Tsunade vs Hidan

[KidGamer65]

First off, Hitting the ground usually causes the person to fall, not fly up into the sky, Second how acidic is this Acid anyways does it have any feats, As Hidan can regenerate if it only melts the skin

Sakura and the Juubi fodder disagree with you. If you hit the ground the impact will cause rocks to fly up along with anyone in the vicinity, exactly what happened with the Juubi fodder.

First of all, acid is acid. Second of all it

You must be registered for see links

Hidan gets melted into a pile of nothing.

 

[Zexion~]

Sakura and the Juubi fodder disagree with you. If you hit the ground the impact will cause rocks to fly up along with anyone in the vicinity, exactly what happened with the Juubi fodder.

First of all, acid is acid. Second of all it

You must be registered for see links

Hidan gets melted into a pile of nothing.

Some acid only melts the skin .... Second that was a punch that contained chakra that was stored for 3 years i believe, Doubt tsunade is resorting to that,

You must be registered for see links

No giant blast here

You must be registered for see links

 

[KidGamer65]

Some acid only melts the skin .... Second that was a punch that contained chakra that was stored for 3 years i believe, Doubt tsunade is resorting to that,

You must be registered for see links

No giant blast here

You must be registered for see links

lol? Activating the Yin Seal took 3 years. Obviously she didn't use up all her stored chakra on one punch. What's the point of the scan of her cracking the ground with a finger? That only helps my point of her being strong enough to do this.


Clearly Sakura wasn't strong enough to do so. When she was strong enough to do so we saw what happened. Juubi clones went flying in the air.

 

[Zexion~]

lol? Activating the Yin Seal took 3 years. Obviously she didn't use up all her stored chakra on one punch. What's the point of the scan of her cracking the ground with a finger? That only helps my point of her being strong enough to do this.


Clearly Sakura wasn't strong enough to do so. When she was strong enough to do so we saw what happened. Juubi clones went flying in the air.

..But no one went flying , and again all he needs to do is jump backwards like this

You must be registered for see links

not so high as too get trapped but enough to escape the apparently damaging Punch to the earth :|

 

[KidGamer65]

..But no one went flying , and again all he needs to do is jump backwards like this

You must be registered for see links

not so high as too get trapped but enough to escape the apparently damaging Punch to the earth :|

Do you not see the Juubi clones going flying?

You must be registered for see links

lol, again with that? Jumping back like that isn't going to let him evade a punch with that kind of AoE. You'd have to be delusional to believe it would.

 

[Zexion~]

Do you not see the Juubi clones going flying?

You must be registered for see links

lol, again with that? Jumping back like that isn't going to let him evade a punch with that kind of AoE. You'd have to be delusional to believe it would.

First off they did not go flying purely because of the punch to earth, they were thrown up by the rocks being pushed above ground, So that is easily countered by shinobi who have the ability to walk on walls which i think we all know

Which Hidan has already shown he is capable of doing

You must be registered for see links

 

[KidGamer65]

First off they did not go flying purely because of the punch to earth, they were thrown up by the rocks being pushed above ground, So that is easily countered by shinobi who have the ability to walk on walls which i think we all know

Which Hidan has already shown he is capable of doing

You must be registered for see links

Obviously it wasn't purely to the punch to the earth.

Hidan isn't going to gather himself together when he's been sent flying meters up into the air before a counter attack can be made. All she needs to do is follow up with a second punch to send him right into the acid.

Or instead of punching Hidan up into the air like this. She can punch him straight into Katsuyu's acid and skip the whole "getting him into the air part"

Or she messes his movements up via Body Pathway Derangment and then kills him with the acid.

Tsunade has multiple ways of winning while Hidan has...none.

 

[Zexion~]

Obviously it wasn't purely to the punch to the earth.

Hidan isn't going to gather himself together when he's been sent flying meters up into the air before a counter attack can be made. All she needs to do is follow up with a second punch to send him right into the acid.

Or instead of punching Hidan up into the air like this. She can punch him straight into Katsuyu's acid and skip the whole "getting him into the air part"

Or she messes his movements up via Body Pathway Derangment and then kills him with the acid.

Tsunade has multiple ways of winning while Hidan has...none.

Well technically she has ONE Katsuyu's acid , How would she throw a second punch when the ground around her is being shifted ..not happening

Katsuyu's acid clearly is not percise when being spit so its not definite that hitting him into the air will even accomplish anything, Not to mention Hidan is clearly more skilled in CQC then Tsunade is, so honestly i can't even see her hitting him even with BPD, although i suppose if he gets hit with that its over ,however he may be able to recover from it

 

[KidGamer65]

Well technically she has ONE Katsuyu's acid , How would she throw a second punch when the ground around her is being shifted ..not happening

Katsuyu's acid clearly is not percise when being spit so its not definite that hitting him into the air will even accomplish anything, Not to mention Hidan is clearly more skilled in CQC then Tsunade is, so honestly i can't even see her hitting him even with BPD, although i suppose if he gets hit with that its over ,however he may be able to recover from it

Like I said. She doesn't need to hit him in the air, when she can hit him toward the acid. INSTEAD of hitting him into the air.

Hidan can't do anything to stop her from touching him. If she can punch him which she clearly can, she can land BPD. Saying she can't hit him is like saying she can never touch Hidan which is an extreme overestimation of Hidan's abilities.

No, he won't. Even if he could. By the time that happens he'll already have been melted into a pile of nothing.

 

[KidGamer65]

No it's not an exaggeration it is simply called stating facts.

Tsunade's speed: 3.5
Asuma's speed : 4.5

Yet Asuma wasn't able to land a single hit on Hidan even with Shikamaru helping him out with his shadow. Tsunade got demolished by part 1 Kabuto in CQC, knowing all of this, how do you expect her to land a hit on Hidan?

Tsunade from Part 1 got beaten by Kabuto. This is Tsunade from Part 2. Obvious difference is obvious.

Speed doesn't dictate the overall CQC ability.

 

[Zexion~]

Like I said. She doesn't need to hit him in the air, when she can hit him toward the acid. INSTEAD of hitting him into the air.

Hidan can't do anything to stop her from touching him. If she can punch him which she clearly can, she can land BPD. Saying she can't hit him is like saying she can never touch Hidan which is an extreme overestimation of Hidan's abilities.

No, he won't. Even if he could. By the time that happens he'll already have been melted into a pile of nothing.

Not really, Keeping up with a 3T- User in CQC is a rare feat to come across (when you do not have one of your own) Yet Hidan was able to do it multiple times,

Hidan has a 4.5 in Taijutsu with the feats to back it up , whereas Tsunade has a feat-less 5 simply because the sannin are completely overrated in the DB, saying that she can not touch him is not that far fetched .. if it is at all,
Besides if this was so easy why would she not use it on Kabuto when BPD was active..She had enough time to summon Katsuyu, this is a strategy she clearly does not like to use if we have only seen the acid once...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Wait, this is full intel?

Lmao.

Tsunade summons Katsuyu, jumps on her, and waits for Hidan to be melted.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not really, Keeping up with a 3T- User in CQC is a rare feat to come across (when you do not have one of your own) Yet Hidan was able to do it multiple times,

Hidan has a 4.5 in Taijutsu with the feats to back it up , whereas Tsunade has a feat-less 5 simply because the sannin are completely overrated in the DB, saying that she can not touch him is not that far fetched .. if it is at all,
Besides if this was so easy why would she not use it on Kabuto when BPD was active..She had enough time to summon Katsuyu, this is a strategy she clearly does not like to use if we have only seen the acid once...

Hidan isn't engaging her in CQC while completely avoiding her AoE punches to the ground without getting touched once. That's completely unrealistic. The moment she causes him to lose balance its over for him. He gets hit with BPD and melted by acid.

lol? Her not using against Kabuto is no excuse to say she won't do it on Hidan. Last time I checked Kabuto wasn't an immortal who had resistance to physical attacks.

There's no difference, her databook stats haven't changed the slightest bit

Tsunade has almost no CQC feats and since her speed is poor then she will have an even harder time landing a hit on Hidan. If you're not fast enough to hit him then you're screwed.

Its been stated that she was rusty. So yes there is a difference.

3.5 speed isn't poor. And like I said. Speed isn't the only factor in CQC so stop using the speed stat in a DB to say Hidan will never get hit, cause that is poor evidence.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Never understood why this is such a controversial match-up. Tsunade wins with medium-difficulty at the very most, but i'm not going to get into it; seeing as Hidan supporters always present weak arguments as to why he wins.

 

[KidGamer65]

How is that an excuse? I just can't imagine a "rusty" (whatever that means) Jiraiya getting demolished by part 1 Kabuto, same for Oro. She was simply inferior to part 1 Kabuto.

Speed surely is a factor when it comes to landing a hit on an opponent. If your attacks aren't fast and your feet speed is poor then it will be even harder to land a hit on your opponent.

Rusty means she wasn't as good as she normally is. So using her feats then for Part 2 Tsunade is flawed and invalid.

Never said speed wasn't a factor. I said its not the only factor. If you have AoE attacks you don't need speed to land a hit on the opponent.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Not really, Keeping up with a 3T- User in CQC is a rare feat to come across (when you do not have one of your own) Yet Hidan was able to do it multiple times,

Hidan has a 4.5 in Taijutsu with the feats to back it up , whereas Tsunade has a feat-less 5 simply because the sannin are completely overrated in the DB, saying that she can not touch him is not that far fetched .. if it is at all,
Besides if this was so easy why would she not use it on Kabuto when BPD was active..She had enough time to summon Katsuyu, this is a strategy she clearly does not like to use if we have only seen the acid once...

Tsunade

You must be registered for see links

, with the rest of the kage talking to madara, the distance to madara being

You must be registered for see links

. Then, She

You must be registered for see links

and guts him, when not even ay could do it at point blank[

You must be registered for see links

][

You must be registered for see links

].

Shushin is directly related to how much chakra you can push into your feet for a speed burst[

You must be registered for see links

][

You must be registered for see links

], tsunade has monster reserves and the best chakra control(allowing her to nuke areas with punches), hidan gets gutted from the start.

 

[Zexion~]

Hidan isn't engaging her in CQC while completely avoiding her AoE punches to the ground without getting touched once. That's completely unrealistic. The moment she causes him to lose balance its over for him. He gets hit with BPD and melted by acid.

lol? Her not using against Kabuto is no excuse to say she won't do it on Hidan. Last time I checked Kabuto wasn't an immortal who had resistance to physical attacks.



Its been stated that she was rusty. So yes there is a difference.

3.5 speed isn't poor. And like I said. Speed isn't the only factor in CQC so stop using the speed stat in a DB to say Hidan will never get hit, cause that is poor evidence.

Why do you think Tsunade can move around when she punches the ground but Hidan can't? AoE punches to the ground are not being combined with CQC, So he only has to dodge one after the other ..

@Agoodboy First off Madara could give two shits whether or not he got hurt, he was talking. Not to mention she was on a clear incline down, thats not speed its jumping down to Madara i don't think Hidan wins im just arguign because people make it sound so easy, however Tsunade is not fast that is for sure,

 

[pateuvasiliu]

That's not Tsunade's fighting style, she's a tank so she will engage him in CQC, not a long range fighter, try again, also show me a scan of Katsuyu spamming acid? She can't.

If she has full intel she has no reason to attack Hidan in melee.

 

[Chatte]

Do you not see the Juubi clones going flying?

You must be registered for see links

lol, again with that? Jumping back like that isn't going to let him evade a punch with that kind of AoE. You'd have to be delusional to believe it would.

They went flying because of the impact of the punch who acts like an explosion.
CES is a chakra explosion jutsu, so to speak.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Hidan dodges the acid and goes on top of Katsuyu where she can't use her AoE giving Hidan a huge advantage, that won't help her.

Oh yes, because Hidan is so fking fast.