[VS] Tsunade and Sakura Vs Healthy Kimimaro

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Kishimoto also went out of his way to make Jiraiya say no one has surpassed her in combat. But that is baseless bullshit.

And then shows us Part I Kabuto man handling her several chapters later until he literally closed his eyes and left an opening for her.

Kishimoto also went out of his way to show us over 20+ juubi clones ,who all had more body durability than kimimaro, flying up and screaming like b*tches.. but kimimaro tanks it.

Juubi clones aren't more durable than Kimimaro. Not even remotely.

Never said Kimimaro tanks it either. I said he survives long enough for regeneration to kick in.

The mere fact you said Kimimaro is superior to Tsunade in taijutsu.. is just ridiculous. Tsunade has never faced anyone who has been better than her in taijutsu in the entire manga.

Of course he is better than her at Taijutsu and by a very far margin.

He displayed finesse and acrobatics in his style, dodging and attacking from different angles unlike Tsunade who has only shown bum-rushing the opponent ala Kabuto and Madara.

Kishimoto also went out of his way to put Tsunade as a Sanin

In other words, three people that got stomped by Hanzo. That is literally where the title came from.

Kishimoto also went out of his way to make all the Sanin have 35 in the databook.

Stat totals are completely fan-made and have no reflection on one's actual capabilities and powers, unless of course you think Shizune is stronger than Gaara. Individual stats are the only thing that can be compared.

Kishimoto also went out of his way to make Tsunade the Hokage, and not any other Sanin

And Kishimoto has shown us that titles mean very little in a manga where three Genin (Naruto, Sasuke, Kabuto) and a Chunin (Obito) have been contributing the most to this war (for better or worse). He shows us a Jonin (Gai) nearly killing a Madara eons stronger than the one that murked all five Kage without breaking a sweat.

He's shown us Genin (Naruto, Sasuke) kill Kages (Raikage, Danzo) while we're at it.
 
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Noooo but you implied that water jutsu is completely harmless

Which is false


If I sprayed you highly pressurized water hose you'd be torn apart

Leave that real world bs out of this, this is sussano were talking about, the suiton dragon was HARMLESS unless you can show me scans that say I'm wrong. Theres was no cracks or breaks indicated on madara's ribcage sussano after he took that suiton dragon unless as I said before you can provide scans.

The mere fact you said Kimimaro is superior to Tsunade in taijutsu.. is just ridiculous. Tsunade has never faced anyone who has been better than her in taijutsu in the entire manga

Lmao stfu your so stupid, and lmao at BOLD

Who has tsunade faced in the manga? So many people right?

Kid naruto?
Sick orochimaru?
edo madara?
Kabuto?

Shes only fought about around 4 people in the entire manga which were hardly fights at all.
who else? Tell me more because hardly anyone comes to mind that she has fought, smh please log off your so dam stupid
 

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Kishimoto also went out of his way to make Jiraiya say no one has surpassed her in combat. But that is baseless bullshit.

Didn't gai/lee say the Gentle fist is the best fighting style in Konoha, even tho both had Gates?

#Hype
 

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Kishimoto also went out of his way to make Jiraiya say no one has surpassed her in combat. But that is baseless bullshit.

Kishimoto also went out of his way to show us over 20+ juubi clones ,who all had more body durability than kimimaro, flying up and screaming like b*tches.. but kimimaro tanks it.

The mere fact you said Kimimaro is superior to Tsunade in taijutsu.. is just ridiculous. Tsunade has never faced anyone who has been better than her in taijutsu in the entire manga.


Kishimoto also went out of his way to put Tsunade as a Sanin

Kishimoto also went out of his way to make all the Sanin have 35 in the databook.

Kishimoto also went out of his way to make Tsunade the Hokage, and not any other Sanin


So when kishimoto has done all that, why aren't you listening to kishimoto?

You forget this is healthy kimi, he can take tsunade punch and then he can heal from the damage. Tsunade can not heal past kimi attacks because... she can't. Healthy kimi is also 10 times stronger than sick kimi so actually he blitz tsunade.
 

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Show me feats of kimimaro taking a punch to the head, infact Tsunade can just mess up his nerves.. end of story there. Also since he is ten times stronger than the normal kimimaro that would mean he has a 40 in the databook correct? And also where is this "ten times stronger" written in the manga?


But let me go on about Black Wolf over here.. He talks about Kimimaro not being healthy and etc.. yet totally denies the over-repeated thing in the manga about Tsunade being drunk , out of shape, out of training.. o_O

Lmao stfu your so stupid, and lmao at BOLD

Who has tsunade faced in the manga? So many people right?

Kid naruto?
Sick orochimaru?
edo madara?
Kabuto?

Shes only fought about around 4 people in the entire manga which were hardly fights at all.
who else? Tell me more because hardly anyone comes to mind that she has fought, smh please log off your so dam stupid

Since you wanna be a smartass tell me where i said she faced more people. When the whole point here is shes never faced anyone who can rival in her tiajutsu... Then idiots like you wank about feats, because characters can't show feats WHEN THERE IS NO FREAKING POINT IN SHOWING THEM. For Tsunade and Sakura and many others who "featless" to show feats they must meet an opponent that can rival them in their aspect.

So maybe you should starting using that brain of yours and realize it?
 
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You forget this is healthy kimi, he can take tsunade punch and then he can heal from the damage. Tsunade can not heal past kimi attacks because... she can't. Healthy kimi is also 10 times stronger than sick kimi so actually he blitz tsunade.

Prove Healthy Kimmimaro is faster than Madara, More durable than susanoo and can heal like you say
 

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Where did I "totally deny" Tsunade being drunk / out of shape / out of training? I only referenced that when you stated Tsunade to be the best Taijutsu fighter in the manga according to Jiraiya, her comrade, who had every reason to inflate her capabilities to kid Naruto.

Tsunade's databook stats were assigned to her when she was "in shape" and was still given a 3.5 in speed despite that. They were given to her as of chapter 400 in Part II.
 

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Didn't gai/lee say the Gentle fist is the best fighting style in Konoha, even tho both had Gates?

#Hype
Manga please, also was Tsunade in konoha? yes or no.

Where did I "totally deny" Tsunade being drunk / out of shape / out of training? I only referenced that when you stated Tsunade to be the best Taijutsu fighter in the manga according to Jiraiya, her comrade, who had every reason to inflate her capabilities to kid Naruto.

Tsunade's databook stats were assigned to her when she was "in shape" and was still given a 3.5 in speed despite that. They were given to her as of chapter 400 in Part II.
inflate and downgrade himself.. really? Because he simply had to downgrade himself..

And also, you do realize she is nowhere near prime "reflexes" and etc stated by her herself. And on to of that, oyu do realize Yinself and Byakugou are not part of that.

And if the 3.5 was given when she was in her healthy shape.. then orochimaru must feel like a lil ***** since he got blitzed by a cut up woman who was laying on the floor , while he was looking right at her, and he couldn't react to it..
 
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Black Wolf.. bro did you just say Kimimaro is more durable than the clones in regards to body? WTF.....
 

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Yeah, I have no reason to believe that miniscule fractions of the Juubi are more durable than Kimimaro.

And if the 3.5 was given when she was in her healthy shape.. then orochimaru must feel like a lil ***** since he got blitzed by a cut up woman who was laying on the floor , while he was looking right at her, and he couldn't react to it..

The 3.5 was given to her in the third databook, which is relevant up to chapter 400. There is no "ifs-and-buts" about it, that is when it was assigned. Orochimaru was off-guard and was not expecting her to get up. All of her alleged speed feats that are cited in threads are against off-guard individuals (ala Shizune in a hospital, Kabuto closing his eyes).
 

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did i just see a post saying juubi clones are more durable than kimimaros bones??? LOL

OT. tsunade and sakura win this
 

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Leave that real world bs out of this, this is sussano were talking about, the suiton dragon was HARMLESS unless you can show me scans that say I'm wrong. Theres was no cracks or breaks indicated on madara's ribcage sussano after he took that suiton dragon unless as I said before you can provide scans.



Lmao stfu your so stupid, and lmao at BOLD

Who has tsunade faced in the manga? So many people right?

Kid naruto?
Sick orochimaru?
edo madara?
Kabuto?

Shes only fought about around 4 people in the entire manga which were hardly fights at all.
who else? Tell me more because hardly anyone comes to mind that she has fought, smh please log off your so dam stupid

Not the point and real life logic does apply here

And just because the water dragon didn't hurt susanoo doesn't make it harmless overall

It just means susanoo is durable
 

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I don't think people should underestimate Juubi clones. I mean, yeah they're clones.... but hello, they're JUUBI clones
 

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Where did I "totally deny" Tsunade being drunk / out of shape / out of training? I only referenced that when you stated Tsunade to be the best Taijutsu fighter in the manga according to Jiraiya, her comrade, who had every reason to inflate her capabilities to kid Naruto.

Tsunade's databook stats were assigned to her when she was "in shape" and was still given a 3.5 in speed despite that. They were given to her as of chapter 400 in Part II.

Maybe the rating system is just flawed
 

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Yeah, I have no reason to believe that miniscule fractions of the Juubi are more durable than Kimimaro.



The 3.5 was given to her in the third databook, which is relevant up to chapter 400. There is no "ifs-and-buts" about it, that is when it was assigned. Orochimaru was off-guard and was not expecting her to get up. All of her alleged speed feats that are cited in threads are against off-guard individuals (ala Shizune in a hospital, Kabuto closing his eyes).
How can you be off guard when the person is bleeding and cut up and LAYING right in front of you..... dude... oh my god. Its either Orochimaru is slow as hell, or Tsunade is fast as hell when she needs to be. So your choice.

Kabuto can sense.. o_O. Just in case you didn't know..

Wait time out. So Tsunade's punch as a kid used to break Jiraiya's ribs.. when they were kids. However, when Sakura punched a juubi clone it simply left a punch mark. Yet you are spouting crap about Kimimaro having more physical durability than Juubi's clones? What the hell.
 
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