[VS] Tsunade vs Kakuzu and hidan

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Itachistyle you are an awful debater honestly. You constantly use the logical fallacies of straw man arguments, red herring fallacies, and appeal to ignorance fallacies.
 

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1. Sorry, I thought we are talking about Tsunade.
2. Tsunade was near the epicenter. Due to her perfect chakra control, she can jump higher then the normal ninjas. Remember when in the part1 she jumped high enough with Gamabunta's sword to deal with Manda.
So the Anbu next to her also survived due to their Chakra control? That doesn't make much sense, they merely ran, started from the Hokages office when Deva was already up in the sky for using the big Shinra Tensei, and the place they started to run was at Konohas edge, where the faces of the Hokage are. It's also not rare that Ninja can jump to a respectable height. I'm wondering how Tsunade could jump up anyway if being in the epicenter of Shinra Tensei, if Shinra Tenseis force would push her in the opposite direction down to the ground. If you notice, the crater of Konohas center was deeper than Gamabunta is large.
 
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With Katsuyu of course she wins. The slug stomps Hidan while he laughs like a maniac, and Tsunade can defeat Kakuzu, plus with Katsuyu help even better chances.
First off let me start by saying your reason for tsunade winning is hidan sitting there laughing the whole time -_- no katsuyu is not an offensive summon shes slow and hidan can easily deal with her im not going in to how kakuzu beats tsunade one on one
 

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Nobody has replied to this I see.

um tsunade does not have durability all that well and hes not good at close range fighting please go watch his arc again PLEASE he took on kakashi hand to hand combat and beat the **** out of choji and he can dodge reaallllyy well ( he could dodge shikamarus shadow stiching) now he also is incredibly fast as well now tsunade withstanding a direct attack from wind pressure or false darkness or searing migraine is not possible dodging isnt either shes a close range fighter so she cant run from it and besides people say earth spear is kakuzus greatest defense ... it really isnt earth grundge fear most if shes about to hit him he can have tenticals sprout from his body and catch her hand before impact then procedding to smash her with an earth spear hand tsunade does not win and by the way you assume shes attacking them one on one their together kakashi stated their almost unstoppable together so i dont know why people say their the weakest akatsuki duo their chemisty is by far the greatest ( when it comes to battleing together)
 

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Itachistyle you are an awful debater honestly. You constantly use the logical fallacies of straw man arguments, red herring fallacies, and appeal to ignorance fallacies.

lmao i love debating with itachistyle lol hes a great debater better then me you or tsunade slug princess so dont go pulling that sore loser crap because you have nothing more to say
 

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So the Anbu next to her also survived due to their Chakra control? That doesn't make much sense, they merely ran, started from the Hokages office when Deva was already up in the sky for using the big Shinra Tensei, and the place they started to run was at Konohas edge, where the faces of the Hokage are. It's also not rare that Ninja can jump to a respectable height. I'm wondering how Tsunade could jump up anyway if being in the epicenter of Shinra Tensei, if Shinra Tenseis force would push her in the opposite direction down to the ground. If you notice, the crater of Konohas center was deeper than Gamabunta is large.

You must be using a strawman of some sort, because it almost makes the pro-Tsunade side sound ridiculous... maybe all her Anbu guards were also super durable...
 

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um tsunade does not have durability all that well and hes not good at close range fighting please go watch his arc again
Tsunade is well regarded for her hand to hand combat prowess... it's one of the things making her Hokage.

PLEASE he took on kakashi hand to hand combat and beat the **** out of choji and he can dodge reaallllyy well ( he could dodge shikamarus shadow stiching)
Are we talking about Kakuzu or Hidan... I'm going to assume Kakuzu. Kakuzu is decent enough sometimes... and other times he gets nailed by fodder nin. He's all over the place as a hand to hand combatant to be honest, one minute he does decently, the next minute he's nailed by utter fodder. He wasn't exactly fighting Kakashi alone either, and Kakashi is alot stronger now. Choji isn't a good example for you, he's hardly famed for his agility. Choji is famed for his "hulk smash" strength.

now he also is incredibly fast as well now tsunade withstanding a direct attack from wind pressure or false darkness or searing migraine is not possible
I see no reason Tsunade can't tank it... she can tank Madara's attacks (repeatedly). Are you suggesting Kakuzu's attacks are stronger than Madara's? There's really no reason to think she won't just wade through it, regenerating as she does, and when she gets close punch Kakuzu's head off. She's able to leap huge distances (see the knife she throws against Manda), even while carrying huge objects. Dodging the wind blast we saw shouldn't be tough, and once she gets to close range Kakuzu is toast.

Not to mention Katsuyu can screen her some, and fire huge globs of Lava too. I doubt Kakuzu's attacks are going to take down Katsuyu in a hurry (if at all), and she has huge range), all while Tsunade is bearing down on him. Hidan is irrelevant because he'll be taken out moments into the fight.

dodging isnt either shes a close range fighter so she cant run from it
She became Hokage on the basis of her close range fighting. Her speciality is close range fighting. She was able to fight off 5 of Madara's Susanoo clones with close range fighting. But she can also jump hundreds of feet into the air while carrying a giant knife that looks to weight several hundred tonnes at least. The idea she can't dodge comes off as silly.

and besides people say earth spear is kakuzus greatest defense ... it really isnt earth grundge fear most if shes about to hit him he can have tenticals sprout from his body and catch her hand before impact then procedding to smash her with an earth spear hand tsunade does not win
Ok, firstly your grammar is really bad, it's hard to even follow your arguments sometimes. Full stops are your friend. Secondly, all that means is a few extra targets for her to paste (or Katsuyu to bathe in acid, which should one shot them based on Tenten taking out 2-3 hearts with a single fan swipe). Tenticals only matter to normal people, not to super strong (very durable) ones who can rip them out and regen from any injury... if anything they help Tsunade, since she can pull Kakuzu closer with the tentacles, and crush him faster.

and by the way you assume shes attacking them one on one their together kakashi stated their almost unstoppable together so i dont know why people say their the weakest akatsuki duo their chemisty is by far the greatest ( when it comes to battleing together)

Some hyperbolic remark is meaningless. Haku's jutsu was "unstoppable!"... until it was stopped. Just like Kakashi tells us in the ramen bar after this fight "if you hadn't arrived... I'd have had to stop it with Kamui". So much for unstoppable.
 

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yes about the hyperbolic remarks they were un beaten together every "hyperbolic remark" was proven wrong ... but the fact that they are unstoppable together their undefeated if you ask me. and he would of had to stop just kakuzu with kamui not together and with his skill so shaky back i doubt it would of actually stopped him. Even if it did he would of died of chakra exhaustion as he was already running low .
 

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And you're wrong. Tsunade stomps these guys, as I explained in detail.
 

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wow they really need to improve the rep bar you cant give me bad rep because im not a rude selfish sore loser like you? but its whatever i guess that your the awful debater here you can use all the big words you want . But that still just makes you look like even more of an idiot TAZILLA
 

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And you're wrong. Tsunade stomps these guys, as I explained in detail.

nah sory man it just doesnt happen tsunade could stomp about.... almost all the leaf jonin ( except kakashi) k11 except naruto and sasuke but no one kage level she is not that strong!!
 

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nah sory man it just doesnt happen tsunade could stomp about.... almost all the leaf jonin ( except kakashi) k11 except naruto and sasuke but no one kage level she is not that strong!!

Why are you keep saying she is "not that strong"? Hanzo gave her the Legendary Sannin title. Jiraiya wanted her to be the next Hokage. Madara admitted she is not weak, and she is deserves her title as a Kage.
And even Tsunade said: I'm not weak" and 'I'm not just a medical ninja"
 

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Why are you keep saying she is "not that strong"? Hanzo gave her the Legendary Sannin title. Jiraiya wanted her to be the next Hokage. Madara admitted she is not weak, and she is deserves her title as a Kage.
And even Tsunade said: I'm not weak" and 'I'm not just a medical ninja"

The Sannin could barely keep up with Hanzou, latter gave them their lives and the title of Sannin as he acknowledged their potential, even presently, Jiraiya called Hanzou invincible as he acknowledged his power, yet Mifune was on pair with him. Tsunade is indeed a strong Shinobi, but Kakuzu has a fair chance to solo her. If the creature with the Fuuton and Katon mask, able to use the two elements separately and together, will fight Katsuyu, Kakuzu with his Doton and Jiongu, along with the creatures with the Suiton and Raiton mask, would most likely overwhelm Tsunade. After Katsuyu is beaten, Tsunade will have to deal with all creatures.
 

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Katsuyu got roasted and kakuzu elemental combinations finish tsunade. Hidan ain't needed. And lol @ katsuyu a slug takin on an acrobat like hidan.
 

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Katsuyu got roasted and kakuzu elemental combinations finish tsunade. Hidan ain't needed. And lol @ katsuyu a slug takin on an acrobat like hidan.

Not 1 slug. 99 + mini slugs. Do you know what it means? Can you imagine 99 dog sized slugs? I hope you can.
 

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Kakuzu and Hidan take this.

Even with Katsuyu's help, Tsunade can't get to Kakuzu. The range and piercing power of his threads negate any kind of close combat she might try to put up, not to mention the blasts of the elemental masks, which would be immensely hard to get past, considering their range and power. All in all, she wouldn't be able to pull of a punch on Kakuzu without getting pierced by his threads, or blasted by his masks.

Not to mention the fact that if she gets close to Kakuzu, the range and piercing prowess of the threads are exceptionally handy when trying to obtain blood, and we all know how dangerous it can be if Hidan gets your blood. If he needs to, he could even go as far as starting to cut off limbs, seeing as Kakuzu can fix them with the threads.

All in all, their teamwork will beat her, mid-high diff.
 

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The Sannin could barely keep up with Hanzou, latter gave them their lives and the title of Sannin as he acknowledged their potential, even presently, Jiraiya called Hanzou invincible as he acknowledged his power, yet Mifune was on pair with him. Tsunade is indeed a strong Shinobi, but Kakuzu has a fair chance to solo her. If the creature with the Fuuton and Katon mask, able to use the two elements separately and together, will fight Katsuyu, Kakuzu with his Doton and Jiongu, along with the creatures with the Suiton and Raiton mask, would most likely overwhelm Tsunade. After Katsuyu is beaten, Tsunade will have to deal with all creatures.

Barely keep up with Hanzo... oh dear. You should read this thread:


Is Kakuzu's offensive output comparable to Madara's? No? Then why should we be assuming he will "put her down" when she's out and out tanking what Madara is doing to her. Ridiculous.
 

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Tsunade is one of the few characters who laughs at Hidan... plus he'll be out of the fight in momemnts, so it's not like he'll he helping later.
 

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lmao your last two posts include no reason for tsunade to win. And stop saying were comparing kakuzu to madara the madara she took down was a clone -_- besides 6 paths gave the perfect reason why kakuzu and hidan win
 
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