Tsunade and Mei Vs Gaara and Temari

[TheEvilOne]

Yeah you have no idea what your talking about..

This is always a good excuse.

 

[RedRobin]

Yeah you have no idea what your talking about..

lol it took you like 15 mins to counter with that and I thought I was debating with some good debater. Nevermind then.

 

[Prince Charles]

lol it took you like 15 mins to counter with that and I thought I was debating with someone serious. Nevermind then.

This is always a good excuse.

Not worth my time.

 

[RedRobin]

Not worth my time.

Yet you stayed on the thread for a good 20 mins.

 

[Prince Charles]

Yet you stayed on the thread for a good 20 mins.

No I didn't... I simply didnt exit the browser I was doing other stuff on the internet ya know..

 

[TheTailedSage]

Its always the same people arguing for the same character coming up with the same arguments.

 

[Prince Charles]

PawsX, Hold on I changed my mind ill counter your post, Can't have my reputation being downplayed xd, Im bored anyways..

 

[RedRobin]

PawsX, Hold on I changed my mind ill counter your post, Can't have my reputation being downplayed xd, Im bored anyways..

lol ok for your reputation. But its still going to look bad when a new guy beats you.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Its always the same people arguing for the same character coming up with the same arguments.

Do you want me to come up with an asspull argument?

 

[Latios]

They don't seem to understand. Tsunade is the weakest Hokage.

 

[RedRobin]

They don't seem to understand. Tsunade is the weakest Hokage.

Thanks for being super random, what does that have to do with anything on this thread?

 

[genii96]

at this range Temari gets instantly blitzed by Tsunade. Gaara may shield himself with a layer of sand, but once Temari is out of the game he isn't beating two Kages and a boss summon.

not a chance,gaara's sand is far too fast for either to react to,neither tsunade nor mei are getting close to temari before being restrained by sand fast enough to casually intercept the black flames and point blank explosions. Not to mention that he can also protect temari too at the same time

Mei gets blitzed from the start.
Oh and even if they do get temari,so what,calling them kages dosent add anything to their skillset,if gaara flies what can they do?,one sand tsunami buries them.

Can Gaara do this? The starting distance is only two meters. Mei is also here who can use suitons to somewhat slow down Gaara's sand or she can use a water dragon to distract him, allowing Tsunade to shatter his defense with a heavenly kick of pain. [

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mei isnt getting off a suiton,and gaara is good at multitasking.restraining isnt a problem.
Water dosent slow his sand down anyway

 

[Prince Charles]

Gaara does not have that much sand in his gourd, making sand is not limitless, as seen from his fight with Kimimaro he has to stand still and bring the sand from the ground. At 2 meters they wont allow him to do that.

Sorry but I dont think crushing Tsunade will do anything when she easily heals with Byakugo.

Gaara's sand will come right at Mei and Tsunade at 2 meters and Mei suiton will be activated right away washing it away, this is all happening at the same time. He has two opponents to focus on and just the sand in his gourd to work with.

You the claim that gaara's gourd doesn't have much sand which is false which is why I said you don't know what your talking about for the most part. The quantity of the sand in Gaara's groud is enough for the likes of Mei, but regardless he has can make more sand if needed.

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^ Pretty self explanatory on the gourd part but I will not dwell on that matter any longer but you can if you wish but it will only make you look stupid.

Now on to your point regarding the distance being 2 meters.

Sasuke's chidori spear is approximately

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. So you can get an idea of how long 5 meters is, now how long is 2 meters? 2 meters is about the length of a classroom chalk board or the height of a door.

I assume you can picture the length of 2 meters in your head now?

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The distance between gaara and lee at that moment was not even 2 meters yet he was able to conjure up sand to stop lee, so saying gaara wouldn't be able to produce sand to counter or attack tsunade and Mei at 2 meters distance is fallacy.

Now look at the distance between kimimaro and gaara in this

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. We can assume that is probably a little bit over 2 meters but you get the point, gaara is more than capable of using his sand against Mei and tsunade in such a short distance. The same goes for temari with the use of her fan.

Of course crushing tsunade with sand won't kill her but it will surely slow her down leaving her open to wind attacks from temari and leaving mei in danger.

Now anyways I want to discuss this claim of temari getting speed blitzed? To my knowledge tsunade has not shown the speed to suggest she can pull this claim off? Temari on the other hand reacted to lee's leaf whirl wind[

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(btw temari has shown fast hand movement when it comes to swinging and handling her fan)

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Going over Temari's reaction/speed feats

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Anyways although these are part 1 feats, temari has shown to stay focus and immediately react to the smallest of details. She also has nice analyzing feats demonstrated against shikamaru who praised her somewhat.

Needless to say temari should be aware of tsunade's strength and will not allow her self to be hit by tsunade( not that tsunade has the speed feats to suggest she will blitz temari). Temari can easily start off the match with a wind attack at tsunade or mei or what the heck both of them.

Gaara's sand will come right at Mei and Tsunade at 2 meters and Mei suiton will be activated right away washing it away, this is all happening at the same time. He has two opponents to focus on and just the sand in his gourd to work with.

Again the gourd isnt his only means of sand which is why I didnt even want to bother with you. Mei will react when his sand grabs her and starts crushing her limbs lol? Why are you only thinking about gaara here? Temari's wind can negate the suiton right back at mei and tsunade. If Mei's hands get restrained via sand she cant perform seals for her suiton.

If you still want to continue just let me know.

 

[Latios]

Thanks for being super random, what does that have to do with anything on this thread?

How is that random? I'm trying to state that Tsunade is fodder in this match.

 

[Prince Charles]

my images stopped working for some reason of gaara's gourd quantity.

So here they are

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Hope you reply, if not you just made yourself look like the joke of NB sir.

 

[RedRobin]

You the claim that gaara's gourd doesn't have much sand which is false which is why I said you don't know what your talking about for the most part. The quantity of the sand in Gaara's groud is enough for the likes of Mei, but regardless he has can make more sand if needed.

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^ Pretty self explanatory on the gourd part but I will not dwell on that matter any longer but you can if you wish but it will only make you look stupid.

Ok you have proved its a lot, I will give you that.

Now on to your point regarding the distance being 2 meters.

Sasuke's chidori spear is approximately 5 meters at it's maximum length noticed by deidara at the same. So you can get an idea of how long 5 meters is, now how long is 2 meters? 2 meters is about the length of a classroom chalk board or the height of a door.

I assume you can picture the length of 2 meters in your head now?

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The distance between gaara and lee at that moment was not even 2 meters yet he was able to conjure up sand to stop lee, so saying gaara wouldn't be able to produce sand to counter or attack tsunade and Mei at 2 meters distance is fallacy.

Now look at the distance between kimimaro and gaara in this scan. We can assume that is probably a little bit over 2 meters but you get the point, gaara is more than capable of using his sand against Mei and tsunade in such a short distance. The same goes for temari with the use of her fan.

2 meters ~ 6 feet so imagine a 6 foot person laying between them and you will get the idea, that it is very close.

You keep saying Gaara attacks with his sand and right away restricts them and its over, Tsunade and Mei are perfectly capable of countering, the sand is going to start at their feet to slow them down, this give Mei ample time to use her suiton(

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) and at that distance that is going to get rid of the sand on Tsunade and Mei, completely soak up Gaara's gourd, Temari is not going to blast that away.

Of course crushing tsunade with sand won't kill her but it will surely slow her down leaving her open to wind attacks from temari and leaving mei in danger.

Again Mei's attack frees Tsunade and completely leaves Temari open.

Now anyways I want to discuss this claim of temari getting speed blitzed? To my knowledge tsunade has not shown the speed to suggest she can pull this claim off? Temari on the other hand reacted to lee's leaf whirl wind[1][2].

(btw temari has shown fast hand movement when it comes to swinging and handling her fan)

Going over Temari's reaction/speed feats

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Anyways although these are part 1 feats, temari has shown to stay focus and immediately react to the smallest of details. She also has nice analyzing feats demonstrated against shikamaru who praised her somewhat.

Needless to say temari should be aware of tsunade's strength and will not allow her self to be hit by tsunade( not that tsunade has the speed feats to suggest she will blitz temari). Temari can easily start off the match with a wind attack at tsunade or mei or what the heck both of them.

Tsunade kicks is 10 times more stronger than Lee's normal kick so if she were to block with the fan, it would break the fan and send Temari off a couple of meters. Temari has absolutely no taijustu feats to think she stands a chance if Tsunade gets near her is ridiculous.

Dodging a shadow is much different than dodging a person like Tsunade. Temari stands no chance here at this distance.

Again the gourd isnt his only means of sand which is why I didnt even want to both with you. Mei will react with his sand grabs her and starts crushing her limbs? Why are you only thinking about gaara here? Temari's wind can negate the suiton right back at mei and tsunade. If Mei's hands get restrained via sand she cant perform seals for her suiton.

Temari is completely outclassed here, she is not blowing off mei's suiton and not going to last against Tsunade in head to head. Again Gaara's sand will start at their feet and Mei will use her suiton right away, its a giant amount of water.

 

[Prince Charles]

2 meters ~ 6 feet so imagine a 6 foot person laying between them and you will get the idea, that it is very close.

I don't quite understand what you mean by this?

You keep saying Gaara attacks with his sand and right away restricts them and its over, Tsunade and Mei are perfectly capable of countering, the sand is going to start at their feet to slow them down, this give Mei ample time to use her suiton(x) and at that distance that is going to get rid of the sand on Tsunade and Mei, completely soak up Gaara's gourd, Temari is not going to blast that away.

I didn't necessarily mean that match is instantly over but what I meant was simply gaara plays a main role here.

The sand starts at their feats and starts their feet/legs, but before that happens Temari follows up with a fuuton attack sending both of them back and damaging Mei she does not possess healing abilities.

Ok, your idea, Mei counters with a suiton when the sand starts to come up on her foot and tsunades.
1. Either temari' counters with a fuuton sending the suiton back at mei
2. Temari & gaara take the force of the suiton thus getting pushed back
3. Gaara can put up a sand shield blocking the suiton or make sand clouds to leviate away with temari to counter Mei's suiton.

Another reason why I did not want to debate this is because with many characters 2 v 2 their are a lot of factors.

Anyway's scenario 1, All temari has to do is wave her fan and the suiton get's dispersed which means gaara can continue with sand coffin on Mei crushing her limbs and temari can follow up with a fuuton on tsunade if necessary.

Scenario 2, ok they take the brunt force of the suiton, They get knocked down for a few seconds, during that time frame we can assume Mei and tsunade will follow up with attacks, tsunade her taijutsu and mei maybe some lava?

Lava get's blown away via fuuton once temari gets back up from the suiton, Gaara's sand can keep tsunade at bay. Then theirs also sand clones.

Scenario 3, gaara blocks the suiton or make sand clouds to fly away in time(sands clouds is more likely)
He made sand clouds in time against madara

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And the speed of the sand cloud is nothing to brush off.

Tsunade kicks is 10 times more stronger than Lee's normal kick so if she were to block with the fan, it would break the fan and send Temari off a couple of meters. Temari has absolutely no taijustu feats to think she stands a chance if Tsunade gets near her is ridiculous.

Dodging a shadow is much different than dodging a person like Tsunade. Temari stands no chance here at this distance.

Temari being aware of tsunade's strength would prompt not to take direct kicks from tsunade and make the gap between them larger. Me showing those scans of temari's dodging shikamaru's shadow was me simply showing you how observant and how good temari's body react. Again show me speed of tsunade to suggest she can blitz temari?

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Temari is completely outclassed here, she is not blowing off mei's suiton and not going to last against Tsunade in head to head. Again Gaara's sand will start at their feet and Mei will use her suiton right away, its a giant amount of water.

Do you hear your self right now?

Temari's Fuuton is definitely strong enough to disperse mei's suiton, It's water. I already went over with temari's fighting tsunade, temari is no fool to bump head directly with tsunade, saying so is denying the manga when temari's intelligence has been praised and highlighted throughout the manga.

I already gave scenarios for Mei's suiton, and what if gaara makes his sand restrained Mei's arms? No hand Seal for her suiton then.

 

[Latios]

What stops Temari from using a giant wave of Futon right off the bat and blowing Tsunade and Mei across the battle field?

 

[Optimistic]

2m is the dumbest distance ever. How bias.

However Gaara can counter whatever they throw at him at the start of the match, he can easily create a distance between him and the 2 Kages along with carrying Temari. After that its a projectile game which Temari and Gaara specializes in.

Team 2 mid diffs.

 

[Prince Charles]

What stops Temari from using a giant wave of Futon right off the bat and blowing Tsunade and Mei across the battle field?

exactly, many factors to consider

2m is the dumbest distance ever. How bias.

However Gaara can counter whatever they throw at him at the start of the match, he can easily create a distance between him and the 2 Kages along with carrying Temari. After that its a projectile game which Temari and Gaara specializes in.

Team 2 mid diffs.

I agree, ridiculous distance.