Tsunade vs. Kimmimaro

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If Tsunade shattered Susanoo's ribcage with one blow it would be another matter.. but she merely cracked the ribs a bit with the first strike.. Even if Tsunade shatters his bones, he can regrow them.. he can even create bone masks under his skin as a shield. With this he even survived Sabaku Soso, which completely crushes a humans body. And then, he just regenerated from that. And in Juin 2, Sabaku Taiso did shit to him..
 

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Yin seal Tsunade's stamina >>>> Kimimaro's stamina

Keep in mind these stats are base Kimimaro. he still has Ten no juin reburu 2.
Which busted out of Gaara's sand coffin.

 

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Orochimaru was good in dealing with Tsunade's strength. And yet he blessed and hyped Kimimaro's durability. He wanted it. Jiraiya also survived her powerful strikes with broken bones and injuries. Tsunade's most powerful blows would end a humans life.. but Kimimaro with his Kekkei Genkai can survive it. Kimimaro with Juin 1 more clearly. With Juin 2 even more.

This is a pure underestimation of Kimimaro rather than Tsunade. Means that they horribly underestimate Gaara's attacks.. Kimimaro survives Sabaku Soso, Sabaku Taiso and being buried in a depth of 200 meters, having no scratch after.. one of his thin bones in Base easily tanks Chakra enhanced blades which cut through massive stone pillars with ease..

And people laugh at Kimimaro being overrated.
 
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Because flying rocks and debris will be damaging the guy who's thinnest bones can take chakra enhanced Samurai blades with ease, and this is without taking CS1 or CS2 into account.



And Kimimaro's durability > > > Gaara's pressurized sand burials.



Oh, I don't know. The fact that he consistently stabs himself with bones and closes his wounds? The fact that he can regrow any bone that he pulls out?



Considering his entire fighting style involves pulling out his spinal cord and extruding bones out of his chest, puncturing skin and organs, and regrowing lost bones or lacerated skin, it is clear he does not have a normal body. He can fight effectively.



Clones have been proven to be far inferior to their originals. Otherwise, the Kage's would not have lasted nearly as long as they did when fighting five Susano'o clones simultaneously. Not to mention that partially cracking it does not equate to actually breaking it.
Lawl how is that is a healing ability?
Who knows, he might have special holes all over the body that allows him to do that which is y we can't see any blood coming out of his body ,have u ever seen him surviving a stab from something other than his bones?
Tsunade is a madic,she can just stop his chakra flow which is y he can't use the abilities that u have mentioned.Clone Susanoo's might be weaker than the real deal but that dosen't mean that Kimimaro > Clone Susanoo's so saying that clones weaker won't change anything here.


Rock f*cking lee and 1000 Km0 clones who are both faster than tsunade couldn't land 1 damn hit, but tsunade will? Seriously, these arguments are so bad it's not even funny.

Please provide the scan where kabuto stood a chance against kimimaro or even fought him??? Please! do show me. Because right kabuto himself states no one can beat kimimaro. The same kabuto who took on kakashi and tsunade in earlier chapter.

Stop talking out of your ass.

Why are u getting mad over a fictional character?
I have never said that Kabuto fought Kimimaro and Iam not pulling things out of my ass if anything it was u who is doing something like that,can u give me legit proofs which states that part 1 Lee and Naruto are faster than Tsunade?
Regardless u have already given an explanation for the case of Tsunade being unable to hit him aswell,she can simply catch him while he is attacking Tsunade as he is also a Taijutsu user.
Lee didn't land a blow on Kimimaro???
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Going by ur hype logic,Jiraya said that no one can beat Tsunade in a hand to hand combat battle,so there is hope for him to stand a chance against Tsunade.
There is no need for her to punch him,She can make him immobile just with single touch like she did to Kabuto here

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Kimi had no counter for this unless u think he can find a way like Kabuto.
She can just stop his chakra flow with single touch due to which he can use any of his KKg abilities or any ninjutsu's.
He is not going to tank her attacks unless u think that his body is stronger than Susanoo.
^^^^Game over for Kimimaro.
In order to win against Tsunade he need to finish her even b4 she managed to hit him or touch him since it is as good impossible for a close range fighter,Kimi ain't going to win this.
Iam not going to rep again as I don't want to support Tsunade,if u still disagree just say so ,don't even need any explination.

IM done here.
 
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Lee is faster than Tsunade, opened a gate and drunk Sake to make his moves unpredictable.. Even then Kimimaro started to get the upper hand when making use of his Kekkei Genkai, to

- absorb the power of his blows and even catch them
- shot out bones of his body to hurt Lee whenever he comes into close combat, despite of his speed and unpredictability

I recall that these abilities, combined with his monstrous durability, regeneration, Juin and speed plus agility will make it damned hart to give him the fatal blow.
 

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Lawl how is that is a healing ability?

So closing puncture moves is not a regenerative capability? News to me.

have u ever seen him surviving a stab from something other than his bones?

I've seen Gaara tear the and was fine later on. The very nature of his Kekkei Genkai is regenerative.

Tsunade is a madic,she can just stop his chakra flow which is y he can't use the abilities that u have mentioned.

Her nerve scrambling technique will not affect someone who can casually pull out their spinal cord. His unique skeletal structure prevented someone as skilled as Kabuto from properly analyzing it. Literally everything we know about Kimimaro indicates his body is not normal, and gives me every reason to believe that nerve scrambling will not be effective, if effective at all.

Clone Susanoo's might be weaker than the real deal but that dosen't mean that Kimimaro > Clone Susanoo's so saying that clones weaker won't change anything here.

Your reasoning was flawed. You stated that Tsunade broke Susano'o. I stated she only managed to chip off parts of a lesser stage of Susano'o with the Raikage and Onoki's help. You then linked me a scan of Tsunade damaging Susano'o alone. I replied by stating that it was not the real Madara and she did not even break it; only cracked it.

Of course clones being weaker matters. Unless you want to talk about Wave Arc Sasuke demolishing 6 Zabuza's single handedly. Hell, even ninjutsu is affected; compare Itachi's Shoten Katon to his Edo Katon, and you will see that his Edo Katon was far larger.
 

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Can't believe im saying this , but Tsunade just like hidan & Sugetsu are bad match ups to poor old Kimmi , Tsunade can be penetrated & still fight until the yin runs out , but it should enough time to beat him mid diff IMO.

Lady Tsunade > Kimmi .
 

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Are u saying that Tsunade can't do that?

yes
I don't think Tsunade can do anything she hasn't shown
this is the point of a ****ing vs match lol

Lawl how is that is a healing ability?
Who knows, he might have special holes all over the body that allows him to do that which is y we can't see any blood coming out of his body ,have u ever seen him surviving a stab from something other than his bones?
Tsunade is a madic,she can just stop his chakra flow which is y he can't use the abilities that u have mentioned.Clone Susanoo's might be weaker than the real deal but that dosen't mean that Kimimaro > Clone Susanoo's so saying that clones weaker won't change anything here.




Why are u getting mad over a fictional character?
I have never said that Kabuto fought Kimimaro and Iam not pulling things out of my ass if anything it was u who is doing something like that,can u give me legit proofs which states that part 1 Lee and Naruto are faster than Tsunade?
Regardless u have already given an explanation for the case of Tsunade being unable to hit him aswell,she can simply catch him while he is attacking Tsunade as he is also a Taijutsu user.
Lee didn't land a blow on Kimimaro???
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Going by ur hype logic,Jiraya said that no one can beat Tsunade in a hand to hand combat battle,so there is hope for him to stand a chance against Tsunade.
There is no need for her to punch him,She can make him immobile just with single touch like she did to Kabuto here

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Kimi had no counter for this unless u think he can find a way like Kabuto.
She can just stop his chakra flow with single touch due to which he can use any of his KKg abilities or any ninjutsu's.
He is not going to tank her attacks unless u think that his body is stronger than Susanoo.
^^^^Game over for Kimimaro.
In order to win against Tsunade he need to finish her even b4 she managed to hit him or touch him since it is as good impossible for a close range fighter,Kimi ain't going to win this.
Iam not going to rep again as I don't want to support Tsunade,if u still disagree just say so ,don't even need any explination.

IM done here.

such a waste of data.. kimi's taijutsu/speed feats shit on kabuto.. also he can grow bones from his body if tsunade tries to hit or touch him she will just get her hands pierced
 
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Rock f*cking lee and 1000 Km0 clones who are both faster than tsunade couldn't land 1 damn hit, but tsunade will? Seriously, these arguments are so bad it's not even funny.
Speed is not the only variant in a battle. Tactics, strategies, experience play a big role during a Shinobi battle, and those are skills that Tsunade has much more developed than Kimmimaro.
Please provide the scan where kabuto stood a chance against kimimaro or even fought him??? Please! do show me. Because right kabuto himself states no one can beat kimimaro.
Then Kabuto is a really bad psychic because he died some chapters after that, even if they didn't defeat him, Lee and Gaara were victorious...
The same kabuto who took on kakashi and tsunade in earlier chapter.

Stop talking out of your ass.
Kabuto escaped from Kakashi, and used Tsunade's blood's fear to defeat her, other way he would have lost, clever but coward...
 

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Tsunade's slow

Kimi's fast

Tsunade barely has any CQC

Kimi has toppled the best in CQC

Do the math
 

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Speed is not the only variant in a battle. Tactics, strategies, experience play a big role during a Shinobi battle, and those are skills that Tsunade has much more developed than Kimmimaro.

Then Kabuto is a really bad psychic because he died some chapters after that, even if they didn't defeat him, Lee and Gaara were victorious...

Kabuto escaped from Kakashi, and used Tsunade's blood's fear to defeat her, other way he would have lost, clever but coward...

@Bold We don't know that. Sadly, due to Kimmimaro's limited panel time, we don't know the full extent of his knowledge.

@Italic I don't know what you deem to be 'victory', though Lee and Gaara certainly did not defeat Kimmimaro. Kimmimaro's sickness defeated him.
 

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@Bold We don't know that. Sadly, due to Kimmimaro's limited panel time, we don't know the full extent of his knowledge.

@Italic I don't know what you deem to be 'victory', though Lee and Gaara certainly did not defeat Kimmimaro. Kimmimaro's sickness defeated him.
1) Databooks states she is smarter, and we can agree that Tsunade has lived more, and have many more years of experience in combat, she is like 53-55 now, and Kimmimaro died at the age of 15.

2) Agreed, they didn't defeat him, but they were victorious anyway, that was what i meant... So, what Kabuto said wasn't accurate.
 
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Lawl how is that is a healing ability?
Who knows, he might have special holes all over the body that allows him to do that which is y we can't see any blood coming out of his body ,have u ever seen him surviving a stab from something other than his bones?
Tsunade is a madic,she can just stop his chakra flow which is y he can't use the abilities that u have mentioned.Clone Susanoo's might be weaker than the real deal but that dosen't mean that Kimimaro > Clone Susanoo's so saying that clones weaker won't change anything here.




Why are u getting mad over a fictional character?
I have never said that Kabuto fought Kimimaro and Iam not pulling things out of my ass if anything it was u who is doing something like that,can u give me legit proofs which states that part 1 Lee and Naruto are faster than Tsunade?
Regardless u have already given an explanation for the case of Tsunade being unable to hit him aswell,she can simply catch him while he is attacking Tsunade as he is also a Taijutsu user.
Lee didn't land a blow on Kimimaro???
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Going by ur hype logic,Jiraya said that no one can beat Tsunade in a hand to hand combat battle,so there is hope for him to stand a chance against Tsunade.
There is no need for her to punch him,She can make him immobile just with single touch like she did to Kabuto here

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Kimi had no counter for this unless u think he can find a way like Kabuto.
She can just stop his chakra flow with single touch due to which he can use any of his KKg abilities or any ninjutsu's.
He is not going to tank her attacks unless u think that his body is stronger than Susanoo.
^^^^Game over for Kimimaro.
In order to win against Tsunade he need to finish her even b4 she managed to hit him or touch him since it is as good impossible for a close range fighter,Kimi ain't going to win this.
Iam not going to rep again as I don't want to support Tsunade,if u still disagree just say so ,don't even need any explination.

IM done here.

1) Read your scans. Lee landed that hit because it was too unpredictable. Nothing else. Tsunade has no unpredictable drunken fist.

2) Kabuto already beat up tsunade and had a bout with Kakashi. That same kabuto said kimimaro was basically invincible. The same kabuto oro said was around kakashi's level (Anbu jounin). And, the same kabuto kakashi said he'd need a team to take on.

3) She only hit kabuto because he was immobile with his eyes closed. If you'd read the manga you'd have noticed the part when kabuto, who tsunade said was probably a better medic than her (because of his scalpels), stated that it's near impossible to properly hit someone with these types of techs in combat because they're too precise. So this nonsense people like to state that "Tsunade can perfectly hit the correct nerve behind her opponents neck in mid combat" is completely wrong.

4) here's your speed proof.
Tsunade

Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
Third 5 5 3.5 5 5 3.5 4 4 35


Lee

Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
First 0.5 3.5 0.5 1.5 3 4 3 1 17
Second 0.5 4 0.5 1.5 3.5 4 3 1 18
Third 0.5 5 1 2 4.5 4.5 3.5 1 22


Haku


Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals Total
First 3.5 1 1 4 1.5 4 2 4 21



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Speed is not the only variant in a battle. Tactics, strategies, experience play a big role during a Shinobi battle, and those are skills that Tsunade has much more developed than Kimmimaro.
Lol? Tactics and strategy? Is tsunade going to bore him to death? There's nothing going on here but punch and kick your opponent till they die. None of them have spectacular ninjutsu; They're both just taijutsu. Tsunade's going to throw boulders are his steel bones and hope the lord helps her? Lol

Then Kabuto is a really bad psychic because he died some chapters after that, even if they didn't defeat him, Lee and Gaara were victorious...
This would make any sense if he didn't die to an incurable disease that kabuto was trying to prolong his death against :|

Kabuto escaped from Kakashi, and used Tsunade's blood's fear to defeat her, other way he would have lost, clever but coward...
Kakashi still to him. so...
It doesn't even matter how he defeated tsunade seeing as he was a 2 in taijutsu and a 3 in speed. The guy was complete garbage in CQC
 

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Tsunade wins mid difficulty. I'd like to prove this but unfortunately, I don't have the time and a lot of people use no limits fallacies in regards to Kimimaro's durability, speed, taijutsu prowess and supposed healing abilities.
 
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