Tsunade is a bad Hokage???

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The third is:
Fear of blood!
We know she lost loved ones but so did almost every single char in the show. The only difference is she abandons the village and contracts a fear of blood. Really not Hokage-worthy. I mean I don't even have to substantiate, a shinobi with a fear of blood just sounds ridiculous enough already.

Note: I actually like Tsunade as a char. This is not a character bash. I'm just saying it's not Hokage-worthy. But as a char, she's still fine.

 

[KingHashirama]

The second is:
Hashirama believed in a greater good on his own accord
Hiruzen believed in a greater good on his own accord
Minato believed in a greater good on his own accord
Naruto believes in a greater good on his own accord
Tsunade believes in a greater good as a direct result of Naruto's ideals.
They all wanted to bring peace to the world, the only difference is that Tsunade only wanted it because Naruto wanted it.

Holy sh*t man..... Tsunade only wanted it because Naruto wanted it? oh really?

Even though she became Hokage to protect the village.. not simply because Naruto wanted it...

 

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The fourth is:
Hokage is defined as the strongest ninja in the leaf village.
Hashirama was the strongest
Minato was the strongest
At the time she was chosen, Jiraiya > Tsunade
She was chosen because Jiraiya didn't want to and couldn't
She was the second choice.
And right now Naruto > Tsunade

 

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Holy sh*t man..... Tsunade only wanted it because Naruto wanted it? oh really?

Even though she became Hokage to protect the village.. not simply because Naruto wanted it...

No, it's true. if Naruto didn't want it, she wouldn't be Hokage.

 

[Sageflash]

I'm not even talking about the blood.. Their fight ended the moment Naruto and jiraiya interfered. Then he proceeded to take advantage of that opertunity.. and do the blood crap.

And please read the manga carefully mate, because you have too many misconceptions that give rise to false debates in the future.

Tsunade said he MAY one day surpass her prime. Kabuto took a soldier pill.. plus Doton techniques would have only resulted in his loss fast.. since the best way to fight her was going to be getting her to tire out..

And sure if you can't finish off the opponent in a 1 vs 1 fight, and take advantage of an interference..and call that a win.. then so be it.. but then in my eyes.. you ain't a legit fighter. Just saying. ;p

No, the fight did not end. Naruto and Jiraiya showed up, Tsunade charged in.

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Kabuto, prior to that, wasn't fighting seriously the entire fight, yet was still rivaling and surpassing Tsunade's prime in her own words.

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Then proceeded to exploit her fear and step on her face. No misconception about it, Kabuto won.

 

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The final reason is:
Lady Tsunade was not a fan of responsibility. She would hate doing tedious paperwork. She arbitrarily put together teams for missions and then made up lame excuses. How is that Hokage-worthy?

Note: This is not a char bash. I like Tsunade as a char. Many of her actions were not Hokage-worthy.

 

[KingHashirama]

No, the fight did not end. Naruto and Jiraiya showed up, Tsunade charged in.

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Kabuto wasn't fighting seriously the entire fight, yet was still rivaling and surpassing Tsunade's prime in her own words.

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Then proceeded to exploit her fear and step on her face. No misconception about it, Kabuto won.

Ha, i read the whole fight bro. ;p. So you don't have to go out of your way to post scans.

And also, umm interference is still there mate..

Look at how the roles changed.. first it was going to be Kabuto going to attack her.. and her going to counter.. now it was Tsunade attack him and him countering..

Yea no winner here. Plus, you did say the last man standing.. she didn't get K.O'd or get killed in the fight..

No, it's true. if Naruto didn't want it, she wouldn't be Hokage.

She saw hope of a better future for Konoha in Naruto... she saw his determination.. She literally had no reason to stay in Konoha for..

 

[Joshutsu]

Re: Tsunade is a bad Hokage???...Debatable...

Search and capture for Pain. He wasn't gonna just walk to Konoha and nuke it. He would of had to deal with any other Hokage from the door anyway.

And @ Bold...then who did Nagato revive? Just Kakashi eh?

No they wouldn't and even if what's stopping him from using ST from the start? None of them could counter + save lives. End of story.

They would not have any bodies to return to if they were reduced to juice via rinne tensei. Remember that. Casualties and lives saved existed.

 

[Joshutsu]

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Your backpedaling and insipid arbitration isn't helping you save face, lmao. Kabuto exposed Tsunade's weakness, and countered beautifully while admitting he isn't even good at taijutsu. As well as school Shizune neg diff with basic Doton.

Those are the facts, titboy. Those are the real facts, kid. Drawn and written in black and white. Your rationalization holds no merit, but feel free to keep dancing on those puppet strings. #KabutoWrecks

Just noticed this LOL, only 2 aspects? Senses and strength? She obviously means strength as a shinobi since Kabuto isn't physically stronger than her, lmfao.
Actually, I wouldn't put that past you. Keep it up, this is gold

@bold he used chakra scapels and thanks for admitting blood saved him.

I think you think that putting in a gif makes your content make more sense. I already posted the truth. Take it as you want it.

He fought Tsunade with chakra scapels. And she still managed to blitz and incapacitate him in a crippled state.

Their 1v1 ended with Jiraya showed up. Therefore I am right.

After they came in it became

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The manga is in black and white, but you seem to need to brush up on it. Maybe i will take things you say a bit more serious.

 

[AmitDS]

Tsunade could have easily recovered from the damage of all of kabuto's chakra scalpel damage via regeneration. I hate to use this excuse but it was only because of plot that she did not regenerate the damage from her muscles, in doing so she would have killed him with the first hit she landed on him.

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Instead of shorting out his nervous system she could have easily opened her seal for a few seconds and restore her muscle strength and punched him with her super strength thereby killing him in her rusty, exhausted frustrated state.

Tsunade had to get pushed into a corner so naruto could get his panel time and development in the form of pulling off his rasengan and talk no jutsuing tsunade into loving the village again.

 

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She saw hope of a better future for Konoha in Naruto... she saw his determination.. She literally had no reason to stay in Konoha for..

Exactly, she saw better hope for Konoha in Naruto. The others saw better hope for Konoha in themselves. She was a shinobi of the leaf, the economy is based on shinobi, there is still a threat. There are two reasons.

 

[Sageflash]

I agree, also minato was the worst hokage

Tsunade > Minato in strength, taijutsu, ninjutsu, and in being hokage. GG trolls U_U

What the ever loving f*ck is this? This, and I'm gonna be completely honest, is top 5 dumbest things I've ever read in my life.

Tsunade fappers are the worst, no reasoning at all. That's enough for this shit thread, I'm out.

 

[archbeta]

Re: Tsunade is a bad Hokage???...Debatable...

No they wouldn't and even if what's stopping him from using ST from the start? None of them could counter + save lives. End of story.

They would not have any bodies to return to if they were reduced to juice via rinne tensei. Remember that. Casualties and lives saved existed.

Minato > Pein. If Minato were alive, they could have also had the Jiraiya's student conversation. But that's not the point anyway.

 

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Tsunade could have easily recovered from the damage of all of kabuto's chakra scalpel damage via regeneration. I hate to use this excuse but it was only because of plot that she did not regenerate the damage from her muscles, in doing so she would have killed him with the first hit she landed on him.

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Instead of shorting out his nervous system she could have easily opened her seal for a few seconds and restore her muscle strength and punched him with her super strength thereby killing him in her rusty, exhausted frustrated state.

Tsunade had to get pushed into a corner so naruto could get his panel time and development in the form of pulling off his rasengan and talk no jutsuing tsunade into loving the village again.

The strength and senses she was talking about was medical ninjutsu. Every jutsu has a weakness. There are some thing you can't heal maybe. Kabuto isn't an idiot, he knows Tsunade can regenerate so being a fellow medical-nin, maybe he knows the parts that can't be regenerated easily and he targeted those which is why he has better medical sense maybe.

 

[Joshutsu]

Re: Tsunade is a bad Hokage???...Debatable...

Minato > Pein. If Minato were alive, they could have also had the Jiraiya's student conversation. But that's not the point anyway.

I'm not saying that at all. Infact that is not even a part of my last post to you. Besides he's like 1 hokage of the other 4.

It went out to all hokage. Tsunade handles shinra tensei the best. Katsuya negs it. The other hokage don't. (except minato might be able to with ST barrier)

 

[AmitDS]

Um no he does not. Tsunade revealed that ability later on in the fight and even orochimaru was surprised
Additionally, if she can regenerate from being slashed and stabbed in the heart she can easy regenerate severed muscles.
IT. WAS. PLOT.
He only surpassed Tsunade in his precision in the use of the chakra scalpel, nothing else. Of course now he is stronger but not way back then.

 

[KingHashirama]

Um no he does not. Tsunade revealed that ability later on in the fight and even orochimaru was surprised
Additionally, if she can regenerate from being slashed and stabbed in the heart she can easy regenerate severed muscles.
IT. WAS. PLOT.
He only surpassed Tsunade in his precision in the use of the chakra scalpel, nothing else. Of course now he is stronger but not way back then.

But he didn't surpass her at all... Unless Kishimoto had lost his sense.. which he didn't..

Kabuto became irrelevant when the Deadlock started. That showed the gap in their powers.

 

[Joshutsu]

But he didn't surpass her at all... Unless Kishimoto had lost his sense.. which he didn't..

Kabuto became irrelevant when the Deadlock started. That showed the gap in their powers.

Precisely, anyone who thinks Tsunade was in the same mental state she was after getting her resolve and overcoming her fear of blood when she faced kabuto needs help. She still managed to rough him up.

Funny how when she stepped it up to the level with Jiraya and Orochimaru Kabuto sat down like a good boy and watched in amazement and then after his master got stomped he took him and ran away. He knew that it was done.

 

[V h o]

Yeah Tsunade was a bad hoakge. Then again the other hokage were bad as well. It took the culmination of the others' failures to lead to where the village is at now. If Tsunade was a good hokage she could have succeed regardless of the past failures of the older hokages.

 

[Xlad]

No, she isn't. Don't understand the extreme hate for her, even though she isn't really isn't my favorite.