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You literally misquoted me. Wow, you are desperate. That section where you misquoted me from was talking about the view of IQ tests from the perspective of black people.
@BOLD: APA did not say this in the citation included. This makes it an invalid statement.
IQ tests change over time, and if you actually took the time to read my comments and my sources, then you would know that they explicitly stated that they used to be biased, going as far as having a court case against them in the 1970's which then had a state-wide decree. It's called history, which makes it fact.
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Larry P. v. RILES (1979)
"This court finds in favor of plaintiffs, the class of black children who have been or in the future will be wrongly placed or maintained
[495 F.Supp. 933]
in special classes for the educable mentally retarded, on plaintiffs' statutory and state and federal constitutional claims. In violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the Education for All Handicapped Children Act of 1975, defendants have utilized standardized intelligence tests that are racially and culturally biased, have a discriminatory impact against black children, and have not been validated for the purpose of essentially permanent placements of black children into educationally dead-end, isolated, and stigmatizing classes for the so-called educable mentally retarded. Further, these federal laws have been violated by defendants' general use of placement mechanisms that, taken together, have not been validated and result in a large over-representation of black children in the special E.M.R. classes."
I've also cited the same exact quote from the APA, so again, maybe you should read what I actually said throughout my comments before you make a fool out of yourself?"
Uh no, that's a strawman. Just because there is a genetic component to intelligence, does not mean that skin color is a factor in their intelligence. Literally every human has genetic differences even within the same ethnicity. It's basic science.
Also it's funny that you again did not read what I had to say because the APA, your own source, says your wrong.
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"There is certainly no such support for a genetic interpretation. At present, no one knows what causes this differential. It is widely agreed that standardized tests do not sample all forms of intelligence. Obvious examples include creativity, wisdom, practical sense, and social sensitivity; there are surely others. Despite the importance of these abilities we know very little about them: how they develop, what factors influence that development, how they are related to more traditional measures. "
"It is sometimes suggested that the Black/White differential in psychometric intelligence is partly due to genetic differences (Jensen, 1972). There is not much direct evidence on this point, but what little there is fails to support the genetic hypothesis."
"Because ethnic differences in intelligence reflect complex patterns, no overall generalization about them is appropriate. The mean IQ scores of Chinese and Japanese Americans, for example, differ little from those of Whites though their spatial ability scores tend to be somewhat higher. The outstanding record of these groups in terms of school achievement and occupational status evidently reflects cultural factors. The mean intelligence test scores of Hispanic Americans are somewhat lower than those of Whites, in part because Hispanics are often less familiar with English."
All of the rest of your post is just ignorance and desperation.
Calling it SJW ramblings is an excuse for you being too lazy to read and the inability to come up with a competent argument.
I've cited scientific and historical sources, including the APA and Court cases, that support my argument.
So take a deep breath and shunshin your way back to a safe space like a good little shinobi.
You writing walls of texts as a response to my few lines tells everyone that you are desperate. Deep down inside you know I'm right.
Your argument about the bias is no longer relevant. You are citing a source from the 60's.lol. APA concluded in 1996 that there is no bias. Also it's funny how only the blacks in the U. S are supposedly the victims of bias, but when jewish people or japanese get highet scores than white europeans/americans it's acknowledged as a genetical reality between ethnicities. Hmm... I wonder why. Maybe it's because there is no bias and different ethnicities have different average iq's?
Fact is there are human races which differ from each other genetically and we can see the results for example in intelligence. Your argument that: "skin colour doesn't matter when it comes to iq" is silly because blacks in the US don't represent the same race as whites so they by default different from us.
Dawkins uses professorial ownage to tell the politically incorrect truth:
Richard Dawkins said:>It is genuinely true that, if you measure the total variation in the human species and then partition it into a between-race component and a within-race component, the between-race component is a very small fraction of the total. Most of the variation among humans can be found within races as well as between them. Only a small admixture of extra variation distinguishes races from each other. That is all correct. What is not correct is the inferene that race is therefore a meaningless concept. This point has been clearly made by the distinguished Cambridge geneticist A.W.F. Edwards in a recent paper “Human genetic diversity: Lewontin’s fallacy.” R.C. Lewontin is an equally distinguished Cambridge (Mass.) geneticist, known for the strength of his political convictions and his weakness for dragging them into science at every possibile opportunity. Lewontin’s view of race has become near-universal orthodoxy in scientific circles....
>....We can happily agree that human racial classification is of no social value and is positively destructive of social and human relations. That is one reason why I object to ticking boxes in forms and why I object to positive discrimination in job selection. But that doesn’t mean that race is of ‘virtually no genetic or taxonomic significance’
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