[VS] Tsunade and Sakura Vs Healthy Kimimaro

[Black Wolf]

How can you be off guard when the person is bleeding and cut up and LAYING right in front of you..... dude... oh my god. Its either Orochimaru is slow as hell, or Tsunade is fast as hell when she needs to be. So your choice.

If you think they are down for the count and not expecting them to get up and punch you in the face, then yeah you are off guard. Being within line of sight has nothing to do with whether or not one is off guard. It has to do with mindset and readiness to react, and judging by Orochimaru's words, he was clearly not expecting her to get up.

Kabuto can sense.. . Just in case you didn't know..

Part I non-Sage mode Kabuto has sufficient sensing feats to suggest he can fight with his eyes closed? News to me.

Wait time out. So Tsunade's punch as a kid used to break Jiraiya's ribs.. when they were kids. However, when Sakura punched a juubi clone it simply left a punch mark. Yet you are spouting crap about Kimimaro having more physical durability than Juubi's clones? What the hell.

Stop pretending that Juubi clones share the actual Juubi's durability. Clones in general are a heavily downgraded version of the original, which is why the five Kages weren't immediately obliterated when fighting five Madaras wielding a Susano'o each. It's why Madara defeated a Hashirama clone while sitting down with no effort whatsoever. It's also why Sharingan-less Part I Sasuke could murk half a dozen Zabuza clones despite the fact he wouldn't stand a chance against the original. It's why all the other rookies were holding their own against the Juubi clones.

And it has become obvious that the more clones one makes, the more diluted the power.

 

[BlackFlame44]

If you think they are down for the count and not expecting them to get up and punch you in the face, then yeah you are off guard. Being within line of sight has nothing to do with whether or not one is off guard. It has to do with mindset and readiness to react, and judging by Orochimaru's words, he was clearly not expecting her to get up.



Part I non-Sage mode Kabuto has sufficient sensing feats to suggest he can fight with his eyes closed? News to me.



Stop pretending that Juubi clones share the actual Juubi's durability. Clones in general are a heavily downgraded version of the original, which is why the five Kages weren't immediately obliterated when fighting five Madaras wielding a Susano'o each. It's why Madara defeated a Hashirama clone while sitting down with no effort whatsoever. It's also why Sharingan-less Part I Sasuke could murk half a dozen Zabuza clones despite the fact he wouldn't stand a chance against the original. It's why all the other rookies were holding their own against the Juubi clones.

And it has become obvious that the more clones one makes, the more diluted the power.

The clones Madara summoned were as strong as he was(in susanoo)

And the ten tail clones come from the skin of the ten tails said to be very tough

 

[BlackFlame44]

dosent matter,ay couldnt crack it alone,tsunade couldnt break it alone,they both needed the momentum to do so.

Tsunade already shown she can break susanoo swords and man handle the full thing without the other kage's help

the rasengan didnnt explode,maddy punched it away before it could.

It didn't explode Madara already blocked it

a fever could hinder a fighter from going 100%,imagine how much kimi was affected being on life support.

That's were willpower comes into play and Kimmimaro fought past of that

base lee couldnt hit sick kimi,it was drunken lee only due to being unpredictable. Kimi can heal

Base Lee fought on par with him


His healing abilities are fan theories

They're not mentioned in the manga or databook

 

[Draegod]

Base Lee fought on par with him


His healing abilities are fan theories

They're not mentioned in the manga or databook

Kimmi trolled base bee and played with him. No challenge what so ever, he literally

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His healing is manga fact! Try pulling your spine out and expect your nervous system to not be damaged beyond repair.. Oh wait! You can't in any universe. The fact that he healed everything around his spinal area and didn't die instantly after his spine was pulled shows he heals. Plus the fact:

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He literally controls and repair the destroyed cells that happen in his body (similar to byakuyo). The manga is proof enough with the amount of damage that was done with his body.

 

[genii96]

If you think they are down for the count and not expecting them to get up and punch you in the face, then yeah you are off guard. Being within line of sight has nothing to do with whether or not one is off guard. It has to do with mindset and readiness to react, and judging by Orochimaru's words, he was clearly not expecting her to get up.



Part I non-Sage mode Kabuto has sufficient sensing feats to suggest he can fight with his eyes closed? News to me.



Stop pretending that Juubi clones share the actual Juubi's durability. Clones in general are a heavily downgraded version of the original, which is why the five Kages weren't immediately obliterated when fighting five Madaras wielding a Susano'o each. It's why Madara defeated a Hashirama clone while sitting down with no effort whatsoever. It's also why Sharingan-less Part I Sasuke could murk half a dozen Zabuza clones despite the fact he wouldn't stand a chance against the original. It's why all the other rookies were holding their own against the Juubi clones.

And it has become obvious that the more clones one makes, the more diluted the power.

not all clones are weaker than the original,kagebushins are just as strong as a wood clones. The gokage never had a priblem with maddy's susanoo alone,only when he used it with moukton or went ps
hashi was focusing all his power in the barrier,thus not much power was available for his clones.

Water clones are specifically said to be a tenth of the users power.

Generally chakra is divided not power.
However t
he stuff abt the juubi's clones were true

The clones Madara summoned were as strong as he was(in susanoo)

And the ten tail clones come from the skin of the ten tails said to be very tough

ten tails tanked its own bijudama,juubi clones got merked by kiba

Tsunade already shown she can break susanoo swords and man handle the full thing without the other kage's help


It didn't explode Madara already blocked it



That's were willpower comes into play and Kimmimaro fought past of that



Base Lee fought on par with him


His healing abilities are fan theories

They're not mentioned in the manga or databook

a susanoo sword is less dense than the body of the susanoo by far,she knocked the full one down,she didnt smash it.


Madara blocked a rasengan that didnt explode,big difference than blocking one that explodes.

Willpower didnt remove the sickness,he could just move his body,someone with a fever can still move.
He died of that sickness now didnt he?

Base lee didnt lay a finger on him,util he went drunken,then kimi used his bones and thrashed him even in gates

kimi ripped open his back and pulled out his spine,and it grew back,what do you call it?



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[Chīkara]

People are overrating these 2 fodder Kunoichi.. Wasn't Kimi the one who was fighting
against KCM Naruto clone and still not sealed in CM1 ?

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Praised by Orochimaru, Defeated A Kazekage. but yet people say these 2 fodders are on his level ? LMAO. ​

 

[Black Wolf]

The clones Madara summoned were as strong as he was(in susanoo)

Are you just going to ignore the fact that Madara was destroying the five Kage while not even trying prior to that? That he was deliberately leaving them openings to hit him, and still held the upper hand? If his clones were anywhere near his real power, he would have destroyed the five Kage when he outnumbered them 5 to 1, yet he didn't. The clones were clearly a notch below the real thing.

I'm fine with clones being roughly equal to the user when they are used sparingly (i.e. one, maybe two) but when the user starts spamming them, their performance is never on par with the original, as seen with Naruto, Madara, Hashirama.

And the ten tail clones come from the skin of the ten tails said to be very tough

Yeah, and Kiba, Hinata, Shino, and pretty much every single one of the Konoha rookies have Juubi level attacks too? Because all of them managed to put down Juubi clones on panel as well, it wasn't just Team 7.

The clones are significantly less durable than the actual Juubi itself. The Juubi was tanking a variety of attacks, including its own Bijuudama, yet the clones were being put down by attacks far weaker than a Bijuudama.

not all clones are weaker than the original,kagebushins are just as strong as a wood clones. The gokage never had a priblem with maddy's susanoo alone,only when he used it with moukton or went ps
hashi was focusing all his power in the barrier,thus not much power was available for his clones.

Naruto's shadow clones always get fodderized when used en masse. Same can be said about Madara's clones. Madara alone (with Susano') was able to single-handedly pressure them, yet when he uses the clones, they are somehow holding their own.

When clones are used sparingly, this might be true. When spammed to no end (i.e. dozens of clones at a time) they are significantly weaker.

Water clones are specifically said to be a tenth of the users power.

Zabuza said that the clones were only 10% of his power, but wouldn't that be due to the fact he used so many of them?

Generally chakra is divided not power.

Perhaps by textbook definition, but never by application. Clones performance are always far below the original's. The only exception to this is a Shoten clone, and that is different due to Itachi / Kisame directly focusing on it. Shoten clones are a Rinnegan technique, separate from typical shadow clones altogether, so it shouldn't be comparable to begin with.

 

[genii96]

Are you just going to ignore the fact that Madara was destroying the five Kage while not even trying prior to that? That he was deliberately leaving them openings to hit him, and still held the upper hand? If his clones were anywhere near his real power, he would have destroyed the five Kage when he outnumbered them 5 to 1, yet he didn't. The clones were clearly a notch below the real thing.

I'm fine with clones being roughly equal to the user when they are used sparingly (i.e. one, maybe two) but when the user starts spamming them, their performance is never on par with the original, as seen with Naruto, Madara, Hashirama.



Yeah, and Kiba, Hinata, Shino, and pretty much every single one of the Konoha rookies have Juubi level attacks too? Because all of them managed to put down Juubi clones on panel as well, it wasn't just Team 7.

The clones are significantly less durable than the actual Juubi itself. The Juubi was tanking a variety of attacks, including its own Bijuudama, yet the clones were being put down by attacks far weaker than a Bijuudama.



Naruto's shadow clones always get fodderized when used en masse. Same can be said about Madara's clones. Madara alone (with Susano') was able to single-handedly pressure them, yet when he uses the clones, they are somehow holding their own.

When clones are used sparingly, this might be true. When spammed to no end (i.e. dozens of clones at a time) they are significantly weaker.



Zabuza said that the clones were only 10% of his power, but wouldn't that be due to the fact he used so many of them?



Perhaps by textbook definition, but never by application. Clones performance are always far below the original's. The only exception to this is a Shoten clone, and that is different due to Itachi / Kisame directly focusing on it. Shoten clones are a Rinnegan technique, separate from typical shadow clones altogether, so it shouldn't be comparable to begin with.

naruto's mass use of clones are usually against people far above him,eg kimimaro,neji. Thus the clones who are just as strong as he would do no better if only one is used,therefore his use of dozens.
Kagebushins weakness is their durability,but thats it,moukton bushins are as durable as an average person,which makes them better than kage bushins
Maddy never pressured them with normal susanoo alone,his v3 got beat by weakened gaara and onoki and he almost got sealed of not for his rinnegan,his v2 got busted by ay and onoki,tsunade and ay broke his v1. His susanoo got beat everythie it was used alone,only when used with moukton did he pressure them. His clones used only susanoos,they didnt use moukton nor rinnegan,which is why they were beaten.
The more clones you make,the less chakra they get,but maddy was an edo,so he dosent count.

No,the water clone itself get a tenth of the users power,making more just reduces their chakra output.

 

[Strict]

Tsunade survived Susanoo's Magatamas and being stabbed multiple times. Kimimaro's attacks can't match that. Even if Kimimaro stabs Tsunade with multiple bones when she goes in close combat, she won't die. But she will be able to fix Kimimaro in place and smash his body or head with the power which breaks Susanoo's swords.

 

[Black Wolf]

Madara demonstrated sufficient speed to

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. None of his clones demonstrated that, choosing to lumber around for the most part and generally giving off an aura of inferiority in terms of performance.

Madara being an Edo does not mean he has unlimited chakra. He just has a constantly replenishing amount of chakra. The fact that the 2nd Mizukage was exhausted shows that while the chakra eventually gets refilled far quicker than the normal humans, an Edo can still experience chakra loss.

Tsunade survived Susanoo's Magatamas and being stabbed multiple times. Kimimaro's attacks can't match that. Even if Kimimaro stabs Tsunade with multiple bones when she goes in close combat, she won't die. But she will be able to fix Kimimaro in place and smash his body or head with the power which breaks Susanoo's swords.

Kimimaro has full knowledge on her abilities and will aim to chop off limbs and aim for the skull / decapitation rather than go down the futile route of torso wounds.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Tsunade survived Susanoo's Magatamas and being stabbed multiple times. Kimimaro's attacks can't match that. Even if Kimimaro stabs Tsunade with multiple bones when she goes in close combat, she won't die. But she will be able to fix Kimimaro in place and smash his body or head with the power which breaks Susanoo's swords.

Kimimaro can regenerate broken bones, Tsunade can't beat him. All Kimimaro needs to do is to put a big bone through Tsunade's skull. Kimimaro doesn't even need CQC to beat Tsunade, he has long range jutsu that will immobilize her. Then Kimimaro blitzes and rips her head off

 

[BlackFlame44]

ten tails tanked its own bijudama,juubi clones got merked by kiba

Did I say they were as durable as ten tails? I said they come from the skin of the ten tails obviously the volume would make them much weaker

a susanoo sword is less dense than the body of the susanoo by far,

Based on what evidence? They're made from the same chakra

she knocked the full one down,she didnt smash it.

Never said she smashed one

Madara blocked a rasengan that didnt explode,big difference than blocking one that explodes.

The rasengan can still do damage even in it's ball form, what are you trying to prove?

Willpower didnt remove the sickness,he could just move his body,someone with a fever can still move.
He died of that sickness now didnt he?

I know all of that but clearly Kimmimaro decided to ignore the affects of the sickness tot he point where he could move and fight efficiently

Base lee didnt lay a finger on him,util he went drunken,then kimi used his bones and thrashed him even in gates

They stalemated at first, Kimmimaro didn't get the upper hand until after Lee was sober

kimi ripped open his back and pulled out his spine,and it grew back,what do you call it?
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Again, HIS OWN MOVES. Show me him regenerate bones damaged by his opponent, his own moves aren't supposed to harm him even Sasuke can wield his Inferno style flames like a sword, I guess that makes him flame retardant right? Show me Kimmimaro take damage from his opponents and heal his wounds from that otherwise this is just fan theory

Are you just going to ignore the fact that Madara was destroying the five Kage while not even trying prior to that? That he was deliberately leaving them openings to hit him, and still held the upper hand?

Excuse me, but when did Madara ever say he was leaving openings so that the kage could hit him? It was even stated that Madara was cornered into cloning himself so that he wouldnt be sealed

If his clones were anywhere near his real power, he would have destroyed the five Kage when he outnumbered them 5 to 1, yet he didn't. The clones were clearly a notch below the real thing.

Which is your opinion

I'm fine with clones being roughly equal to the user when they are used sparingly (i.e. one, maybe two) but when the user starts spamming them, their performance is never on par with the original, as seen with Naruto, Madara, Hashirama.

It all depends on how much energy is put into the clones rather than the original

Yeah, and Kiba, Hinata, Shino, and pretty much every single one of the Konoha rookies have Juubi level attacks too? Because all of them managed to put down Juubi clones on panel as well, it wasn't just Team 7.

The clones are significantly less durable than the actual Juubi itself. The Juubi was tanking a variety of attacks, including its own Bijuudama, yet the clones were being put down by attacks far weaker than a Bijuudama.

Look above please

Naruto's shadow clones always get fodderized when used en masse. Same can be said about Madara's clones. Madara alone (with Susano') was able to single-handedly pressure them, yet when he uses the clones, they are somehow holding their own.

He wasn't pressuring them after Tsunade used hyakugo

When clones are used sparingly, this might be true. When spammed to no end (i.e. dozens of clones at a time) they are significantly weaker.

Already touched this point

Zabuza said that the clones were only 10% of his power, but wouldn't that be due to the fact he used so many of them?

Or maybe because he was being cocky and saw Sasuke was trembling

Madara demonstrated sufficient speed to

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. None of his clones demonstrated that, choosing to lumber around for the most part and generally giving off an aura of inferiority in terms of performance.

In that same scan it clearly shows that the kage were more focused on the the flowers Madara spawned

Madara being an Edo does not mean he has unlimited chakra. He just has a constantly replenishing amount of chakra. The fact that the 2nd Mizukage was exhausted shows that while the chakra eventually gets refilled far quicker than the normal humans, an Edo can still experience chakra loss.

I know all of that

Kimimaro has full knowledge on her abilities and will aim to chop off limbs and aim for the skull / decapitation rather than go down the futile route of torso wounds.

This was in the OP? anyway it's not IC for Kimmimaro to sever especially when his bone sword lacks an edge

 

[BlackFlame44]

Kimimaro can regenerate broken bones, Tsunade can't beat him. All Kimimaro needs to do is to put a big bone through Tsunade's skull. Kimimaro doesn't even need CQC to beat Tsunade, he has long range jutsu that will immobilize her. Then Kimimaro blitzes and rips her head off

Please STFU

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Please STFU

Manga facts. Tsunade couldn't move a muscle for a while after she got stabbed by Madara. She doesn't have impenetrable body like Juggernaut. Kimimaro can regenerate bone, skin and flesh. Tsunade's punches won't kill him. Tsunade's punch has never killed anybody. Kimimaro died because of his illness, he was on life support before going to intercept naruto and co.

 

[Black Wolf]

Excuse me, but when did Madara ever say he was leaving openings so that the kage could hit him?

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It was even stated that Madara was cornered into cloning himself so that he wouldnt be sealed

Clones are a pre-emptive measure used to feint /trick an opponent. You can't be "forced" to use a Bunshin. It is inherently a flawed statement. Tsunade was the one who said that, not Madara.

Which is your opinion

It is a fact that clones perform below the original when produced in mass.

It all depends on how much energy is put into the clones rather than the original

Which correlates with the amount one makes. Using one clone means it has 50% of your chakra. Two clones = 33% of chakra. Three clones = 25% of your chakra. 25 clones = 3.846% of your chakra. Hundreds of clones? You get the drift.

In that same scan it clearly shows that the kage were more focused on the the flowers Madara spawned

Doesn't change the fact that Madara able to flank them inside a building sized chakra construct goes to show that his capabilities are above those of his clones, which stood there lumbering around and generally showing a mediocre performance.

This was in the OP? anyway it's not IC for Kimmimaro to sever especially when his bone sword lacks an edge

Kimimaro "knows of their fighting style" which completely relies on running in blindly and surviving shots via regen.

The thread does not say this is an IC match, it says "Intent = death" which I'd assume means blood-lusted. And even if it were IC, being IC does not equate to being stupid. With knowledge on regeneration, he isn't going to use a fighting style he knows to be ineffective.

 

[Strict]

Manga facts. Tsunade couldn't move a muscle for a while after she got stabbed by Madara. She doesn't have impenetrable body like Juggernaut. Kimimaro can regenerate bone, skin and flesh. Tsunade's punches won't kill him. Tsunade's punch has never killed anybody. Kimimaro died because of his illness, he was on life support before going to intercept naruto and co.

Except that she broke Susanoo's sword multiple times after being hit.. Manga facts. And you wanna tell me that Kimimaro's bones are harder than Susanoo? Kimimaro can regenerate bones, but Tsunade's punch will cause internal damage. He can't regenerate organs. Same if she smashes his head.

 

[BlackFlame44]

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Are you talking about the reminder Madara gave him that ninjutsu doesn't work? If so that doesn't mean anything other than that Madara telling them the situation they're in

Otherwise that other quote only applies to Particle style not Tsunade

Clones are a pre-emptive measure used to feint /trick an opponent. You can't be "forced" to use a Bunshin. It is inherently a flawed statement. Tsunade was the one who said that, not Madara.

Madara did feint her right? And Madara didn't argue against Tsunade, he didn't clone himself for laughs

It is a fact that clones perform below the original when produced in mass.

Maybe in Part 1/ Early Part II Naruto's case, but Madara knows what he's doing

Which correlates with the amount one makes. Using one clone means it has 50% of your chakra. Two clones = 33% of chakra. Three clones = 25% of your chakra. 25 clones = 3.846% of your chakra. Hundreds of clones? You get the drift.

He ever said the clones divided their chakra out of one hundred? Even part 1 Naruto made a mass number of clones able to damage Half Shukaku Gaara The fact that the clones can use Susanoo proves that enough

Doesn't change the fact that Madara able to flank them inside a building sized chakra construct goes to show that his capabilities are above those of his clones, which stood there lumbering around and generally showing a mediocre performance.

The clones were able to tussle with the kage just as well as the original, if not I need proof of their so called "mediocre performance"

Kimimaro "knows of their fighting style" which completely relies on running in blindly and surviving shots via regen.

How would he know? He's never met these guys in person, He's not even aware of the 100 Healings Jutsu.

The thread does not say this is an IC match, it says "Intent = death" which I'd assume means blood-lusted. And even if it were IC, being IC does not equate to being stupid. With knowledge on regeneration, he isn't going to use a fighting style he knows to be ineffective.

Well from what he's shown none of of his moves are anything Sakura or Tsunade can't heal from, the fact that he's gonna master a technique able to bypass it on the fly is unlikely

Manga facts. Tsunade couldn't move a muscle for a while after she got stabbed by Madara. She doesn't have impenetrable body like Juggernaut. Kimimaro can regenerate bone, skin and flesh. Tsunade's punches won't kill him. Tsunade's punch has never killed anybody. Kimimaro died because of his illness, he was on life support before going to intercept naruto and co.

After which she broke Madara's susanoo in half and took a point blank Magatama jutsu which dented Gaara's sand shield and Ohnoki's rock golem. When did Kimmimaro's bones ever kill anyone? The most they did was knock out fodder samurai which Tsunade could do with a finger.

Again SHOW ME A SCAN OF KIMMIMARO HEALING OR REGENERATING FROM A MOVE THAT WAS OFFENSIVE TOWARDS HIM.

Tsunade's punches punched a whole through Madara's clone, They can do the same to Kimmimaro

 

[genii96]

Madara demonstrated sufficient speed to

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. None of his clones demonstrated that, choosing to lumber around for the most part and generally giving off an aura of inferiority in terms of performance.

Madara being an Edo does not mean he has unlimited chakra. He just has a constantly replenishing amount of chakra. The fact that the 2nd Mizukage was exhausted shows that while the chakra eventually gets refilled far quicker than the normal humans, an Edo can still experience chakra loss.



Kimimaro has full knowledge on her abilities and will aim to chop off limbs and aim for the skull / decapitation rather than go down the futile route of torso wounds.

madara flanked them because they were focused on the moukton attack,clones didnt use moukton.madara himself acknowledged that edos had unlimited chakra.
Being exhausted cann be caused by things other than chakra.

Did I say they were as durable as ten tails? I said they come from the skin of the ten tails obviously the volume would make them much weaker





Based on what evidence? They're made from the same chakra


Never said she smashed one





The rasengan can still do damage even in it's ball form, what are you trying to prove?




I know all of that but clearly Kimmimaro decided to ignore the affects of the sickness tot he point where he could move and fight efficiently



They stalemated at first, Kimmimaro didn't get the upper hand until after Lee was sober



Again, HIS OWN MOVES. Show me him regenerate bones damaged by his opponent, his own moves aren't supposed to harm him even Sasuke can wield his Inferno style flames like a sword, I guess that makes him flame retardant right? Show me Kimmimaro take damage from his opponents and heal his wounds from that otherwise this is just fan theory




Excuse me, but when did Madara ever say he was leaving openings so that the kage could hit him? It was even stated that Madara was cornered into cloning himself so that he wouldnt be sealed



Which is your opinion



It all depends on how much energy is put into the clones rather than the original



Look above please



He wasn't pressuring them after Tsunade used hyakugo



Already touched this point



Or maybe because he was being cocky and saw Sasuke was trembling




In that same scan it clearly shows that the kage were more focused on the the flowers Madara spawned



I know all of that



This was in the OP? anyway it's not IC for Kimmimaro to sever especially when his bone sword lacks an edge

1) the fact that every one of the k11 was cutting them up,means they are not on kimi's level,kiba isnt going to cut kimi apart now is he?.
2)swords are clearly thinner than the body. Evidence?,tsunade slightly cracked ribcage,yet broke the sword in jhalf:|
3) the damage of that unexploding rasengan wasnt enough to even destroy the rock there,let alone harm susanoo
4) ignoring a sickmess dosent mean it goes away,nor does it mean it still dosent hamper your abilities,kimi fighting like that when sick just shows how powerful he was when healthy.
5) they stalemated when kimi didnt use his bones,when he did,he trashed drunken lee/gated lee
6) so if a heal from a ripped spine when i pull it out,i wont heal if someone ele pulls it out?. He healed from a sand coffin too.

 

[BlackFlame44]

madara flanked them because they were focused on the moukton attack,clones didnt use moukton.madara himself acknowledged that edos had unlimited chakra.
Being exhausted cann be caused by things other than chakra.

1) the fact that every one of the k11 was cutting them up,means they are not on kimi's level,kiba isnt going to cut kimi apart now is he?.

In 3 head cerberus mode he could

2)swords are clearly thinner than the body. Evidence?,tsunade slightly cracked ribcage,yet broke the sword in jhalf:|

Still doesn't change that they're both more durable than Kimmimaro and Tsunade damaged both

3) the damage of that unexploding rasengan wasnt enough to even destroy the rock there,let alone harm susanoo

Maybe because the rasengan didn't hit the rock?

You're proving nothing

4) ignoring a sickmess dosent mean it goes away,nor does it mean it still dosent hamper your abilities,kimi fighting like that when sick just shows how powerful he was when healthy.

Which is the fallacy, We don't know how a healthier Kimmimaro would fight*by edo feats there aren't many differences* so trying to use a character we've never seen fight leads to speculation and wank

5) they stalemated when kimi didnt use his bones,when he did,he trashed drunken lee/gated lee

He landed a few hits then Gaara came in,

Hardly trashing a gated lee

6) so if a heal from a ripped spine when i pull it out,i wont heal if someone ele pulls it out?.

Not the point...

SHow me him healing a broken bone

I'll wait

He healed from a sand coffin too.

Proof?

Show me the scan

 

[Curse Mark]

After which she broke Madara's susanoo in half and took a point blank Magatama jutsu which dented Gaara's sand shield and Ohnoki's rock golem. When did Kimmimaro's bones ever kill anyone? The most they did was knock out fodder samurai which Tsunade could do with a finger.

Again SHOW ME A SCAN OF KIMMIMARO HEALING OR REGENERATING FROM A MOVE THAT WAS OFFENSIVE TOWARDS HIM.

Tsunade's punches punched a whole through Madara's clone, They can do the same to Kimmimaro

Lel he regenerated from the sand coffin that removed his skin bro, give up.


Ps why do you think when kimimaro said he can literally control the formation and growth of bones as well as the density of them that he wouldn't be able to fix a broken bone? That's literally like such a basic use of his KG