closed mind stubbornness how so? all i have been doing is proving you wrong and countering everything thing you say and backing up what i got to say. dont get mad because you got owned you cant expect to win every debate just except it. if you got the logic and proof to back up your claims then come on then im right here dont try to act cool on a website...Thanks man! However do not think for one second that I'm admitting defeat to your argument. I'm admitting defeat to your closed-minded stubbornness.