Uchiha Clan vs Otsutsuki Clan

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Agreed ...
By the way , I just read the OP and he said JJ Hagoromo , Tenseigan Hamura , Indra and Ashura are also there ? :elmo: this discussion was ridiculous from the beginning :elmo:
Because None Tenseigan Hamura + None JJ Hagoromo >>>> Kaguya .... the same Kaguya alone seems to be dicking on the whole Uchiha clan XD
To be honest , I thought it was Kaguya + Momoshiki vs Uchiha clan :elmo:

Well the comparison is unbalanced indeed.

And the only reason Kaguya lost to Naruto and Sasuke is because she didn't go after them with the intent to kill which was dumb tbh. And I think she didn't fight her sons with the intent to kill as well.
 
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Yeah, but they fought the Ten-Tails, not Kaguya. Completely different powers.

How did She transform to the Ten-Tails if they didn't fight her ??? I think they fought her to the point that she was forced to transform to 10 tails .
 

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How did She transform to the Ten-Tails if they didn't fight her ??? I think they fought her to the point that she was forced to transform to 10 tails .

Hagaromo didn't know his mom was the tentails. They fought the juubi not knowing it was Kaguya. They were use to pre shinju Kaguya
 

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KA worked on Itachi, so it will work on Kaguya. :lmao:

We also have no evidence it can work on Kaguya. Stop using such dumbass logic. Their all Byakugan users, more or less, they will all be able to tell Kaguya is under a genjutsu, if it even works, and tell her of it.



That's because it needed to be shined on the moon for it to enevlop the world. Not the same case if we are talking about a group of 20 something people.

But we don't know if it can do that by itself or not.
 

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But we don't know if it can do that by itself or not.

The moon never existed when Kaguya used IT. Plus, Hagoromo claims he used both the Byakugan and RenniSharingan for IT.
 

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Logically, since the Rinne-Sharingan allowed Sasuke immunity to IT, and the Rinnegan is an evolution from MS, it'd make sense that the wielder of the Rinne-Sharingan is immune to all Rinnegan, and below (MS & 3T) Genjutsu.

So, no, I don't see KA working on Kaguya.

I don't think that's correct.

Even aving the Mangekyo Sharingan doesn't make you immune to KA. The only Mangekyo Sharingan genjutsu ability that can be broken is Tsukuyomi, and even then, breaking it requires the Sharingan and the blood trait Kekkei Genkai of the Uchiha Clan. Manga-wise, Nagato despite having the ultimate evolution of Sharingan cannot break free from Tsukuyomi.

So we do have an MS Genjutsu with genetic limitations, but the Kotoamatsukami doesn't have such limitations. The Sharingan can succumb to KA and so can a Rinnegan user, even a Byakugan user who has no idea of what's going on cannot see through KA. Ao couldn't tell that Mifune was under a genjutsu, but he could see that Danzo's eye had Shisui's chakra in it hence why he figured it out.

As it stands, no one in the entire NV can fight Kotoamatsukami. Having the RinneSharingan doesn't mean she can withstand KA if the MS can fall victim to it and the Rinnegan.
 

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Otsutsuki Clan neg diff.

Half of the listed Uchiha wouldn't survive the beginning of the fight.

Otsutsuki Clan possess the most chakra as well, allowing them to spam OP techs.

Also no one can beat Kaguya unless you have the seals.


Literally almost everyone on the Otsutsuki Clan list are powerhouses, while only a small handful on the Uchiha's are.
 

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Imagine being delusional enough to argue that Shisui can control Kaguya with KA. :lol A good chunk of the Uchiha are fodder to the Ootsutsuki's weakest members and even the strongest Uchiha need to team up to not get stomped by the strongest Ootsutsuki members (Hagoromo, Kaguya)

It's pretty clear that the Uchiha get raped.
 

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Imagine being delusional enough to argue that Shisui can control Kaguya with KA. :lol A good chunk of the Uchiha are fodder to the Ootsutsuki's weakest members and even the strongest Uchiha need to team up to not get stomped by the strongest Ootsutsuki members (Hagoromo, Kaguya)

It's pretty clear that the Uchiha get raped.

So because she's insanely strong she can't be affected by it? So you have no evidence to back yourself up.
 

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Imagine being delusional enough to argue that Shisui can control Kaguya with KA. :lol A good chunk of the Uchiha are fodder to the Ootsutsuki's weakest members and even the strongest Uchiha need to team up to not get stomped by the strongest Ootsutsuki members (Hagoromo, Kaguya)

It's pretty clear that the Uchiha get raped.

Hogaromo gets solo'd (sword of solo ).
 

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Weak bait ? Mangafacts and reason = weak bait?

only people that could damage otsutsuki are the ones with rinnegan or juubi, and ems aswell rest are fodder. hagos > madaras, asura + indra > sasukes, momoshiki + kinshiki >> obitos + tobi, hamura by being portrayed on the same level as hago >>> rest and backup for hago since its the only one that might struggle.
 

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only people that could damage otsutsuki are the ones with rinnegan or juubi, and ems aswell rest are fodder. hagos > madaras, asura + indra > sasukes, momoshiki + kinshiki >> obitos + tobi, hamura by being portrayed on the same level as hago >>> rest and backup for hago since its the only one that might struggle.

All otsutsuki so far have displayed chakra fruit power or it's pills power. Now are all otsutsuki like this maybe maybe not most are likely like the Hyuga (maybe not in gentle fist bit generally). Easy prey for the Uchiha who embody the power of the chakra fruit. Madara solos by otsutsuki I'm assuming you mean those that are other dimensional and then you have the entire history of Indra incarnates and Itachi's + shisui's of their era who (have his eye). It's an easy win for the Uchiha.
 
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All otsutsuki so far have displayed chakra fruit power or it's pills power. Now are all otsutsuki like this maybe maybe not most are likely like the Hyuga (maybe not in gentle fist bit generally). Easy prey for the Uchiha who embody the power of the chakra fruit. Madara solos by otsutsuki I'm assuming you mean those that are other dimensional and then you have the entire history of Indra incarnates and Itachi's + shisui's of their era who (have his eye). It's an easy win for the Uchiha.

Yeah only momo and kinshiki, the rest had their own power, and you forget hago was the original bearer of the sharingan and single handedly created the sharingan, Indra is also probably stronger than his reincarnates. Kaguya can only be sealed so itachi and the likes mean nothing, and i doubt koto would have an effect since its been stated she can only be sealed, and against the likes of tenseigan hamura and juubi hago they mean nothing.
 
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