Uchiha in Hashirama's Time

[Touken]

People say the Uchiha in Hashirama's time weren't strong at all since only two Uchiha members had activated MS (Izuna and Madara) at that time and because there weren't proper academies to train the shinobi properly.

However, I do believe they were incredibly strong since it was stated by Itachi that many Uchiha spammed Izanagi which allows the user to connect illusion and reality. Through Izanagi, Uchiha can even escape death. Also, they were raised in a time where training was crucial from a very young age as children were sent to fight, unlike the current 4th Shinobi World War. I think this proves that Senju members were very powerful as they were able to defeat the Uchiha and I think this also proves the Senju were actually a 'clan of with a thousand skills'. If not, how else were they supposed to counter the Uchiha members?

And another thing, it also proves that the Senju weren't strong only because of Hashirama, but the entire clan were all formidable opponents.

Thoughts?

 

[sandy uzumaki]

It could be possible.... I guess there is no one from Senju in Konoha now !!

 

[Domo Genesis]

<div class="bbWrapper">Yeah well we'll never know won't we since there dead.</div>

 

[grizzlyshree]

People say the Uchiha in Hashirama's time weren't strong at all since only two Uchiha members had activated MS (Izuna and Madara) at that time and because there weren't proper academies to train the shinobi properly.

However, I do believe they were incredibly strong since it was stated by Itachi that many Uchiha spammed Izanagi which allows the user to connect illusion and reality. Through Izanagi, Uchiha can even escape death. Also, they were raised in a time where training was crucial from a very young age as children were sent to fight, unlike the current 4th Shinobi World War. I think this proves that Senju members were very powerful as they were able to defeat the Uchiha and I think this also proves the Senju were actually a 'clan of with a thousand skills'. If not, how else were they supposed to counter the Uchiha members?

And another thing, it also proves that the Senju weren't strong only because of Hashirama, but the entire clan were all formidable opponents.

Thoughts?

if you dont mind,i think u r implying that Tobirama(specifically) and some other senju would have been at hashis level(i mean somewhat lesser).isn it?

 

[Touken]

if you dont mind,i think u r implying that Tobirama(specifically) and some other senju would have been at hashis level(i mean somewhat lesser).isn it?

No, I've just seen people argue the case that Senju weren't all that strong because the Uchiha weren't all that strong. Hashirama > all Senju. Manga fact.

 

[ReeseKage]

Very true. I thought izanagi was a mangekyou tech?

 

[Touken]

Very true. I thought izanagi was a mangekyou tech?

It can't be, it only requires Senju DNA which the Uchiha can collect after killing Senju members. If it is an MS tech then that's a major mistake by Kishi.

 

[foxyladyland]

However, I do believe they were incredibly strong since it was stated by Itachi that many Uchiha spammed Izanagi which allows the user to connect illusion and reality. Through Izanagi, Uchiha can even escape death.

Itachi cant truthfully speak for that ERA , only Madara, Tobirama & Hashirama could. Possibly Sarutobi since they were actually from that time.. Itachi's parents weren't even born then, so he cant speak from baring witness like they can.

Also, they were raised in a time where training was crucial from a very young age as children were sent to fight, unlike the current 4th Shinobi World War.

Kid Madara / kid Hashi were both praised for their power by Madara's Father during their encounter.

I think this proves that Senju members were very powerful as they were able to defeat the Uchiha and I think this also proves the Senju were actually a 'clan of with a thousand skills'. If not, how else were they supposed to counter the Uchiha members?

Well , we could see a dramatic difference with 2 brothers who were completely different in everything almost.
looks and jutsu. Mokuton, summoning, healing witho0ut hand signs,
the other brother, masters Water jutsu, bringing the dead's corpses back to *life*, space/time jutsu.

And another thing, it also proves that the Senju weren't strong only because of Hashirama, but the entire clan were all formidable opponents.

Tobirama was indeed a powerhouse. They were mostly like group fights so anybody could capitalize on the enemy.
Or the enemies mistakes.

 

[NarutoKage2]

The senju were overall stronger than the uchiha, who themselves were at their all time strongest back then.

 

[Touken]

You could be right about Itachi but I'm sure Hiruzen stated Itachi was interested and looked into the history of the clan, unlike every other Uchiha.

 

[Avinash012]

I completly agree with u......no one ever said Senju are feared just bcoz of Hashirama and Senju are superiour even when Hashi is a kid........

 

[DocThao]

the Uchiha were weak and just another fodder clan

hence they were pwned by the Senju to the point where they were betraying their own clan to go to the Senju

 

[Prime Rib]

It can't be, it only requires Senju DNA which the Uchiha can collect after killing Senju members. If it is an MS tech then that's a major mistake by Kishi.

touken you need to go re read the manga, inzanagi can be performed by the uchiha with their dojutsu but the technique wont be used at its full potential mastery WITHOUT senju dna, dosent mean they cant use the technique without senju dna.