naruto and Kakashi that even though Sasuke knows the truth now about Itachi and everything, he still wants revenge. Naruto accuses Madara of having done it to him. Madara replies, "no, I didnt" "he chose it himself" "i took a gamble not knowing" "he chose revenge" "in his heart he was always 'one of us'."

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"Naruto, someday you will have to fight Sasuke."
"Or, rather, I will make you fight Sasuke"
"This fated battle has been long in coming"

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Long before Madara tells Konan that he formed Akatsuki, not Yahiko.
Itachi gives Madara credit for it, but then starts bad mouthing Madara.
"Madara is a pathetic form of his former self"
"He's no longer worthy of being considered the greatest Uchiha"
"The only person who can surpass him, surpass the invincible Madara and achieve true immortality is me."
This is Itachi telling Sasuke what he wants Sasuke to believe.
NOT what Itachi really believes...I don't think Itachi wanted to kill his brother and obtain Sasuke's eyes to try and challenge Madara. I think that if that had been his wish, he could have and would have done so.
Since it is obvious that Itachi let Sasuke win, it is equally apparent that Itachi wants Sasuke to feel this way about Madara. Itachi is setting his brother up as the man that can defeat Madara once and for all. Go Itachi! Will it work?

So knowing that Madara will try to use Sasuke against Naruto, as I am sure Madara tried to use Itachi; Itachi is setting up Sasuke against Madara. Using the last few precious moments he has with his brother to build him up against Madara. I believe Madara probably tried to use Itachi to fight Naruto and gain the Kyuubi. He obviously doesn't want to/ or can't/couldn't do it by himself.

However, if he can use Sasuke to gain the power of the Kyuubi and Hachibi, he will be able to restore the power of the Juubi, and then wants to control it to become the most powerful being on the planet and then control the world. This is the path of Uchiha Madara. Who can/will stop him? Only Kishi knows for certain. I can hardly wait for this portion of the story to unfold.

Thanks for reading my posts.
I look forward to your thoughts.
If you really like this breakdown, let me know and i will do another for a different character.

Also...remembered a theory I have about Madara's time-space jutsu.
When he warps himself and or others away during a battle...
I think he is using warping them into a sealed room with 1000+ Zetsus...
"Welcome to Death Row!" or "Welcome to the Hospital"
He could just take them there, and then leave to go back to whatever he was doing.
Confident that the Zetsus would finish the job and kill/record/copy whoever he brings to them.
On the other hand he could warp there, and have the Zetsu's give him more chakra, heal him, replace limbs, cancel a raging case of Ameratsu... ya know, whatever. Its so genius it makes me want to cry. Not sure that's what is happening, but it makes a sick sense.

Thank you for making the search easy for important chapters. +rep for you.

 

[Cio 14765]

Good Job I like it

 

[HamzaVeli]

this is Spectacular - i think that Naruto Will Become The Juubi's Host - and Like You Said Omnigan, The Bijuu's Are Part's of the Juubi -

Rikudou Used A Seal To Become The Juubi's Host - Is That The Same Seal Naruto Used Against The Kyuubi's - I Mean The Kyuubi Is A Part Of The Juubi - Maybe It Rememberd The Seal - -

 

[D3A]

reppity rep rep...

now discredit the obito's 8'D

 

[Narutosixpaths]

Oh Omingan I don't think I saw it, but I believe the special chakra he was reffering to is how the Kyubi when reffering to Madara said "Those eyes, and that chakra even more ominous than my own. Why I haven't seen that since Madara Uchiha."