Tsunade VS kakashi

[hokutoshinken]

1. Yes, she can keep up with Kakashi, maybe not the entire match but for the time she needs to execute her plan she can. Also Kakashi can't run for the whole match either, he can probably outrun Tsunade for a couple of minutes due to his pitiful stamina. This also alters how many strong attacks he can perform later in the battle.
2. Yes, she is reputed for her fighting skills and monster strength. (Taijutsu)
3. Her "healing techniques"..as degrading as that sounds, involve the Creation Rebirth which takes only a few seconds to activate. This provides constant recreation of cells and organs and also provides an immense amount of chajra for the user to do whatever she wants (Yin Seal: Release).
4. If Tsunade, for some reason, let's Kakashi in close range (where she has the advantage) and also gives him the time to perform a Kamui..she can still recover almost instantly. This is assuming she stands still like an idiot and doesn't try to evade it after he performs it. This is situation is very unlikely, because all she needs is one good punch or one of her electrical waves to reach Kakashi (immediately paralyzing him). Even if this unlikely scenario takes place, she can still recover and keep battling while Kakashi is wasting chakra and stamina.

Tsunade has more chances of winning.

pitiful stanima?don't underestimate kakashi,he know very well about tsunade's abilitty.kakashi has a good stanima 3 just like hiruzen,if you look at pein's fight he was able to do
4 raikiri
1 doton
1 lighting beast
and said that tooks 50% of his chakra,then he did
1 more raikiri
1 more doton
2 kamui

and since kakashi seems to get used with his sharingan,it seems that the sharingan got less influence than before on his body since first part.
tsunade is late she can make any plan she want ,she can't touch kakashi who got sahringan and is by far fastest than her

.and no in close middle range,kakashi got advantage , if you look at last time kakashi used kamui,it was against tobi at close range,he was ready to send him in an other dimension until tobi said that it doesn't affect him.

if she don't have high genjutsu skills,high speed or tobi's ability ,there is no way for her to dodge kamui in close range.you talk about kamui like if it's a late jutsu... you do not realize it's instant hit ,the moment tsunade would come at close fight kakashi just has to activate kamui in a fraction of second just like the susanoo arrow that is big like 3 human.
notice that kakashi never missed to aim the target unless vs deidara but he said himself that he had problem to control location and the barrier limiting area and still he his arm and solved this problem vs pein and sasuke's arrow.

kakashi win this.

 

[sG Taka]

pitiful stanima?don't underestimate kakashi,he know very well about tsunade's abilitty.kakashi has a good stanima 3 just like hiruzen,if you look at pein's fight he was able to do
4 raikiri
1 doton
1 lighting beast
and said that tooks 50% of his chakra,then he did
1 more raikiri
1 more doton
2 kamui

and since kakashi seems to get used with his sharingan,it seems that the sharingan got less influence than before on his body since first part.
tsunade is late she can make any plan she want ,she can't touch kakashi who got sahringan and is by far fastest than her

.and no in close middle range,kakashi got advantage , if you look at last time kakashi used kamui,it was against tobi at close range,he was ready to send him in an other dimension until tobi said that it doesn't affect him.

if she don't have high genjutsu skills,high speed or tobi's ability ,there is no way for her to dodge kamui in close range.you talk about kamui like if it's a late jutsu... you do not realize it's instant hit ,the moment tsunade would come at close fight kakashi just has to activate kamui in a fraction of second just like the susanoo arrow that is big like 3 human.
notice that kakashi never missed to aim the target unless vs deidara but he said himself that he had problem to control location and the barrier limiting area and still he his arm and solved this problem vs pein and sasuke's arrow.

kakashi win this.

1. Kakashi doesn't win anything, you just think he has better chances.
2. What happened after Kakashi did all that against Pain? He died, he can't go all out like that against Tsunade.
3. Every attack you have mentioned (except for maybe a Kamui to the brain) Tsunade can recover with her Creation Rebirth. Kakashi will be just spamming Raikiri and Doton's while Tsunade is either dodging to then attack, or healing and attacking at the same time. Kakashi would en up without chakra while Tsunade is still fresh due to her Yin Seal: Release technique. Plus Kakashi's Sharigan would be wearing him out, so Tsunade would then proceed to take the offensive.
4. Kakashi is not going to use Kamui at first, that's stupid and highly risky, so supposing he decides to go with Raikiri Tsunade can just take the hit to the chest or wherever to then use her electrical waves (which immediately paralyzes Kakashi) or to land a very good punch which would put her in a great advantage.
5. Tsunade still has her summon, which can work offensively as well as deffensively. Offensively speaking, she summons Katsuyu (giant form) and attack with Sticky Acid or any other attack. Deffensively speaking, she summons it giant form to then divide it into a million little slugs that would attack Kakashi with Acid Launches, heal Tsunade or block attacks from Kakashi. With this in the battlefield, Kakashi would have a VERY difficult, practically impossible time to execute a well-performed Kamui due to the barriers and the amount of obstacles blocking Tsunade.
6. It would be a good fight, I just think Tsunade would end up victorious. However, you do bring about some good points.
7. Tsunade might not be exremely good at Genjutsu, but she can easily escape from one. (Besides, it is a fact that she has performed successfully occular jutsus to bandits and such, but i'm not going to include that because there is very little information regarding her Genjutsu abilities.)

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Kamui doesn't hit easily!
He has to have a very clear shot at her if he will successfully land it, lets face it every time he has landed a kamui it has been on a still target or one moving straight forward towards him, when chasing deidera he tried to use it but missed, but he hit him when deidera was standing still, the bow from sasuke's susano'o was going perfectly straight towards him when he sucked it up, as was the nail that one of the pains fired at him, the only time i can think of him hitting a moving target going away from him is when he saved choji

Kakashi got a nail that was faster than any jutsu Tsunade has shown... and this was in an exhausted state.

You are basing your Kamui statistics too much on his fight with Deidara, when in reality, he's improved.

Kakashi wins because other than Tsunades' Creation Rebirth, he is her worst nightmare as someone who has greater speed, the Sharingan, and long range jutsu.

Tsunade would have to lure him into close range before doing anything.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Until proven otherwise, I will always go with a Kage over any Jonin.People get too wrap up in what they have been shown with Shinobi like Kakashi, forgetting the fact that leaders (Kages) rarely fight.If it wasn't for the Kage Summit and Kishi having to show off Sasuke's MS, we would have never seen Onoki,A,or Mei,fight until the shinobi war started.

 

[sG Taka]

Kakashi got a nail that was faster than any jutsu Tsunade has shown... and this was in an exhausted state.

You are basing your Kamui statistics too much on his fight with Deidara, when in reality, he's improved.

Kakashi wins because other than Tsunades' Creation Rebirth, he is her worst nightmare as someone who has greater speed, the Sharingan, and long range jutsu.

Tsunade would have to lure him into close range before doing anything.

What do you mean "other than Tsunade's Creation Rebirth" ? That makes practically all of Kakashi's ninjutsu useless as she is constantly healing cells and organs. Also, "other than that" she has Katsuyu and Taijutsu which I explained and gave strategies for in my earlier post.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

I gave up on this thread. Too many Kakashi fan-boys in denial and too many "I'd have to go with Kakashi" and offer no explanation whatsoever. Dumb people that think Kakashi has better Taijustsu or that think that Tsunade's Yin Seal: Release, Creation Rebirth and Katsuyu are useless will never understand our arguments. Kakashi fan-boys think Kakashi can perform multiple ninjutsu and occular jutsus in one match..he can't he has pitiful chakra reserves along with a weak stamina. They also think Kamui is a God-Jutsu that can't be evaded and that can be performed with extreme ease. They look down upon Tsunade. The people who think Tsunade would have more chances of winning, offer lengthy, practical and correct (in respect with Narutoverse) for their choice. I have written too many paragraphs supporting Tsunade. I'm done.

Then there are the Tsunade *****-worshippers who don't realize that not only does Creation Rebirth have a time limit, but it leaves her as a hag shortly afterwards. She was in a coma for how long after releasing everything against Pain? Tsunade has a decent supply of chakra, but she's not a powerhouse of chakra herself either. She lacks the ninjutsu ability to hit Kakashi from a distance, and Kakashi has better than average taijutsu himself and more speed to evade Tsunade. Sharingan on top of that.

Kakashi also has fair genjutsu abilities. We have yet to see Tsunade counter genjutsu.

Tsunade has been in one fight where we haven't seen her full power, but based on what we've seen so far, Kakashi wins this.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Then there are the Tsunade *****-worshippers who don't realize that not only does Creation Rebirth have a time limit, but it leaves her as a hag shortly afterwards. She was in a coma for how long after releasing everything against Pain? Tsunade has a decent supply of chakra, but she's not a powerhouse of chakra herself either. She lacks the ninjutsu ability to hit Kakashi from a distance, and Kakashi has better than average taijutsu himself and more speed to evade Tsunade. Sharingan on top of that.

Kakashi also has fair genjutsu abilities. We have yet to see Tsunade counter genjutsu.

Tsunade has been in one fight where we haven't seen her full power, but based on what we've seen so far, Kakashi wins this.

is doesnt leave her a hag immediatly you idiot have you not seen the latest chapters the only reason it did at orochimaru's fight is because she wasted most of her chakra already and used her last bit for that jutsu. at the invassion she did it on a large scale for everyone so off course she would lose her chakra.

 

[hokutoshinken]

1. Kakashi doesn't win anything, you just think he has better chances.
2. What happened after Kakashi did all that against Pain? He died, he can't go all out like that against Tsunade.
3. Every attack you have mentioned (except for maybe a Kamui to the brain) Tsunade can recover with her Creation Rebirth. Kakashi will be just spamming Raikiri and Doton's while Tsunade is either dodging to then attack, or healing and attacking at the same time. Kakashi would en up without chakra while Tsunade is still fresh due to her Yin Seal: Release technique. Plus Kakashi's Sharigan would be wearing him out, so Tsunade would then proceed to take the offensive.
4. Kakashi is not going to use Kamui at first, that's stupid and highly risky, so supposing he decides to go with Raikiri Tsunade can just take the hit to the chest or wherever to then use her electrical waves (which immediately paralyzes Kakashi) or to land a very good punch which would put her in a great advantage.
5. Tsunade still has her summon, which can work offensively as well as deffensively. Offensively speaking, she summons Katsuyu (giant form) and attack with Sticky Acid or any other attack. Deffensively speaking, she summons it giant form to then divide it into a million little slugs that would attack Kakashi with Acid Launches, heal Tsunade or block attacks from Kakashi. With this in the battlefield, Kakashi would have a VERY difficult, practically impossible time to execute a well-performed Kamui due to the barriers and the amount of obstacles blocking Tsunade.
6. It would be a good fight, I just think Tsunade would end up victorious. However, you do bring about some good points.
7. Tsunade might not be exremely good at Genjutsu, but she can easily escape from one. (Besides, it is a fact that she has performed successfully occular jutsus to bandits and such, but i'm not going to include that because there is very little information regarding her Genjutsu abilities.)

why compare pein to tsunade?pein would destroy her . he rekognized kakashi's skills wheareas when he faced tsunade it was like anybody.he just need 1 kamui at close range and it will be fatal for tsunade.

do you think that kakashi is enough idiot to waste his chakra since he know that tsunade is able too heal at molecular level?
kakashi is very smart again,it seems that you don't realize it.

the only reason kakashi will win is that he got mangekyou,if he didn't have kamui i would vote tie.again kakashi don't need time to use kamui.
he just need keep her on midle/close range and focus on tsunade with eye for a fraction .

 

[sG Taka]

Then there are the Tsunade *****-worshippers who don't realize that not only does Creation Rebirth have a time limit, but it leaves her as a hag shortly afterwards. She was in a coma for how long after releasing everything against Pain? Tsunade has a decent supply of chakra, but she's not a powerhouse of chakra herself either. She lacks the ninjutsu ability to hit Kakashi from a distance, and Kakashi has better than average taijutsu himself and more speed to evade Tsunade. Sharingan on top of that.

Kakashi also has fair genjutsu abilities. We have yet to see Tsunade counter genjutsu.

Tsunade has been in one fight where we haven't seen her full power, but based on what we've seen so far, Kakashi wins this.

It's not only the fact that she didn't go into a coma the moment after Creation Rebirth wore off but the amount of people she saved; she saved thousands of villagers, she saved a whole village. Obviously she is not going to use her Creation Rebirth to that extent with Kakashi. It's like saying Kakashi is gonna go all out and die of exhaustion and no chakra just like he did with Pain. They must conserve themselves.

No. Kakashi's taijutsu is not better than Tsunade's. Even the official databook supports my claim. As for your other arguments..I've already stated my point in my earlier posts, check them if you like.

 

[Alkaiser]

I was not even going to comment again on this thread but people here are being extremely disrespectful to one of my favorite characters. Tsunade would destroy kakashi in a nutshell. I have heard the rumors that kakashi is better than her with taijutsu which is so not true lol. People tell me this have kakashi ever killed someone with just mere taijutsu?. The answer to that question is no. The top taijutsu users are tsunade and Gai and those two actually defeated there opponents with taijutsu now moving on. Kakashi Genjutsu is not that superior I mean come on sakura was able to release his mere genjutsu skills and secondly kakashi is not even a genjutsu type so saying that he is better than tsunade with genjutsu is pushing it. Thirdly kakashi ninjutsu is pretty much higher than the princess but its not enough to destroy her and even he knows that. The only way for kakashi to defeat tsunade is his kamui and that two is risky if he misses.

To all these kakashi fan-boys tell me please how the hell can kakshi defeat a huge animal which happen to be a slug. The slugs are use for healing and also defense. It was shown in the manga chapter when Pein destroyed the leaf village the slug covered everyone to reduce the damage so that it can save lives. If her slug is attached to her shoulders there is no way that kakashi can pierced her body because katsyu has a powerful defense mechanism that was use to stop pein from eliminating the village shinobi's. It can also grow in size and use acidic attacks against kakashi to wore him out. Tsunade dont even have to fight kakashi she can just summon slugs to the field and stay on top of its back and allow it to do all the work lmao.

Thirdly kakashi I must say is a powerful jonin incredible with speed and intelligence but feuding him with tsuande is pushing it. All kakashi opponents were at kage level except for Zabuza and he was the only one that kakashi actually defeated on his own but the others he lost. He cannot fight one pein and survive he even had help from chouji and his father. let say tsunade was in his position as the hokage she would of done a way better job and atleast survive and protect chouji and his dad. I love kakashi character,! Man he is awesome but he is no way on a level with any of the legendary sannins

The slug will die to Salt no justu

You forget that yes he did manage to take down 1 pain with help, and 2 he was a mere milisecond away from taking down yahikos body, all of this was without information b4 hand, naruto couldn't beat him without the fox even knowing the window of oppertunity. Tsuande has no way to defeat pein on her own she would have lost just like Kakashi.

 

[sG Taka]

why compare pein to tsunade?pein would destroy her . he rekognized kakashi's skills wheareas when he faced tsunade it was like anybody.he just need 1 kamui at close range and it will be fatal for tsunade.

do you think that kakashi is enough idiot to waste his chakra since he know that tsunade is able too heal at molecular level?
kakashi is very smart again,it seems that you don't realize it.

the only reason kakashi will win is that he got mangekyou,if he didn't have kamui i would vote tie.again kakashi don't need time to use kamui.
he just need keep her on midle/close range and focus on tsunade with eye for a fraction .

I'm not comparing Tsunade to Pain, I'm just stating that he cannot fight the same way..with her or with anybody because he will die..again. For the millionth time, Tsunade can heal from a Kamui from close range! Kakashi is smart indeed, but Tsunade is wiser and has more experience. She's live through more wars and has been Kage. They way she successfully reacted and devised a strategy so quick when her village was being attacked by a renowned critically dangerous organization and her people were dying one by one is admirable. Kakashi's genjutsu could be effective, yes, however that is if he catches her and even if he does, Tsunade has a good chance at resisting it and getting out of it. But, again, any damage inflicted can be almost instantly healed and she could just not get trapped.

 

[sG Taka]

The slug will die to Salt no justu

You forget that yes he did manage to take down 1 pain with help, and 2 he was a mere milisecond away from taking down yahikos body, all of this was without information b4 hand, naruto couldn't beat him without the fox even knowing the window of oppertunity. Tsuande has no way to defeat pein on her own she would have lost just like Kakashi.

What? Your first argument is stupid and not funny.
Second, what do you get from "Tsunade would've died just like Kakashi"?
Third, Tsunade could've defeated 1+ Pains with help, just like Kakashi was striving to do.

 

[TheCheesasaurus]

Obviously, he has improved, but i'm talking about him placing entire bodies into another dimension.

If he could he would have done it against Pain.

good point broskie. Anyways i go for tsunade, just saying kakashi might have a chance who knows. he is a bad ass.

 

[simonsez0800]

well kakashi have said that tsunande is a better hokage then he is when they try to make kakashi hokage

 

[Rubber Guy]

tsunade sama 'll win this :y

 

[siyo]

good point broskie. Anyways i go for tsunade, just saying kakashi might have a chance who knows. he is a bad ass.

thx bro. Kakashi obviously got a chance against everybody,he is kage level as well.

 

[believe7]

The slug will die to Salt no justu

You forget that yes he did manage to take down 1 pain with help, and 2 he was a mere milisecond away from taking down yahikos body, all of this was without information b4 hand, naruto couldn't beat him without the fox even knowing the window of oppertunity. Tsuande has no way to defeat pein on her own she would have lost just like Kakashi.

Are u kidding me bro u think she would of died against him u are very biased and also a huge fan of kakashi. Hmmmm he had helped and the reason why one of the peins got defeated is because it came in front of the other pein and defend him by blocking him from kakashi's lightening blade. Kakashi got tired so fast it was ashamed to see all that hype and talent went to vanity and pride. Tsunade would of defeated both those peins in an instant and salt no jutsu never heard of it so stop applying moves that dont exist to make kakashi looks cool cause it dont. Jirayia fought all 6 peins and survived for a moment until he was not able to continue and died a heroic death giving info to his ally tsunade while kakashi could of barely take down one. Tsunade is a sannin and the world knows her by that name and killing her wont be easy so u are wrong to even think that one pein can destroy her. ]

 

[Shinozgr8]

tsunade would win...i hate seeing kakashi all hyped up by all his stans, when he barely lives up to the hype! this man has supposed copied over 1000 jutsu. but we only see him use not even two handful!!! why??? you tell me. his stamina is far below tsunade's. besides, tsunade is a senju. against not even an uchiha. case closed. what good would his summons be against tsunade's? what good would kamui be if even oro escaped from it? long distance jutsu? tsunade could easily pick up a huge chunk of the earth and intercept all his jutsu.

 

[Sage of Infinity Paths]

Tsunade is a bitch!!!

 

[kakuzu49]

I'm not comparing Tsunade to Pain, I'm just stating that he cannot fight the same way..with her or with anybody because he will die..again. For the millionth time, Tsunade can heal from a Kamui from close range! Kakashi is smart indeed, but Tsunade is wiser and has more experience. She's live through more wars and has been Kage. They way she successfully reacted and devised a strategy so quick when her village was being attacked by a renowned critically dangerous organization and her people were dying one by one is admirable. Kakashi's genjutsu could be effective, yes, however that is if he catches her and even if he does, Tsunade has a good chance at resisting it and getting out of it. But, again, any damage inflicted can be almost instantly healed and she could just not get trapped.

of course he won't fight the same way,fighting tsunade is a lot easier than fighting pein ...using kamui doesn't mean that he will fight the same way.kaakshi use it as attack (deidara,tobi) and as defense (pein,sasuke) .against tsunade he'd use as attack .
tsunade can't heal herself if kakashi kamui the whole body or head he was able to kamui a susanoo arrow of the size of 3 human and that is faster than most of ninjas in naruto... she don't have the speed to dodge at close range .