If you were to take both statements as true then that would mean that at some point, Ashura's own power bloomed and matched Indra. Indra, being prideful, couldn't stand that and decided to get stronger (turning Ninshu into a weapon by developing Ninjutsu of his own unknown to us). He was once again above Ashura until Hagoromo gave him RSM to match his power again which ended up leading to the fight where they destroyed each other.
I don't remember how it happened but even CM1 Sasuke was giving base Naruto trouble so Naruto going into KN1 was him trying to gain advantage over Sasuke.
this literally changes nothing i said nor does it help your initial point. he went kn1 because he was getting dominated. the sasuke that was dominating him at that point was not influenced by the power of cm so your claim of him going kn1 to counter sasukes use of cm is null and void. he needed more power because nothing short of going all out would have been enough
But if you were able to use logic then we won't be having this discussion....:th:
Oh but he did when he chose not to hit Sasuke directly. I also gave you the reason why he chose to target the headband and what could've happened had he chosen to strike a vital point but ofc you don't understand logic so no surprise there.
no, you gave me a situation where you made a baseless statement about sasuke getting killed if the rasengan was at his chest even though you have no evidence of that as he was in cm2. then i use the same "what if" logic by saying nothing suggests sasuke wont have tried to avoid some of the impact if said rasengan was directed, you gave no counter.
did he use his full power and go at sasuke with it? thats all i need to know
Let me explain it this way. You're in a fight with your friend who's trying to kill you but you want to save him no matter what. Both of you've got a knife and at the final clash both end up stabbing each other. The only difference is your friend stabbed you in the neck directly while you chose to stab him in the arm.
So give me an honest answer now. Did you go all out on your friend?
your example is irrelevant since it ignores the context of the vote fight which is that everything that led up to that chidori and rasengan point was naruto giving it his all. him targetting sasukes headband doesnt change the effort he put in.
time and time again, naruto highlighted his weakness as the reason for why he failed against sasuke
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and not because he held back his rasengan like his fanboys always try to postulate. manga is analysed holistically, not cherry picking
this literally changes nothing i said nor does it help your initial point. he went kn1 because he was getting dominated. the sasuke that was dominating him at that point was not influenced by the power of cm so your claim of him going kn1 to counter sasukes use of cm is null and void. he needed more power because nothing short of going all out would have been enough
coming from a known clown, this is pretty rich
no, you gave me a situation where you made a baseless statement about sasuke getting killed if the rasengan was at his chest even though you have no evidence of that as he was in cm2. then i use the same "what if" logic by saying nothing suggests sasuke wont have tried to avoid some of the impact if said rasengan was directed, you gave no counter.
did he use his full power and go at sasuke with it? thats all i need to know
your example is irrelevant since it ignores the context of the vote fight which is that everything that led up to that chidori and rasengan point was naruto giving it his all. him targetting sasukes headband doesnt change the effort he put in.
time and time again, naruto highlighted his weakness as the reason for why he failed against sasuke
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and not because he held back his rasengan like his fanboys always try to postulate. manga is analysed holistically, not cherry picking
You avoiding to answer my question is proof enough of what I've been saying. And my question wasn't irrelevant at all when I provided the same situation Naruto and Sasuke were in. It just proves that Sausage faps would even deny common sense to hype their fav. And there's a difference in giving their all to save someone than to kill someone which you fail to understand.
Believe that garbage if that soothes your butthurt lol....uttahere:
In the chapter nowhere does it say Ninshu. Look how hard is it too understand it in the same chapter and same page.
Hagoromo says he only gave power to Ashura but not Indra end of it.
Hagoromo says he gave both Naruto and Sasuke power end of it.
Hagoromo says he didn't give power to Indra.
That is in the same page and same chapter.
You want to say Ashura only got Ninshu then fine, but you have to also think that Naruto and Sasuke only got Ninshu since it the same page and chapter.
Ashura = Indra with no Hagomoro power from any of them
Ashura with Hagoromo power = Indra somehow
Both can be true, we know Ashura got powers from Hagoromo but Indra is unknown what he did.
In the chapter nowhere does it say Ninshu. Look how hard is it too understand it in the same chapter and same page.
Hagoromo says he only gave power to Ashura but not Indra end of it.
Hagoromo says he gave both Naruto and Sasuke power end of it.
Hagoromo says he didn't give power to Indra.
That is in the same page and same chapter.
You want to say Ashura only got Ninshu then fine, but you have to also think that Naruto and Sasuke only got Ninshu since it the same page and chapter.
Ashura = Indra with no Hagomoro power from any of them
Ashura with Hagoromo power = Indra somehow
Both can be true, we know Ashura got powers from Hagoromo but Indra is unknown what he did.
You avoiding to answer my question is proof enough of what I've been saying. And my question wasn't irrelevant at all when I provided the same situation Naruto and Sasuke were in. It just proves that Sausage faps would even deny common sense to hype their fav. And there's a difference in giving their all to save someone than to kill someone which you fail to understand.
Believe that garbage if that soothes your butthurt lol....uttahere:
this literally changes nothing i said nor does it help your initial point. he went kn1 because he was getting dominated. the sasuke that was dominating him at that point was not influenced by the power of cm so your claim of him going kn1 to counter sasukes use of cm is null and void. he needed more power because nothing short of going all out would have been enough
coming from a known clown, this is pretty rich
no, you gave me a situation where you made a baseless statement about sasuke getting killed if the rasengan was at his chest even though you have no evidence of that as he was in cm2. then i use the same "what if" logic by saying nothing suggests sasuke wont have tried to avoid some of the impact if said rasengan was directed, you gave no counter.
did he use his full power and go at sasuke with it? thats all i need to know
your example is irrelevant since it ignores the context of the vote fight which is that everything that led up to that chidori and rasengan point was naruto giving it his all. him targetting sasukes headband doesnt change the effort he put in.
time and time again, naruto highlighted his weakness as the reason for why he failed against sasuke
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and not because he held back his rasengan like his fanboys always try to postulate. manga is analysed holistically, not cherry picking
He never tried to fight sasuke right there though he even helped him, he tried to talk to him as always so you can take that I'm weak as he couldn't bring his friend back again
It took 2 Uchiha to Wipe out the Uchiha Clan,Sasuke was spared by Itachi. It took 3 of the 5 Major Villages with their smaller nation Allies to Destroy Uzo but they filed to wipe out the Uzumaki Clan they simply spread to the 4 covers of the world. Not to mention Uzo invasion cripple Iwa and Cloud who sue for Peace with Konoha wen so many of their Ninjas were kill,cripple, or had their chakra sealed off. What Injury did Itachi and Obito receive from the Uchiha? A broken Nail?