WTF are you talking about will a basic genjutsu work on a sannnin
Basic genjutsu worked on Orochimaru..WHEN ITACHI WAS 11.... you don't understand that itachi defeated a sannin when he was a kid...
Yeah, if any of the sannin were openly staring into his eyes because they are arrogant and not trying to kill him but trying to use their inferior Fushi Tensei then they would die. Unfortunately for Itachi no battle starts already eye-locked and they're actually fighting to kill here.
Basic genjutsu was also used on itachi and sasuke and worked...
It worked but they broke out of it pretty easily, unless Shikamaru's genjutsu breaking skill is better than Itachi and Sasuke's but...gonna just stop right there.
Your entire argument is based on your rediculous assumption that itachi doesn't go into susanno instantly..
He doesn't do it instantly...So first he uses Amaterasu instantly(despite the fact in no fight did he ever use Amaterasu first). Then, WAIT! He won't use Amaterasu instantly, but he uses Tsukuyomi instantly(again despite in no fight he never ever used Tsukuyomi first or in-character). So now, I guess he uses Susano'o instantly.
I guess Itachi learned a new technique off-panel that allows him to use all 3 MS techniques the second the fight starts that only you know about and Tsukuyomi and his genjutsu now no longer require eye contact. And it's all entirely unavoidable by 2 kage level ninja before they make 1 hand sign and spread the mist to block his LOS.
Itachi enters susanno, full form susanno the moment he see's the opponent attacking...
Prove this, never once has he used full-form Susano'o when someone attacked him instantly other than his fight with Sasuke. He's used incomplete version even in his and Naruto/Bee's entire fight with Nagato.
Once again, Paralyses genjutsu, + Totsuka sword..
Or tsukyomi
Or amaterasu...
Anyone works... Tsunade cannot get mei out of the paralysis until she first realizes she's in one.. Totsuka sword is fast.. It cut oro while he was talking , mid words....
Yeah, and likewise Itachi can't get either of them in a genjutsu if he can't even see them in the first place.
Do not make me end this debate with your rediculous statements that because they in a team genjutsu won't work..
Tsukyomi can ONE shot anyone of them.... Miotic regeneration won't work, since it recreates destroyed cells etc.. tsukyomi doesn't do that, it collapses the psyche ... She'll need to heal her psychological damage.. something she is incapable of doing while in a paraplegic state..
Because it's basically confirmed fact at this point that teams+genjutsu=bad, and when cloaked by doujutsu-proof mist it doesn't make it easier for Itachi.
You have NO counter for itachi beginning the fight with his genjutsu, only some ridiculous statements that he won't because he never does...
...because he hasn't. If "There's no on screen showings of Itachi ever ever using any of his MS techniques at the very beginning of the fight before the opponent can perform 1 hand sign, he usually opens up with a Katon or similar, etc." is a ridiculous statement then I guess Itachi instantly opening up with an MS technique despite never having done this on-screen
especailly when coupled with the fact he has no knowledge is a logical statement.
I highly doubt you're going to get by if you don't provide the facts because he has never done this, Itachi will not just go totally out-of-character for one fight you think he will win if and only if he jumps out of character.
Let's take Pain for example. Hypothetically speaking: He's facing an opponent that he has no knowledge of. We, the readers, know that his only option to win is to use Chibaku Tensei at the beginning of the fight because we know everything about both characters and we know CT will defeat the opposition if he uses it at the start.
Unfortunately, Pain doesn't use Chibaku Tensei when in-character, let alone with no knowledge. You would be the one to say "Well he just uses Chibaku Tensei at the beginning of the fight to win, I know in every fight he's been in he's never used it but it's ridiculous, since I want him to win he magically acts like he has never acted in the history of manga and uses the CT to win."
I tried to take a more simpler in-character example because it's fairly obvious Pain has never used CT except as a last resort and he's been in less fights than needed to provide proof. Itachi's been in plenty of them, so I'm waiting for the proof of when it's actually in character for him to just spam MS from the start before his opponent makes a hand signal to start the mist. With no knowledge on the opposition to boot
and as for meis bloodline limit..
His INCOMPLETE sussano easily tanked that and raikage's horizontal chop..
a complete susanno with yata mirror? please
As I said, it's rare for him to jump into his complete version. Madara was using the incomplete version of EMS Susano'o which is naturally superior to the incomplete version of Itachi's MS Susano'o. So, if he was in incomplete version Tsunade could easily punch through it. Itachi will have to stay in his complete version to survive so I didn't think it was much of a big deal. However it's too taxing and 2 kage levels should easily be able to outlast him in this case, especially when using all of his MS techniques at the start of the fight is totally out of character and he can't see them due to mist.
