Tsunade At Best High Jounin Level?

[Prince Charles]

By that standard, itachi is better than kakashi, and oro was probably better( at least more versatile) than Minato. This is not about kakashi vs tsunade, but about accomplishments. She fought in the third shinobi wars, she along with jiraya and oro held their own against hanzo, and countless more battles we havent seen. We have to see the five kage battle yet.

im not going by any standard and what does her fighting in the third shinobi wars mean ? until we see more feats from her in this 5 kage battle im sticking to what im going by and that is her not being worthy of kage title

 

[Melizzle]

I gotta say you're hating. Just because she isnt the type of ninja you want her to be doesn't mean she isnt powerful. The power to save lives is just as valuable as the power to destroy. Without her. Pein would've destroyed Konoha a lot more quickly than he did. There wouldnt have been anyone left for Naruto to save at all.

 

[Prince Charles]

I gotta say you're hating. Just because she isnt the type of ninja you want her to be doesn't mean she isnt powerful. The power to save lives is just as valuable as the power to destroy. Without her. Pein would've destroyed Konoha a lot more quickly than he did. There wouldnt have been anyone left for Naruto to save at all.

no one is hating im just going from what i observe. what do you meen their would be no one else for naruto to save? he was also avenging his sensei jirayia or did you forget about that tsuanade didnt save everyone thier some ninjas like kiba and his plp who came up from under rocks. oh btw nagato revived everyone so tsunade wasnt really needed. im not saying she's weak but going by what we have seen so far shes not all that great and she barely has feats

 

[The Riddlerr]

1. minato just doesnt have fighting and power over her but also intelligence thats another reason.
2. what do you meen you dont have to be a fighter how else can are you suppose to protect your village? drink tea?
3.kakashi still did more then tsuanade during the pai arc
4.she has the strength to kill anyone in a few hits? that doesnt matter if she cant land a hit
5.you say naruto isnt rash but tsuanade isnt? right... sending off jman to his execution brilliant! and not even going with him?
6.i know a kage is more than a fighter but thats something they need to be to defend off certain enemies
7.a technique to make her invincible ? kakashi can kamui her head off or chidori to the heart shes instantly dead you cant perform techniques when your dead?
8.like i said she doesnt deserve to be hokage and i said compare her contributes to other hokage's shes more of a politicial worker for the leaf village and a med user incase .

And just having intelligence doesn't mean anything. What you fail to realize is that you're bringing up Minato whom wasn't only a Hokage but was also labelled a Genius which appears once a Generation... So what's the point? Minato is the Strongest Hokage Ever... Does that mean Hashirama, Tobirama and Hiruzen didn't deserve the title of Hokage either?

Tsunade protected her village by using her summon and sending her chakra to heal everyone and keep them alive. Just because you have the title of Kage doesn't mean you have to be the best fighter the world has ever seen.. Fact is, you're matching her up against Minato of all people, who would beat 99.8% of everyone we've ever seen in the manga and then you go ahead and say Kakashi would beat her without bringing up any evidence or facts to prove it.

Actually Kakashi didn't. He fought against a couple of Paths and got pwned... Tsunade managed to keep a few hundred people alive and even once her chakra was almost depleted, she still stepped onto the battlefield to fight with Pein.

Lol? That's the best you got? And what's the point of other people fighting her if they can't kill her because she can kill herself then?

Ha! Tsunade told him not to go and that if he was going to be careful. And how is she meant to go with him when he said it was something he was going to do alone? -.-"

And Tsunade can fight. You honestly think someone who survived 2 World Wars isn't capable of fighting? Wow...

And Tsunade can also kill Kakashi in a single hit.. So what's your point? You said Kabuto was equal to Tsunade... Well Kabuto bested Kakashi at the Chuunin exams... So I guess this means Kabuto = Tsunade > Kakashi then, huh?

Why does she need to be compared to the other Hokage? Like I said earlier... Minato could kill every other Hokage, does that not make them worthy of the title?


But anyways, your failed attempts at trolling have almost bored me to sleep. Please try harder next time... Or do us all a favor and don't try again.

 

[Melizzle]

no one is hating im just going from what i observe. what do you meen their would be no one else for naruto to save? he was also avenging his sensei jirayia or did you forget about that tsuanade didnt save everyone thier some ninjas like kiba and his plp who came up from under rocks. oh btw nagato revived everyone so tsunade wasnt really needed. im not saying she's weak but going by what we have seen so far shes not all that great and she barely has feats

I'm saying that Tsunade saved lots of lives and if it werent for her just about everyone wouldve been dead. Remember the push Pain did on the whole village? Tsunade saved and protected so many people from that or did you forget that? That's a pretty amazing feat in my book.

And what does Naruto avenging his sensei have to do with Tsunade's value as a kage and medical nin?

 

[ItachiLivesOn16]

Tsunade is definatly Kage level. *sigh* another great character underrated because she doesn't have a flashy kkg or horrific back history that makes her seem more worthy.

In relation to Pain, Tsunade gave the most help and assistance to the village than ANYONE else pre- naruto's arrival. If she is so useless then how did she manage to keep the majority of the village alive? Name a kage that can be that big of a help without even confronting the enemy? A good ninja is a smart ninja. She may be rash sometimes but she is incredibly smart and strategically advanced that doesn't need a sharingan or flashy ninjutsu to make a difference.

I'm also aware that she may not be the strongest kage but that isn't necessary a problem as she knows she has plenty of ninja that will defend her honour, as she is the most valuable person in the village along with Naruto.

My last point that will end this petty arguement about Kakashi is this: Kakashi saved Choji, Tsunade saved the village. Nuff said.

 

[Prince Charles]

I'm saying that Tsunade saved lots of lives and if it werent for her just about everyone wouldve been dead. Remember the push Pain did on the whole village? Tsunade saved and protected so many people from that or did you forget that? That's a pretty amazing feat in my book.

And what does Naruto avenging his sensei have to do with Tsunade's value as a kage and medical nin?

''There wouldnt have been anyone left for Naruto to save at all.'' thats what you said and i countered that with saying he was also their for avenging his sensei jirayia. and your point on tsuanade saving lives ? nagato brought back lives your point? shit konoharmru saved a life against one of the pain bodys?

 

[Melizzle]

''There wouldnt have been anyone left for Naruto to save at all.'' thats what you said and i countered that with saying he was also their for avenging his sensei jirayia. and your point on tsuanade saving lives ? nagato brought back lives your point? shit konoharmru saved a life against one of the pain bodys?

I point about Tsunade saving lives is relevant because with her medical ninjutsu that is her strength. Just because Pain revived everyone doesnt erase what she did. Your "counter" about naruto avenging anyone is completely irrelevant to Tsunade's strength as a ninja which is what this thread is about. I'm not saying she's the only who has saved a life, but she protected the whole village just like a kage should.

 

[Prince Charles]

And just having intelligence doesn't mean anything. What you fail to realize is that you're bringing up Minato whom wasn't only a Hokage but was also labelled a Genius which appears once a Generation... So what's the point? Minato is the Strongest Hokage Ever... Does that mean Hashirama, Tobirama and Hiruzen didn't deserve the title of Hokage either?

Tsunade protected her village by using her summon and sending her chakra to heal everyone and keep them alive. Just because you have the title of Kage doesn't mean you have to be the best fighter the world has ever seen.. Fact is, you're matching her up against Minato of all people, who would beat 99.8% of everyone we've ever seen in the manga and then you go ahead and say Kakashi would beat her without bringing up any evidence or facts to prove it.

Actually Kakashi didn't. He fought against a couple of Paths and got pwned... Tsunade managed to keep a few hundred people alive and even once her chakra was almost depleted, she still stepped onto the battlefield to fight with Pein.

Lol? That's the best you got? And what's the point of other people fighting her if they can't kill her because she can kill herself then?

Ha! Tsunade told him not to go and that if he was going to be careful. And how is she meant to go with him when he said it was something he was going to do alone? -.-"

And Tsunade can fight. You honestly think someone who survived 2 World Wars isn't capable of fighting? Wow...

And Tsunade can also kill Kakashi in a single hit.. So what's your point? You said Kabuto was equal to Tsunade... Well Kabuto bested Kakashi at the Chuunin exams... So I guess this means Kabuto = Tsunade > Kakashi then, huh?

Why does she need to be compared to the other Hokage? Like I said earlier... Minato could kill every other Hokage, does that not make them worthy of the title?


But anyways, your failed attempts at trolling have almost bored me to sleep. Please try harder next time... Or do us all a favor and don't try again.

never said minato was the stronge hokage ever? and dont know what your trying to say about the rest of the hokage's because they did deserve the title.

never said you have to be the best fighter in the world?
kakashi can beat her want me to prove just ask and i will give the logic.
how did kakashi get pwned? he owned that pain with chidori didnt he? and he was about to own deva pain until that scrap of metal interfered.

lol tsuande stepped on the battle field to fight pain as i recall she got up and started talking smack and got saved by the #1 knuckle head ninja naruto.
who cares if it was ment for jirayia to go alone she chose not to and thats that if she would of went he would probably still be here.

i dont think minato can beat every other kage..

her being in 2 wars meens what? and thats my bad if i said she cannot fight i guess she can but what we have seen she not worthy of kage title

me trolling ? thats funny im giving reasons for backing up for what i think last time i checked trolls just speak random bull shit i dont think im doing that.
anything else you want to say? i can keep going at it but can you?
oh thats funny tsunade can kill kakashi in 1 hit like kakashi would stand their and let him self get hit and theirs something called moving out the way?

when did i say kabuto is equal to tsuanade? plz tell me and your arugment on tsunade 1 hitting kakashi fails kakashi can easily kamui her head off in 1 hit? so your logic fails that equals a win for kakashi.

 

[-Hades-]

Why is she Hokage? maybe because of this

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Being a hokage is not all about power, and smarts... it is also about your beliefs, the way you think and act, the way you lead your village... A hokage needs to pass the will of fire onto the next generation.
Taking care of the village? being a med ninja couldn't help more in this case.
Strategy and planning well she has been through a war before so she does know how to handle this stuff.
Power? well she is in fact quite powerful, just because lately we have been introduced to characters that are so damn powerful doesn't mean she is weak, against those characters most of the whole ninja world do not stand a chance... and just because they are powerful, it doesn't mean you have to be stronger than them to defeat them (look at Naruto and how he defeated the 3rd Raikage)

Yea i agree that she is weaker than the rest of the Hokages but besides Naruto and Kakashi i don't think there is anyone more suited for the job... and so far she is doing her job pretty good, yea she couldn't stop Pain when he destroyed the village, but she saved most of the villagers back there, and their lives are more important than a village which can be rebuilt.

 

[Prince Charles]

I point about Tsunade saving lives is relevant because with her medical ninjutsu that is her strength. Just because Pain revived everyone doesnt erase what she did. Your "counter" about naruto avenging anyone is completely irrelevant to Tsunade's strength as a ninja which is what this thread is about. I'm not saying she's the only who has saved a life, but she protected the whole village just like a kage should.

my counter wasnt irrelevant i was talking about when you said their would be no one else for him to save i didnt think i would have to repeat my self like 2 times for you. yes i know this thread is about her, '' but she protected the whole village just like a kage should''. just like a kage should right? if thats a duty of every kage then how is that a feat ? thats her duty i dont see how a duty to one's village can be seen as a feat. just like you said like every kage should right? and i hope im not coming off offensive of any way to you im actually enjoying this. sorry if i am tho.

 

[Melizzle]

my counter wasnt irrelevant i was talking about when you said their would be no one else for him to save i didnt think i would have to repeat my self like 2 times for you. yes i know this thread is about her, '' but she protected the whole village just like a kage should''. just like a kage should right? if thats a duty of every kage then how is that a feat ? thats her duty i dont see how a duty to one's village can be seen as a feat. just like you said like every kage should right? and i hope im not coming off offensive of any way to you im actually enjoying this. sorry if i am tho.

Just because someone has a duty, it doesnt make it less amazing when they do it well. It's still a feat. Yes she's supposed to protect the village and she did on a scale that not many people probably can, certainly not anyone else we've ever seen. She did her duty is a great way why isnt it a feat?

 

[Prince Charles]

Just because someone has a duty, it doesnt make it less amazing when they do it well. It's still a feat. Yes she's supposed to protect the village and she did on a scale that not many people probably can, certainly not anyone else we've ever seen. She did her duty is a great way why isnt it a feat?

well, for one she didnt protect the ''village'' because it was destroyed she did protect the villagers somewhat but nagato played a part in it too. but that also came at a price she made her self weak too and unable to participate in the fight. and you still said like every other kage should do and how is that a feat? carrying out your job as a kage your automatically suppose to proect your village/villagers so no i dont c that as a feat. minato did the same thing sure it what tsuanade did was very brave and a true shinobi but its not a feat in my eyes. naruto protected the village against gaara in part 1 right?

 

[Melizzle]

well, for one she didnt protect the ''village'' because it was destroyed she did protect the villagers somewhat but nagato played a part in it too. but that also came at a price she made her self weak too and unable to participate in the fight. and you still said like every other kage should do and how is that a feat? carrying out your job as a kage your automatically suppose to proect your village/villagers so no i dont c that as a feat. minato did the same thing sure it what tsuanade did was very brave and a true shinobi but its not a feat in my eyes. naruto protected the village against gaara in part 1 right?

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Ok so to you anyone who has sacrificed themselves or done anything for the village which showed great strength, courage, and honor has not had a feat. Ok so no Harishama, no Hiruzen, no Tsunade, no Minato, no Oro, no Jiraya, no Gaara just no one. In fact since all shinobi since their job is to sacrifice whatever costs to protect their homes or whatever they believe in. So no feats for anyone. Just villains I guess. Even then they sacrifice for their new home and what they believe in and have a ninja way as well so no feats for them either. Just no feats.

 

[Ambriel]

Of course tsunade is weak she shouldve never ben made a kage

 

[Prince Charles]

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Ok so to you anyone who has sacrificed themselves or done anything for the village which showed great strength, courage, and honor has not had a feat. Ok so no Harishama, no Hiruzen, no Tsunade, no Minato, no Oro, no Jiraya, no Gaara just no one. In fact since all shinobi since their job is to sacrifice whatever costs to protect their homes or whatever they believe in. So no feats for anyone. Just villains I guess. Even then they sacrifice for their new home and what they believe in and have a ninja way as well so no feats for them either. Just no feats.

oh you :T_T: you give me too much credit :izuna: but yea jokes aside anyways, just because someone has sacrificed their life for their village doesnt automatically make it a feat what about all the thousands of fodder ninja who fought for their village and sacrificed their life does that mean they all have a feat? i dont think so... and when i think of feats i think of minato stopping a tbb ... i meen come on thats pretty boss xd
and orochimaru? same thing with him wen i think of feats i think of him mastering alot of jutsu and being a bad ass and blah blah blah you know. and hasirama able to fight the legendary madara uchia that had ems that is a feat tobirama was the creator of edo tensi and water jutsu master that is a feat.:shrug: it seems your idea of feat and mine are different but i do somewhat agree with you.

 

[blazekev90]

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[Rayder]

Tsunade is easily low Kage level. In Taijutsu she is only beaten by the Raikages and draws with Guy. She is the best healer in the series and her creation rebirth can repair any cuts,bruises and blood loss.

 

[Prince Charles]

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you mad bra?

 

[Melizzle]

oh you :T_T: you give me too much credit :izuna: but yea jokes aside anyways, just because someone has sacrificed their life for their village doesnt automatically make it a feat what about all the thousands of fodder ninja who fought for their village and sacrificed their life does that mean they all have a feat? i dont think so... and when i think of feats i think of minato stopping a tbb ... i meen come on thats pretty boss xd
and orochimaru? same thing with him wen i think of feats i think of him mastering alot of jutsu and being a bad ass and blah blah blah you know. and hasirama able to fight the legendary madara uchia that had ems that is a feat tobirama was the creator of edo tensi and water jutsu master that is a feat.:shrug: it seems your idea of feat and mine are different but i do somewhat agree with you.

Im not saying that fodder have feats. I said peope who have shown great strength as a part of my argument. Tsunade saved hundreds of people with her skills. She didnt have to use some crazy KKG or blow up a planet, but what she did is no less important. She preserved life just like a lot of the great ninja we've seen. I really dont understand why you dont see it that way. She's a genius medical nin, used her brain to heal rock lee and played a huge part in saving her village. I dont think that you and I have differing views on what a feat is but you do and theres nothing I can I do about that so it is what it is....