Tsunade is stronger than Danzo

Who wins??

  • Tsunade

    Votes: 82 42.7%
  • Danzo

    Votes: 110 57.3%

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Prince Charles

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I cant imagine a person who fought alongside hiruzen and tobirama losing to tsunade.
 

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It's kinda funny to call Danzo weaker than a certain person while taking away parts of his powers. Kotoamatsukami is a part of Danzos power, like Deva-Path is a part of Nagato and Susanoo a part of Itachi.

Above, Tsunade cannot win against Danzo even if latter is not using Kotoamatsukami. Danzo has a pretty good arsenal and 10 Sharingans for using Izanagi. Sasuke has won barely with his Mangekyou Sharingan and even Itachi was surprised.

Danzo has used stolen powers from both Senju and Uchiha. I guess you want to call them his powers, but i deny those being his powers. He stole them? Better words to use concerning his powers are stolen power-ups. Danzo has strong wind elements and a summoning, but you take Izanami, KA, and Senju DNA. He is pretty much nothing.
 

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If we remove KA, i believe Tsunade is stronger than Danzo because:
  • - She has much more power than him in taijutsu
  • - Danzo has izanagi which makes him immortal during 10minutes when Tsunade can be immortal during a much more time than that(probably one day if we go by the fact she was fighting Madara during one day)
  • - Danzo has only shown his fuuton jutsus and it's not with them that he would get a chance to kill her when one punch could kill him if he hasn't activated Izanagi
  • - Danzo has summon? Tsunade has katsuyu that can even split itself so immortal. It can even throw acid on the ennemy

What do you think?:ice:

Yes Danzo had a summon. Baku. Might wanna check it out, and answer your own questions. :D
 

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Danzo would make Tsunade to dust, lol. Her strength can't be helped
 

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Adding Hashiramas DNA to his body gave him physical strength. It was shown when he kicked the shi out of Karin into the rocks. He lacks the same healing abilities as Tsunade does however it's enough to survive a few hits from Tsunade without using Izanagi.



How would Tsunade even know about the time limit of Izanagi? Even so Danzo can cut it on and off with a few handseals.



Taijutsu also goes to Danzo who has the sharigan and enhanced strength.


Willpower? pshh. Sasuke was luckly enough to have Susanoo. Tsunade doesn't have that kind of power. Even if she starts to break it Danzo would notice and cut her head off.



There is more reason to show that Danzo knows more about Tsunades abilities than vice versa. Seeing as he is very secretive about what he does and Tsunade is famous. I'm pretty sure Danzo knows what she is capable of.

1. Yes, gave him pshysical strenght, but not the same physical strenght Tsunade has. She has monster strenght even without chakra enhancement. He only kicked Karin and smashed a few rocks while Tsunade smashed almost a whole village.

2. Simply. Intelligence and she reads the fighting patterns of her opponent. She's not stupid. She has been praised for her intelligence in combat and analytical skills.

3. Still, not to her level of taijutsu. She's the praised to be the best taijutsu user in the series.

4. Yes, Sasuke was lucky enough to have a Susanoo and Tsunade smashed a Susanoo. What makes you think she would get her head cut off? In order to do that, he has to be pretty close to her. And it's known that getting close to Tsunade is the worst you can do as a single touch can damage your nerves and a punch can cause you death.

5 Yes, knowing more about her... That's why he never-ever dared to challenge her for the Hokage title. All he did is wait and steal it.
Please...
 

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Now allow me to explain why they fail in this scenario
Izanagi: Izanagi grants Danzo temporarily immortality for 60 seconds. Which gives him 10 minutes of immortality. Tsunade however has byakougou, Sozo Saisei, and regular medical ninjutsu.
1.Byakougou would outlast Izanagi and allow Tsunade to outlast Danzo
2. Danzo keeps his Izanagi arm in a sealing cast and I'm really not sure how he intends to get his arm out when dodging Tsunade constantly. To prepare for his battle with Sasuke he needed Torune and Fuu to cover for him.
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3. While Danzo does have Izanagi to protect him from death for ten minutes as seen in the fight with Sasuke spamming Izanagi
1. The thing is, Danzo can start and stop izanagi when he feels like it. He does not have to keep it on for ten minutes straight. Byakougou could go on for hours depending on how much damage Danzo does but I believe if Tsunade fails to dodge the attacks, her chakra levels will drop considerably. All in all, I think Danzo doesn't have to spam izanagi like he did against Sasuke because Danzo doesn't have to face an opponent who has near instant one shot kills. Danzo will only have to use activate izanagi when he engages Tsunade in CQC or when the slug spits acid. He can also dodge some of those attacks instead with sharingan precog but since he is old, it is better to start and stop izanagi to tank attacks.

2. I usually assume that Danzo starts with his arms open but if he doesn't, he could sacrifice Shisui's eye and use it for izanagi while he unseals his arm. Unfortunately for Danzo, this would give knowledge about Danzo's technique to Tsunade so she will have an advantage over Sasuke in that regard since she will know exactly what Danzo is doing once that eye of his closes. Once it does, sharingan precog is also gone but I usually assume he does have access to his arm from the get go.

3. He was doing fine for most of the fight but he couldn't control Hashi's chakra anymore once he got stabbed in the heart with chidori eiso. Even after losing so much chakra to 10 izanagis and getting stabbed in the heart by a lightning sword capable of slicing tailed beasts like butter, he still had the energy to limp around. You underestimate Danzo's life force, it is close to Tsunade's level except he lacks knowledge on medical ninjutsu and has average chakra control compared to Tsunade. Nevertheless, he was compared to the Sarutobi, who was apparently one of the strongest ninjas ever. If you use Tsunade's Sannin and kage hype, I could counter with this but I dislike using hype in battles most of the time.
1. As shown above just stopping Hashirama's cells from overtaking his body is taxing on his chakra, it only stands to reason then that actually using mokuton is much more difficult for him. You may try to reason that Obito said he couldn't control Hashirama's chakra because he was to close to death but if that was in fact the case, how would Danzo be too close to death as he undid all the attacks he took via Izanagi? His chakra then must have been too low and that must've have been to what Obito was referring, as we all know when you run out of chakra, you die. Kakashi highlighted that point in the war against Pein
2. Danzo really isn't that good with Mokuton. He created a single tree with difficulty. Yamato and even Part 1 Edo-Hashirama have better feats with that which leads me to say that Danzo sucks in terms of Mokuton.
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3. Because Danzo's elemental specialization seems to be wind, and he has such trouble with Mokuton as it is foreign to him, I will postulate that he will have difficulty with suitons and dotons as well.
1. Didn't Danzo get fooled by Sasuke and decided to tank an attack from Sasuke but realized that izanagi ran out. You seemed to have ignored that, he was on the verge of death when he lost control of Hashirama's cells. Even though I despise that man, I felt bad for him at that moment. He must have been in a lot of pain but it still took a few minutes for him to finally pass away.

2. Forget mokuton, he doesn't need it to beat Tsunade.

3. Suitons and dotons are useless against Tsunade and we haven't seen him using them either so it is best we ignore them.

Baku
1. Baku is a large summon but I tend to think Katsuyu is as large.
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2. Baku doesn't really have a way to harm Katsuyu. If she decides to allow him to suck her up she can melt him from the inside out. If he decides to use his suction jutsu the same way Sasuke used a Katon she could spit acid which would badly burn and possibly maim him taking him out of the fight. If he should try to blow her based upon the weight of one of her tiny minis I doubt she will move when Susanoo posed such opposition. If he tries sometime of cutting jutsu Katsuyu can be cut or stabbed and still be just fine.
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3. Tsunade could kill Baku with an attack.
1. Read Blaze Release's thread and you will find that Katsuyu is no where near as big as Baku.

2. What I mean is that Danzo has two options, one is to use Baku to swallow up katsuyu and then reverse summon it. This would allow Katsuyu to be out of the picture in which case, Tsunade's fighting power has been reduced in half since she relies on the summon for long range offence. Also I do realize Tsunade can resist the pull by using chakra control to her feat like she did against Deva but while she is still, it give Danzo ample opportunity to do as much damage as he wants against her before Katsuyu manages to take Baku out. Remember how much Sasuke struggled against the fuuton wave? Despite having Susanoo. Yeah I don't see how Tsunade can regenerate from such a powerful attack but let's assume she does, she will be in pretty bad shape and it would leave a huge dent in her chakra reserves.

3. Lol at Tsunade going near Baku in the first place. She'd get swallowed up and then unsummoned allowing Danzo to win the battle since Tsunade technically ran away from the battlefield.

Fuuton
1.Danzo is a skilled Fuuton user I will grant you that but his fuutons only target small areas and as an evasion specialist Tsunade shouldn't have to much of a problem avoiding them.
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2.Beyond that all of his fuuton abilities are completely useless on Katsuyu.
3.As Mifune showed when constantly being barraged by attacks it is difficult to form hand seals for jutsus.
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Tsunade has on two occasions moved faster than others has been able to form handseals.
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So then the problem becomes how will Danzo find time to use jutsus when being constantly bombarded with attacks.
1. Usually Tsunade decides to tank attacks which is not a very smart move but she can probably dodge basic shuriken and wind bullets.
2. Danzo can use a fuuton attack to counter the acid to prevent it from hitting him.
3. Mifune has a sword so his reach in combat is better than that of Tsunade's. Also I think it is Tsunade who will be bombarded with attacks and not Danzo since Danzo, despite being an old man, is on Sasuke's level of speed.
Fuuinjutsu
There's been two types of offensive fuuinjutsus used by Danzo.
1.One can be overridden by will power.
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Tsunade though has shown her great will power being able to force herself to protect Naruto during her hemophobia, forcing her self to overcome hemophobia, forcing herself to attack while impaled, her resolve to never give up.
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2.The other fuuinjutsu is the seal released upon his death. However it is not fast moving as everyone was able to safely avoid it and common sense dictates get out of the way of the mysterious blackness
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And Tsunade has several speed feats in addition to the ones above. Such as having blitzed 3 people and having in a fatigued condition beat an anbu to Pein. Which should allow her to avoid this seal.
I deleted most of the stuff that you talked about later on in the post since genjutsu is irrelevant as I don't use KA instant KO in my arguments but bare in mind that your belief of Tsunade breaking out of these types of genjutsus is wrong. Anyway if Sasuke couldn't dodge his seal, what makes you think Tsunade can especailly since she is a CQC brawler unlike Sasuke who also goes in for mid ranged offences.
 

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If we remove KA, i believe Tsunade is stronger than Danzo because:
  • - She has much more power than him in taijutsu
  • - Danzo has izanagi which makes him immortal during 10minutes when Tsunade can be immortal during a much more time than that(probably one day if we go by the fact she was fighting Madara during one day)
  • - Danzo has only shown his fuuton jutsus and it's not with them that he would get a chance to kill her when one punch could kill him if he hasn't activated Izanagi
  • - Danzo has summon? Tsunade has katsuyu that can even split itself so immortal. It can even throw acid on the ennemy

What do you think?:ice:




Raw strength yes she wins in that department but will she beat him ?
I wouldn't declare her the winner of the bat not without some sort of an analysis on both ninja.But i would lean on Tsunade to win the fight.
 

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I agree with Chatte. But she owes me an apology ;)
 

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1. Yes, gave him pshysical strenght, but not the same physical strenght Tsunade has. She has monster strenght even without chakra enhancement. He only kicked Karin and smashed a few rocks while Tsunade smashed almost a whole village.

2. Simply. Intelligence and she reads the fighting patterns of her opponent. She's not stupid. She has been praised for her intelligence in combat and analytical skills.

3. Still, not to her level of taijutsu. She's the praised to be the best taijutsu user in the series.

4. Yes, Sasuke was lucky enough to have a Susanoo and Tsunade smashed a Susanoo. What makes you think she would get her head cut off? In order to do that, he has to be pretty close to her. And it's known that getting close to Tsunade is the worst you can do as a single touch can damage your nerves and a punch can cause you deat



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5 Yes, knowing more about her... That's why he never-ever dared to challenge her for the Hokage title. All he did is wait and steal it.
Please...


1. Not the same strength but like I said enough to tank a few hits. Danzo only needs 1 intance to grab her and she is sealed. If Danzo has izangi activtaed he wouldn't care about taking a hit from Tsunade. If she is sealed Danzo can effortlessy cut her head off.

The rest of what you wrote is just your utter bs opinion. Tsuande was not praised as the best taijutsu user. She was praised as the strongest person. Sharigan will make all that strength useless. You think Tsuande can break out the seal before Danzo will cut her head off? Lolololololoololol

She has good analyzing skills she has noo feats that put her on a higher pedestal than Danzo. Tsunade is famous and a top tier ninja from Danzos village. You don't think Danzo will all his resources won't know what she can do? Serious. I know you try to defend all the girls on Naruto but don't kid yourself.

Ka could have ended Tsunade for some reason Danzo never made his move.
 

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Dantee you got this

Izanagi > tsunade

Lol at those who think tsunade is faster than 3 tomoe sharingan
 
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Not sure I think I'll go with the penguin
 

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How would Danzo win if he didnt use KA :l

-Tsunade can heal from the wind attacks
-Tsunades summon is HELLLA better
-All she needs to do is punch him the amout of eyes he has

Tsunade>Danzo
High diff
 
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