Tsunade is a bad Hokage???

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If he hadn't used the Kyuubi's help, he would have lost the battle. As such, it was not a solo. Pain nearly had captured him until Hinata intervened.
We've clearly established it was not a solo, I'm not disputing that nor was I at any point.

You said he used Kyuubi to kill the paths and he didn't. He killed every single path in Sage Mode. He godstomped Deva on a Kyuubi rampage, but killed him in base.
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We've clearly established it was not a solo, I'm not disputing that nor was I at any point.

You said he used Kyuubi to kill the paths and he didn't. He killed every single path in Sage Mode. He godstomped Deva on a Kyuubi rampage, but killed him in SM.

And Naruto won't had a chance without intels and without Deva losing his power.
 

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She is weak and never had her own fight.

Is that all ur argument?

She could fought well against Madara along with the other Kages. And she played a major role healing them multiple times.

How is that weak?
 

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And Naruto won't had a chance without intels and without Deva losing his power.

98% of NV loses to Pain without intel. Current SM Naruto smashes Pain w/ intel. But that's neither here nor there and has nothing to do with why Tsunade is a shit Hokage.
 

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For the record, we have not seen tsunade's full power yet. Let's remember that during the pain arc and war arc, she had to heal and save countless lives (along with sakura) that alone requires a lot of chakra to do, and to say she's weak after doing something like that is crazy.
 

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98% of NV loses to Pain without intel. Current SM Naruto smashes Pain w/ intel. But that's neither here nor there and has nothing to do with why Tsunade is a shit Hokage.

So u believe Tsunade is a shit Hokage? Why?

Tobirama and Hiruzen had done worse things.
 

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Hiruzen is the worst hokage. Without intill it almost doesn't matter who the hokage was
 

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She is weak because she never summoned a giant slug and used to to protect the villagers from a giant explosion, or an army from an evil tree.

Oh wait, the other thing.
 

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So u believe Tsunade is a shit Hokage? Why?

Tobirama and Hiruzen had done worse things.

Because she's done nothing spectacular to help the village other than heal those who Pain injured. She's a support type ninja, which is not ideal for a Kage leader.

What has she done to make her a good Hokage?
 

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Is that all ur argument?

She could fought well against Madara along with the other Kages. And she played a major role healing them multiple times.

How is that weak?

She never had a 1v1 and finished without Naruto coming it between it. And out of all the hokages she is the weakest, blame kishi.
 

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She never had a 1v1 and finished without Naruto coming it between it. And out of all the hokages she is the weakest, blame kishi.

Yes she did, she 1v1'd Kabuto and he beat her mid diff. Was about to kill her even, she only survived because Naruto stepped up and made Kabuto swallow a Rasengan.
 

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Because she's done nothing spectacular to help the village other than heal those who Pain injured. She's a support type ninja, which is not ideal for a Kage leader.

What has she done to make her a good Hokage?

What has Hashirama, Tobirama, or Hiruzen done to make them better hokage than her that you know of?

Hokage is not a title just for fighting. She's not just some support ninja either.
 

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Tsunade is a great hokage, and in all honesty, you can argue that she was one of, if not the best. Now before people flame me for that bold statement, NOTE THAT I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT POWER.

Based on policy, she is definitely better than Hiruzen and Tobirama, and she busted her ass to save the Leaf, just like Minato and Hashirama. She might not have fought pain, but she did a damn good job saving everybody that was alive after Pains initial assault from his Almighty Push jutsu that destroyed the leaf.

She believed in Naruto and didn't keep him cooped up, like the elders and Danzo tried to do, and she actually cared about Naruto (like a grandson), which you could reason that Hiruzen didn't. In fact, the only thing Hiruzen ever did for Naruto is get him an apartment and let him enter the ninja, he turned a blind eye to the way that the villagers tortured Naruto. Not only did she allow Naruto to push himself, she allowed the rest of the K11 to push themselves too (like Shikimaru) and she even saved Lee's life as well.

She is easily top 3 in all around hokage rankings (not just power), and it can be argued that she surpassed Hashirama due to the fact that she is one of the 5 kage that banded their nations together to try to change the world (thus accomplishing Hashirama's dream). She is a great hokage.
 
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Yes she did, she 1v1'd Kabuto and he beat her mid diff. Was about to kill her even, she only survived because Naruto stepped up and made Kabuto swallow a Rasengan.

You can't seem to tell any fight how it happened. Mid diff? Please.

When Naruto came into the scene and rasengan her fight with kabuto was over ages before that.



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This woman started the Medic relevance and rule system within the military in hopes of saving lives. Tobirama created Chunin exams, where it was allowed for kids to kill other combatants, which were mostly kids as well. Clearly, she is the worst of the worst. Not to mention how she healed the village and the alliance as well.

Horrible, just horrible. How can she ever compare to the likes of Hizuren, who let Danzo and Elders mock the original principles in place, uphold discrimination of a founding clan, Hyuga branch family, Minato who accomplished little for the village in terms of ending conflicts, and let's not even start with Hashirama. I mean, she only created boundaries for the Elder and took matters in her own hands, as a leader should. She mingled with her subordinates and actually paid attention to their plight, which no Hokage ever seemed to do. She's the sole reason why Lee is where he is today.

Let's all begrudge and shit on her.
 

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You can't seem to tell any fight how it happened. Mid diff? Please.

When Naruto came into the scene and rasengan her fight with kabuto was over ages before that.



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Orly?

Kabuto could've killed her at any time
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Tsunade says Kabuto surpassed her in her prime
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So he won mid diff, without killing intent. Not to mention this gem where she was done.
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Or this
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Only one who can't understand a fight is YOU. Learn how to read, Tsunade titboy.
 
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Tsunade might not have done anything spectacular but she never did anything to hurt it on the scale as some of the other hokages
 

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In NB, no flashy stuff = fodder. That and the fact that she's a female with a temper and a sloppy fighting style is more than enough reason to say she's the worst.

OT: Honestly, i used to say Hashirama was the best, but in fact he might be even worse than Hiruzen based on the future of his acts.
He had the power to defeat Madara and did it, but apparently he didn't even cared about getting rid of the body or make sure he was dead, which is like a big ass fail considering the current situation. Giving the Tailed Beasts to the other villages was like an incentive for them to compete with eachother as well, not sure if that was a great idea (unless the beasts couldn't be kept in the same village for some reason).
Tobirama might have created an evil kinjutsu that harmed the narutoverse a lot, but at the end of the day, w/o it the narutoverse would be dead as well so... The way he treated the Uchiha's wasn't the best though.
Hiruzen might have had the longest reign, but honestly that doesn't mean much when there aren't many threats around. He was too lenient and the consequences were seen during the Orochimaru's invasion and Danzo's actions.
Minato didn't really do anything bad or left behind a stained legacy that hurt the future generations. Something similar can be said for Tsunade.
 
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