Tsunade & Sakura VS. The Sound 5.

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15 pages and not a one decent argument on why Tsunade and Sakura win. Can't believe some of you call yourself fans.
Then you're just ignoring posts.

The fact is that anyone who thinks sound five wins just ignores Tsunade's feats or just calls them false.
Good debaters read what the other person says and tries to counter it. Now it's just using feats and the opposite saying "No". :D Intelligent!
 
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Then you're just ignoring posts.

The fact is that anyone who thinks sound five wins just ignores Tsunade's feats or just calls them false.
Good debaters read what the other person says and tries to counter it. Now it's just using feats and the opposite saying "No". :D Intelligent!
You actually had some of the worst arguments I've ever seen. Go away.
 

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Wow. Oh my,
tsunade counters sound genjutsu by screaming
tsunade is a mountain buster
we leanr new things everyday.

Oh and sound 5 rape. Not one descent argfument for tsunade and sakura AT ALL
 

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What the hell? If you're unable to hear the sound it obviously won't work. :|
The rasengan didn't do anything, it just stopped.
Tsunade can't tank a jinton unless it only grazes her and gets a leg/an arm or a part of either.

Besides, Tsunade has full knowledge here, too.
Read the manga pal. "Screaming" isn't doing jackshit to the sound genjutsu. Hell, Itachi,Sasuke, and Shikamaru couldn't stop the genjutsu by doing that. Only a Tsunade fapboy would come up with such nonsense. Unless of course you are claiming that her screams can create shockwaves/gusts of wind to repel the soundwaves, but then as Black Wolf already pointed out, Tsunade isn't the kyuubi.

Ribcage didn't tank the Rasengan. Madara levelled up his susanoo to a v2,and knocked naruto away before it the rasengan could explode. Stop claiming that Tsunade's punches are stronger than something that apparently "hollows mountains". That is simply baseless.
 

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Read the manga pal. "Screaming" isn't doing jackshit to the sound genjutsu. Hell, Itachi,Sasuke, and Shikamaru couldn't stop the genjutsu by doing that. Only a Tsunade fapboy would come up with such nonsense. Unless of course you are claiming that her screams can create shockwaves/gusts of wind to repel the soundwaves, but then as Black Wolf already pointed out, Tsunade isn't the kyuubi.

Ribcage didn't tank the Rasengan. Madara levelled up his susanoo to a v2,and knocked naruto away before it the rasengan could explode. Stop claiming that Tsunade's punches are stronger than something that apparently "hollows mountains". That is simply baseless.
What the hell? :D You say that for example ear plugs wouldn't work against it? If you force yourself not hear, by screaming/yelling/shouting as loud as you can continuously, you can't hear anything else. :| By simple logic it should work.
Other way could be just plugging your ear with your fingers and kicking sound five to death.

Your claim is even more baseless than mine though.
 

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What the hell? :D You say that for example ear plugs wouldn't work against it? If you force yourself not hear, by screaming/yelling/shouting as loud as you can continuously, you can't hear anything else. :| By simple logic it should work.
We've went over this already, I have no idea why you still carry on as if this argument is anything more than garbage. Even some of your fellow Tsunade apologists have pointed out how insanely stupid this is.

The Sound Genjutsu is not avoidable by "screaming." Kishimoto had Temari nuke a forest with one of the most powerful AOE Futons to date to dispel / blow away the Genjutsu. Tsunade isn't going to replicate that with her voice.

Shikimaru is the smartest person in the manga, and he didn't come up with "screaming" as a solution to the Genjutsu.

Other way could be just plugging your ear with your fingers and kicking sound five to death.
This is just as infeasible; shove your fingers in your ears with the radio on blast. You will still hear the radio, albeit muffled. You'd need specifically tailored earmuffs of some sort to completely shut out the sound, and that does not exist in Naruto verse. And even if it did work, the notion that Tsunade is going to fight Kimimaro without arms is just as lolworthy.
 

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Tsunade & Sakura take This
Tsunade can easily defeat Kimimaro by Replaying Sakura vs Madara Except with no Limbo The OP hasn't stated that Kimi is In prime so I'm suggesting he is Still chronically Ill meaning one Strike and it's down.Sakura can easily overpower Jirobo seeing she's much faster and stronger meaning if she strikes the ground I think she could take Half of them out.Sakon can be tricked by a simple Kawirimi and then get beheaded with a Chakra Scalpel.

Sakura summons a miniature Katsuyu that will stay on her shoulder.For Kidomaru's webs and acid mini Katsuyu's acid will probably dissolve any flying arrows or webs as this parry rages on Kidomaru will lose chakra knowing that if he keeps up he is going to ho over his limits He will then resort to CQC.Katsuyu then shoots a larger amount of acid the acid could be used as a mine for a few seconds.this will give an opening for Sakura to either Behead him with a chakra scalpel or crush his body with Õkashō.

Now for Tayuya her Genjutsu is incredibly strong BUT..
The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person.Sakura having precise CC can easily overcome this seeing that in PT1 she was able to Break Kabuto's Genjutsu how about now when she is developing the S-Rank pinnacle of chakra control seal.and was able to send Obito enough chakra to travel Continously through 6 dimension breaking Tayuya's Genjutsu is measly compared to that.

Another is through intense pain not caused by the genjutsu and utilising the resulting pain to bring their senses back in order (of the first two options, the latter seems more effective in most situations, or at least is the easiest).Like how Shikamaru broke his finger to escape Tayuya's Sakura can regenerate and heal from any damage that has occurred with Byakugo seeing she got a staff Lodged in her abdomen and didn't even flinch Breaking a finger is nothing.


Sakura was also trained in analysing meaning she will find out that her flute causes sound for the Genjutsu to work she will then try and find a way to block the sound (No Not Screaming!!)She'll probably try sending chakra to her ears which will stop sound waves from reaching her ears she will then fake being trapped Tauyua will come in with a Kunai to behead her like she did with Shika and like she did with Zetsu and Sasori Sakura Suprise attacks her and as we know her strikes are OHKO.

Conclusion:
Monster Strength Duo take this
Medium Diffuculty ^_^
 

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Tsunade & Sakura take This
You have literally reposted this three times. ( ) ( ) ( )

Tsunade can easily defeat Kimimaro by Replaying Sakura vs Madara Except with no Limbo
What is this supposed to mean? Madara chose not to move because he had Limbo. If he didn't have Limbo, he wouldn't have stood there and taken it. Unless you are implying Madara wasn't fast enough to dodge her or something, which would be an entirely separate lolworthy argument altogether.

The OP hasn't stated that Kimi is In prime so I'm suggesting he is Still chronically Ill meaning one Strike and it's down.
The OP hasn't stated that Tsunade is in her prime either, so can I take the liberty and assume she is laying on the ground bisected?

Sakura can easily overpower Jirobo seeing she's much faster and stronger meaning if she strikes the ground I think she could take Half of them out.Sakon can be tricked by a simple Kawirimi and then get beheaded with a Chakra Scalpel.
It isn't 1 vs. 1; its a team scenario where Sakura will be getting attacked by Sakon, Ukon, and Jirobo simultaneously while also getting sniped by Kidomaru's 120% arrows and getting Genjutsu'd from range by Tayuya.

You need to stop breaking it down into 1 vs. 1 fights if you want an accurate representation of what would happen here. Everyone knows that Sakura / Tsunade are individually superior to the other team (barring Kimimaro). Individual fights aren't what is happening here; you have a team effort of 5 people with full knowledge and a wide array of useful support abilities in an advantageous location with an advantageous starting distance.

Sakura summons a miniature Katsuyu that will stay on her shoulder.For Kidomaru's webs and acid mini Katsuyu's acid will probably dissolve any flying arrows or webs as this parry rages on Kidomaru will lose chakra knowing that if he keeps up he is going to ho over his limits He will then resort to CQC.Katsuyu then shoots a larger amount of acid the acid could be used as a mine for a few seconds.this will give an opening for Sakura to either Behead him with a chakra scalpel or crush his body with Õkashō.
So basically, what you're saying here is Katsuyu has the Byakugan and is faster than Neji.

Now for Tayuya her Genjutsu is incredibly strong BUT..
The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (Genjutsu Kai).
Kai isn't Genjutsu immunity; it is breaking out of Genjutsu once you are already in it. During that downtime that she is caught / immobilized by the Genjutsu, she is susceptible to getting torn apart by the other CQC fighters.

as well, and he still got caught by Tayuya.

Sakura can regenerate and heal from any damage that has occurred with Byakugo seeing she got a staff Lodged in her abdomen and didn't even flinch Breaking a finger is nothing.
And now I'm convinced that most people in this forum just glance over the title rather than read the stipulations in the OP. Byakugo is restricted in Scenario 1 for Sakura.

Sakura was also trained in analysing meaning she will find out that her flute causes sound for the Genjutsu to work she will then try and find a way to block the sound (No Not Screaming!!) She'll probably try sending chakra to her ears which will stop sound waves from reaching her ears she will then fake being trapped
Sending chakra to her ears? What does that even mean?

Tauyua will come in with a Kunai to behead her like she did with Shika and like she did with Zetsu and Sasori Sakura Suprise attacks her and as we know her strikes are OHKO.
This right here, as well as most of your entire post, ignores the fact that this is a 5 vs 2 (technically 6 vs 2) scenario. Tayuya and Kidomaru will play their roles as long range fighters and leave the CQC to Kimimaro / Jirobo / Sakon / Ukon, and their summons (spiders, Doki trio, etc). With full knowledge, Tayuya and Kidomaru have no reason to resort to CQC when their entire moveset is tailored for ranged combat.
 
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Why would the slaves of one Sannin, have the might to defeat another, who is said to be equal to that Sannin, Sannin( even > as slug > snake )
X2
Basically two full powered Tsunade's vs pupils of Orochimaru who were even a match for him
Tsunade is not Orochimaru or Jiraya's Equal, during their fight with Hanzo maybe, but not now
 

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Because of the rep Tsunade/Sakura fans already have. No one wants to waste their time when there's only 2 Tsunade/Sakura fans that can actually counter it. And chances are they won't even see it.
Tazilla is a good Tsunade debated imo. Probably the best Tsunade fan that can debate.
 

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Because of the rep Tsunade/Sakura fans already have. No one wants to waste their time when there's only 2 Tsunade/Sakura fans that can actually counter it. And chances are they won't even see it.
honestly i was neutral to them before a saw this thread... those two characters are hella underrated... but so are others, and those *others* tin to have better arguments
 
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