Tsunade>3 tomoe itachi correct?

[Gooner4life]

Taijutsu unless you have the speed of gates or lighting armor has no chance of hitting a faster opponent with sharingan. Itachi at the very most would just trap her in tsukuyomi. I dont think people get that you can't just not look into someone eyes, gai had special training. Even if you say that would not work tsunade has noway of evading Ama. Itachi would not even need to use susanoo against Tsunade. I hate the fact that she gets overrated.

3 tomoe

 

[Gooner4life]

He didn't Care about Saving his Life ?

Once he is in it he can't react quickly enough to stop Itachi cutting his arm off.

Edit: Sorry for double posting.

 

[Sexy Steel]

I say itachi wins 6 out if 10 times tsunade is strong but I think itachi takes this, tsunade specializes in taijutsu but itachi can predict her movement so ultimately it is a non factor Summons evidently will be genjutsu'd I see this been a bad match up but tsunade's healing tech is something to consider.

 

[Zato]

Itachi's genjutsu is said to be very strong even outside of Tsukuyomi. Her fighting Itachi in a 1v1 is kinda pointless because of genjutsu. That was like the shinobi rule of fighting Uchiha. Never fight them in a 1v1 and if you do then run away.

 

[Chatte]

Taijutsu unless you have the speed of gates or lighting armor has no chance of hitting a faster opponent with sharingan. Itachi at the very most would just trap her in tsukuyomi. I dont think people get that you can't just not look into someone eyes, gai had special training. Even if you say that would not work tsunade has noway of evading Ama. Itachi would not even need to use susanoo against Tsunade. I hate the fact that she gets overrated.

To break Tsukyomi you need an outside source or a great chakra control which Tsunade posseses. Both of them, actually 3 sources as I've stated upper on this thread.

Although I am not sure and this is to be answered by Kishimoto in the end, her feats make it possible to break from it.

 

[Sexy Steel]

Well, you made this thread because of the discussion with Tazilla, didn't you?
Well to answer your question: yes!
Why?
Because she is a medical ninja and knows how brain works and because she has shown to heal Tsukyomi in an instant.

Why she would be able to break it? Well, as we know, genjutsu has to do with chakra disturbance. Well, as Tsunade has perfect chakra control she could break it with regular ease in 3 ways.

1. Her perfect chakra control.
2. Her seal which is an outer source of chakra (that's what you need to break tsukyomi so that's why I believe she would be able to break even from Tsukyomi. Still not 100% sure)
3. Katsuyu which is an outer source of chakra as well.

So yes, regular genjutsu would not be a problem for her, but I don't know about Tsukyomi though.

And your poll has some wrong answers to be honest...

Though she has feats against genjutsu but a paralysis genjutsu like the one used against orochimaru would be a problem for her. Orochimaru is said to have a 5 in genjutsu, but it didn't help him much against the paralysis genjutsu when he tried to release the genjutsu he was attacked I see that happening to tsunade.

 

[Chatte]

Through she has feats against genjutsu but a paralysis genjutsu like the one used against orochimaru would be a problem for her. Orochimaru is said to have a 5 in genjutsu, but it didn't help him much against the paralysis genjutsu when he tried to release the genjutsu he was attacked I see that happening to tsunade.

Yes, I agree about the Orochimaru statement but even Orochimaru praised Tsunade's medical skills. Remember to whom he went ultimately to heal him.

And another praise thanks to her medical skills come from Jiraya who said that they won the second or the third (can't remember correctly) ninja war thanks to her amazing medical skills.

Genjutsu, any type, even Tsukyomi is based on chakra disruption. Well, I don't know how could that work on someone who has perfect chakra control because this is the requirement no. 1 in order to become a medical nin.

 

[jay2512]

Well, you made this thread because of the discussion with Tazilla, didn't you?
Well to answer your question: yes!
Why?
Because she is a medical ninja and knows how brain works and because she has shown to heal Tsukyomi in an instant.

Why she would be able to break it? Well, as we know, genjutsu has to do with chakra disturbance. Well, as Tsunade has perfect chakra control she could break it with regular ease in 3 ways.

1. Her perfect chakra control.
2. Her seal which is an outer source of chakra (that's what you need to break tsukyomi so that's why I believe she would be able to break even from Tsukyomi. Still not 100% sure)
3. Katsuyu which is an outer source of chakra as well.

So yes, regular genjutsu would not be a problem for her, but I don't know about Tsukyomi though.

And your poll has some wrong answers to be honest...

lol well i agree that tsunade can beat itachi 3 tomoe now, i brought it up on a discussion thread so then i can get a larger variety of responses from people instead of it being in a sub thread.

im not too sure about the tsukuyomi thing yet knowing how it is instant in reality.

tazzilla88
Tsunade has proven her ability to tank katons.
Tsunade has proven that she is not slow.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in taijutsu.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in medical ninjutsu and in doing so her prowess in chakra control.
That is all that's needed to beat a 3 tomoe Itachi.

itachi has proven that he is not slow as well.. including hand seals
itachi has proven rather impressive taijutsu though its not his area of expertise
itachi has proven to catch people in genjutsu early in an encounter

itachi lacks strength and chakra
tsunade lacks genjutsu and speed(to the extent of itachi)

 

[Gooner4life]

Though she has feats against genjutsu but a paralysis genjutsu like the one used against orochimaru would be a problem for her. Orochimaru is said to have a 5 in genjutsu, but it didn't help him much against the paralysis genjutsu when he tried to release the genjutsu he was attacked I see that happening to tsunade.

Orochimaru was standing there fapping over Itachi's sharingan, if it was a fight, there is no way Oro would have been caught so easily.

 

[Chatte]

lol well i agree that tsunade can beat itachi 3 tomoe now, i brought it up on a discussion thread so then i can get a larger variety of responses from people instead of it being in a sub thread.

im not too sure about the tsukuyomi thing yet knowing how it is instant in reality.

tazzilla88
Tsunade has proven her ability to tank katons.
Tsunade has proven that she is not slow.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in taijutsu.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in medical ninjutsu and in doing so her prowess in chakra control.
That is all that's needed to beat a 3 tomoe Itachi.

itachi has proven that he is not slow as well.. including hand seals
itachi has proven rather impressive taijutsu though its not his area of expertise
itachi has proven to catch people in genjutsu early in an encounter

itachi lacks strength and chakra
tsunade lacks genjutsu and speed(to the extent of itachi)

That's why I said I am not sure about Tsukyomi... but basing its feats, meaning chakra diruption that's why I intend to believe she can. But only Kishimoto will answer that in the end.

Yes, I agree she is not that fast but she is fast enough as her primary skills are evasive movements.

I always wondered a thing... Uchihas always fought more in taijutsu rather than genjutsus with the Senju's.
Would that be because of their chakra control that allows them to break through.

Never heard Madara saying he caught Hashirama into a genjutsu.
And well, Tsunade is Senju in the end..

 

[Sexy Steel]

Yes, I agree about the Orochimaru statement but even Orochimaru praised Tsunade's medical skills. Remember to whom he went ultimately to heal him.

And another praise thanks to her medical skills come from Jiraya who said that they won the second or the third (can't remember correctly) ninja war thanks to her amazing medical skills.

Sharingan > her taijutsu
Genjutsu> her summons
Really I have said itachi wins six outta ten her healing tech is what makes this a high difficulty match for 3 Tomoe itachi itachi would have to provide something that would finish her once and for all

 

[jay2512]

Yes, I agree about the Orochimaru statement but even Orochimaru praised Tsunade's medical skills. Remember to whom he went ultimately to heal him.

And another praise thanks to her medical skills come from Jiraya who said that they won the second or the third (can't remember correctly) ninja war thanks to her amazing medical skills.

Genjutsu, any type, even Tsukyomi is based on chakra disruption. Well, I don't know how could that work on someone who has perfect chakra control because this is the requirement no. 1 in order to become a medical nin.

what exactly does the medical skills do to differ the outcome of getting sliced?

 

[realobito1]

To break Tsukyomi you need an outside source or a great chakra control which Tsunade posseses. Both of them, actually 3 sources as I've stated upper on this thread.

Although I am not sure and this is to be answered by Kishimoto in the end, her feats make it possible to break from it.

has been stated that the Tsukuyomi is to powerful and to fast for one to break from it or even get an oponent to send chakra inot their body. Both methods are not possible until proved otherwise.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Tsunade is stronger than Itachi without the MS, but she is weaker than Itachi with MS.

 

[Chatte]

Sharingan > her taijutsu
Genjutsu> her summons
Really I have said itachi wins six outta ten her healing tech is what makes this a high difficulty match for 3 Tomoe itachi itachi would have to provide something that would finish her once and for all

Your argument is invalid as you tend to overlook on my arguments regarding her feats as a medical ninja and the requirements for a genjutsu to work.

We are having a discussion here based on requirements and feats.
I already proved you how she could even break from Tsukyomi even though I admitted I am not 100% sure. In a logical manner it should be able to work.

 

[realobito1]

Who the hell said tsunade could regenerate an arm or her head if they were cut off. Are you joking. that would make her Oro and he can only do that because he used forbidden jutsu on himself

 

[jay2512]

Sharingan > her taijutsu
Genjutsu> her summons
Really I have said itachi wins six outta ten her healing tech is what makes this a high difficulty match for 3 Tomoe itachi itachi would have to provide something that would finish her once and for all

6/10 is pretty fair imo. idk why though kunais are seen as useless in this fight after one has been casted in genjutsu. could tsunade heal if shes chopped up?

 

[Blunt]

Tsukiyomi can be used by his 3-tomoe and his inherited KA can too.

 

[Sexy Steel]

That's why I said I am not sure about Tsukyomi... but basing its feats, meaning chakra diruption that's why I intend to believe she can. But only Kishimoto will answer that in the end.

Yes, I agree she is not that fast but she is fast enough as her primary skills are evasive movements.

I always wondered a thing... Uchihas always fought more in taijutsu rather than genjutsus with the Senju's.
Would that be because of their chakra control that allows them to break through.

Never heard Madara saying he caught Hashirama into a genjutsu.
And well, Tsunade is Senju in the end..

Considering Konoha had constant attacks from the uchiha it is possible he developed a counter similar to how gai developed his not saying they are the same but just because she is senju doesn't mean she is supposedly immune to genjutsu
Another special thing about itachi is that opponents don't realize when they are in genjutsu once again orochimaru was used as an example he also as finger genjutsu
The way I see it only someone with sharingan can stand up to otachi's genjutsu if they are caught.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Who the hell said tsunade could regenerate an arm or her head if they were cut off. Are you joking. that would make her Oro and he can only do that because he used forbidden jutsu on himself

Looool

Read again the part when Tsunade says that she cant die in a battle. Ever. This means that she can grow back her head. xd