LariatoooYes because Nagato was not resisting.
VoTE 1: Sasuke had not Genjutsu.
Retrival Arc: He was already stomping Naruto without it.
VoTE 2: He was nerfed.
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LariatoooYes because Nagato was not resisting.
VoTE 1: Sasuke had not Genjutsu.
Retrival Arc: He was already stomping Naruto without it.
VoTE 2: He was nerfed.
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And thus I said you're making assumptions on how much weaker their chakra is to the Juubi. No Uzumaki could naturally form a Bijuudama, that's a fact, regardless of how vast their chakra reserves are. Why is this nigh-immunity to Genjutsu any different?Well it should be clear no one is born with the chakra reserves of a JuubiJin ecept for Ashura and Kaguya's children, I specifically mentioned their chakra being a weaker version of he Juubi's
Lmaooo, we've gotta stop taking both you & femme seriously.Uzumaki have a talent to counter Uchiha genjutsu because their chakra is a weaker version of the Juubi's
Because anything is possible since DMS Kakashi, the line between facts and fanfics no longer existsAnd thus I said you're making assumptions on how much weaker their chakra is to the Juubi. No Uzumaki could naturally form a Bijuudama, that's a fact, regardless of how vast their chakra reserves are. Why is this nigh-immunity to Genjutsu any different?
Okay. I suppose that's a satisfying enough answer.Because anything is possible since DMS Kakashi, the line between facts and fanfics no longer exists
Well, this really depends a lot on wether Kurama is dragged along for the ride or not, being linked to Naruto's own subconcious and such..and even that on itself is highly debatable due to lack of examples of this kind of situation happening.In the real world, Tsukuyomi happenes in a split second while in the targets mind it can extent for however long Itachi would like. By the time Kurama tries to snap him out of it, it would have already been over.
No sir, no sirUzumaki have a talent to counter Uchiha genjutsu because their chakra is a weaker version of the Juubi's
Well, by that same logic no one using a henge should be put under Genjutsu since their chakra is constantly moving to keep them transformed.Ur just telling me I'm wrong not actually countering anything , tsunade jutsu is constant and never stops , i.e. Chakra will always be disrupted
Not even mentioning Byakugou mode which is a sure genjutsu immunity
Chakra flows at the rate of time of the external world. The rate of time within Tsukuyomi is different and completely unrelated to that.Byakugou tsunade would as her chakra is instantly and constantly flowing
It was on purpose.Lariatooo
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Kurama has a separate consciousness and subconscioussness from Naruto. There have even been times Kurama would say "Hey Naruto, I did my job as a external powerup and gathered chakra for you" Naruto wasn't aware Kurama was doing this so no, its not debatable and he won't be dragged in.Well, this really depends a lot on wether Kurama is dragged along for the ride or not, being linked to Naruto's own subconcious and such..and even that on itself is highly debatable due to lack of examples of this kind of situation happening.
I didn't say they are one and the same, I said they are linked, and from what we've seen its more of a one way connection from Kurama to Naruto, in such a way which Kurama is able to see, hear, smell, taste and even feel everything Naruto is seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling himself without even having to ask for what's happening. I'm not sure of this one, but it's very possible for Kurama to even see everything Naruto is thinking judging by how Dark Kurama responded to Minato's own thoughts here:Kurama has a separate consciousness and subconscioussness from Naruto. There have even been times Kurama would say "Hey Naruto, I did my job as a external powerup and gathered chakra for you" Naruto wasn't aware Kurama was doing this so no, its not debatable and he won't be dragged in.
This is a worthy quote for a solid signature.Uzumaki have a talent to counter Uchiha genjutsu because their chakra is a weaker version of the Juubi's
I'm thinking that's probably his singular goalThis is a worthy quote for a solid signature.
OT: Papers please.
Nope. Itachi creates a world in the opponents mind in which is manipulates time, space and matter.I didn't say they are one and the same, I said they are linked, and from what we've seen its more of a one way connection from Kurama to Naruto, in such a way which Kurama is able to see everything he is seeing without even having to ask for what's happening. I'm not sure of this one, but it might even be possible for Kurama to see everything Naruto is thinking judging by how Dark Kurama responded to Minato's own thoughts here:
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That different from simply entering Naruto's mind (which Kurama has access to) as Sasuke did here:Databook said:NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI; Tsukuyomi
User: Uchiha Itachi
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: none
Main text
Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu, born from the aforementioned hypnosis: Tsukuyomi. Originally, people on the face of the Earth live bound by limitations like time, gravity, and space; and how people exert their abilities within those restrictions is what separates the victors from the vanquished. But in the mental world where the caster drags their opponent, the Tsukuyomi jutsu gives them control over those very limitations!
He manipulates the created world they are in, not the user's own mind.Nope. Itachi creates a world in the opponents mind in which is manipulates time, space and matter.
Physical world common sense and time like Kurama's access to Naruto's mind at what ever time is irrelevant . I'll quote the rest.He manipulates the created world they are in, not the user's own mind.
Databook said:NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI; Tsukuyomi
User: Uchiha Itachi
Supplementary; Close range; Rank: none
Main text
Amidst the insight and hypnosis possessed by Sharingan, is a supreme genjutsu, born from the aforementioned hypnosis: Tsukuyomi. Originally, people on the face of the Earth live bound by limitations like time, gravity, and space; and how people exert their abilities within those restrictions is what separates the victors from the vanquished. But in the mental world where the caster drags their opponent, the Tsukuyomi jutsu gives them control over those very limitations!
Namely, this means inside the genjutsu, the physical world's common sense is completely irrelevant and opposing the caster is impossible. Somebody caught into the Tsukuyomi find themselves into a strange world of infinity, their fate entirely lying inside the caster's hands. Some time, they will undergo the torments of Hell, and some other time, they will be repeatedly shown a horrendous, hellish picture of agony and mayhem*, with no idea of when either of those will end. As a result, the poor prisoner can only wait until the collapse of their psyches...!! Even a body made of iron or the speed of light are powerless before this jutsu, which is the reason why it is feared as the most powerful.
Sharingan is the Kekkei Genkai of the clan labelled as the most powerful, the Uchiha clan. Even among those who have Sharingan, that jutsu cannot be operated without having Mangekyou, which is its culminating point. Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness. Once could say this is truly a God-given jutsu solely allowed to those blessed with Uchiha blood and prodigious aptitudes.
Genjutsu is casted by controlling the chakra in the opponents mind to affect the sensesHe manipulates the created world they are in, not the user's own mind.
Constant burst of chakra , it's being disrupted not staying stillWell, by that same logic no one using a henge should be put under Genjutsu since their chakra is constantly moving to keep them transformed.
Raikage wasnt immune and he bursts chakra more than anyone besides NarutoConstant burst of chakra , it's being disrupted not staying still
Where did it say that? If genjutsu worked on tailed beasts then shouldn't it work on them even though they've come back together?Genjutsu doesn't work on the Juubi, the special chakra Uzumaki have comes from it
Well, its obviously not impossible to break out of it since Sasuke did it. The common sense and time thing apply to what's happening inside the Genjutsu in relation to what's outside, but can that really account for an outside factor like Kurama, who thinking twice, should indeed be dragged into the Genjutsu since, as another user so kindly put it...Physical world common sense and time like Kurama's access to Naruto's mind at what ever time is irrelevant . I'll quote the rest.
Those are the very same senses they share, so regardless of the Genjutsu, Kurama is dragged into it with Naruto. Thus its almost impossible to keep a Fully Bonded Jinchuuriki trapped in Genjutsu.Genjutsu is casted by controlling the chakra in the opponents mind to affect the senses