Tsuki no Me was Insulting

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There were no other possible candidates, its a commitment job.

Its her dream, Dan wanted to be Hokage and she supported him, that's why she gave him that necklace, just as she supports Naruto's dream.

Her perfect world is a world where her loved ones are alive and their all happy and their dreams come true.

Being Hokage wasn't her dream at all, the people she loved being happy and together was her dream.
Exactly Jiraiya was the one would talked her into it anyway she had no interesting being Hokage so it makes perfect sense she wanted a world where he team was still perfect and her lover and brother is alive.

OT: only one i can agree with it chouji
 

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This guy talks as if he knows everything about character depth. Lel.​

He puts them in categories rather than looking at them as individual characters with different personalities.

In all honesty this is pretty much what i expected from their dreams.

Obviously tusnade would be reunited with Dan and Nawaki and Jiraiya. Interesting that orochimaru was there tho.

Lee beating Neji and Naruto with handwork and the power of youth.

Choji getting a hot girl who likes fat guys lol.

Etc.

Im glad they were just glanced over and not taking up a lot of panels but with one smile picture we know their deepest desires.

I just hope Team 7 gets caught in it and we get an in depth Dream for them. Mostly Kakashi, Naruto, and Sasuke.

Then Naruto and Sasuke break out of it and finish of Kagudara
 

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Unfortunately i agree.
I was really hyped and hoping for some meaningful dreams, but damn... Some were recycled, petty and annoying attitudes, others were shallow to the core, once again all the females want is some d... all i felt while reading this chapter was boredom, it felt really amateur (and the ending omfg, awful) :|

I'm rarely negative about the way things happen in the manga (of course there're exceptions) but this time i really felt like sharing my negativity (due to how good this chapter could've been).

Mm. I try not to moan either but this is the first chapter in a while that's actually involved me due to the characters used, especially after that fantastic gamechanger last week, Hoping for better next chapter.
 

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This guy talks as if he knows everything about character depth. Lel.​

Dude I study this sh*t for college. I'm not saying i'm good at it but it's like the only part of the manga I actually care about at this point. Especially as i've watched some of these characters grow for like 6-7 years now...Don't be a douche.
 

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Dude I study this sh*t for college. I'm not saying i'm good at it but it's like the only part of the manga I actually care about at this point. Especially as i've watched some of these characters grow for like 6-7 years now...Don't be a douche.

Dont mind him. Hes upset his one and only fav was completely neg-diff'd this chapter.
 

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Now that I think about it my favourite anime Gurren Lagann had a similar dreamworld state right bef.re that series' finale. And that one was REALLY short but finished off the characters arc to a T.

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Dont mind him. Hes upset his one and only fav was completely neg-diff'd this chapter.

Welcome to the rejected and bitter bench Demetri. Take a seat alongside us Obito fans, NOW you know how it feels :')
 

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Sigh, I knew you would make this thread in regard to Kaguya which honestly should'v been the Final Villain however I would say this: the way Kishi handled Madara was absolute trollicious and honestly disappointing ever since he got the Juubi powerups, he's totally underwhelming.

Now you know how I feel about Neji getting trolled??


As for the Dream world, there isn't really anything to complain about, it's only a dream and their desire but not base entirely only to showcase losing hope over the reality.
 
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Sigh, I knew you would make this thread in regard to Kaguya which honestly should'v been the Final Villain however I would say this: the way Kishi handled Madara was absolute trollicious and honestly disappointing ever since he got the Juubi powerups, he's totally underwhelming.

Now you know how I feel about Neji getting trolled??


As for the Dream world, there isn't really anything to complain about, it's only a dream and their desire only to showcase losing hope over the reality.
Aha I didn't even speak about Kaguya dude :')

Whilst Kaguya annoys me, I don't care so much and i'm not going to moan about it because i'm beyond it. There's 100 threads on it already and although the third consecutive villain in a row in this empty wasteland is getting tiring it's not my business. I'll just be repeating the exact same thing I said when Madara took over Obito as MV.

For me the manga ended when Obito was defeated. Everything that's happening now is like a fun 'what if' ending and honestly? It was working til this chapter. I've never cared about Naruto mythology nobodies personally. Those are my words on the matter, no more :)
 

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how exactly was it insulting? it seems to me your taking to way to seriously, their desires and feelings are being met in a dream? It's not that serious.
 

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Aha I didn't even speak about Kaguya dude :')

Whilst Kaguya annoys me, I don't care so much and i'm not going to moan about it because i'm beyond it. There's 100 threads on it already and although the third consecutive villain in a row in this empty wasteland is getting tiring it's not my business. I'll just be repeating the exact same thing I said when Madara took over Obito as MV.

For me the manga ended when Obito was defeated. Everything that's happening now is like a fun 'what if' ending and honestly? It was working til this chapter. I've never cared about Naruto mythology nobodies personally. Those are my words on the matter, no more :)

I know you're probably ranting indirectly to kaguya, but anyway the theme with the Villains taking over after another is getting old and irritating and I would've been pissed, but since I love Kaguya so much and the intimation is strong especially with the last chapter with her rape face, I don't have problem with that which is quite unusual, because it is something that I've been disappointing with this war arc for a while losing hope for this series.
 

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I know you're probably ranting indirectly to kaguya, but anyway the theme with the Villains taking over after another is getting old and irritating and I would've been pissed, but since I love Kaguya so much and the intimation is strong especially with the last chapter with her rape face, I don't have problem with that which is quite unusual, because it is something that I've been disappointing with this war arc for a while losing hope for this series.

I wish she'd been introduced earlier on in the series. Why couldn't Hidan's god be Kaguya or something? Idk just im not comfortable with relinquishing control of this manga from Obito who unleashed the Kyuubi and started the show from the beginning to some cool mythology guy we've heard stories about and was revived a couple months ago to some chick we literally knew nothing about last year.

That said she's better than the Sage and her sons, she seems like a character I would've liked- if introduced under less desperate circumstances. What was the point of Madara?
 

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I wish she'd been introduced earlier on in the series. Why couldn't Hidan's god be Kaguya or something? Idk just im not comfortable with relinquishing control of this manga from Obito who unleashed the Kyuubi and started the show from the beginning to some cool mythology guy we've heard stories about and was revived a couple months ago to some chick we literally knew nothing about last year.

That said she's better than the Sage and her sons, she seems like a character I would've liked- if introduced under less desperate circumstances. What was the point of Madara?

I think there was a theory about Jashin and all the god that revolve around Kaguya, but anyway Madara did complete his goals and still believe what he's doing even despite Black Zetsu stabbed him in the back getting tricked. Furthermore, unlike every indra generation, Madara was the only one who create new problems and willingly obtaining to reach the power of Kaguya but with his own ideals.

So that right here earned my respect to Madara even though I was never interested in him in the first place.


As for Kaguya, you made a point that it's understandable that she was just introduce in the last 10+ chapters which seems "Asspull" to most people but regardless it still make sense that she's the one who corrupted the ninja world in the first place and I think you're missing out with Kishimoto clearly taking out the Princess Kaguya Legend and the Bamboo references and implemented into his story so who knows if Kishi really did planned out all along.
 
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Thats what happens when the rest of k11 get no chara development in shippuden
 

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Numbers, you're a great member and I usually enjoy reading your posts and threads and I respect your opinion, which is why I thanked. However..

I don't see the major issue or flaw with Hinata's dream. What I saw when I looked at the panel, was Hinata being genuinely happy with the man she's always loved since she was a child. Genuine, real love. It's not infatuation, it's not lust, Hinata loves Naruto and she's enjoying a nice day out with him. She's surrounded by a few loved family members, Hanabi and Neji I presume. Also, why would she mourn Neji's death in this dream world when everything is happy in the dream world? According to Madara, there is no sorrow. In the world of lies, Hinata and everyone else are being deceived because ignorance is bliss.

Not trying to be biased but I believe Gaara's was the best, and most sincere. Hinata's would be placed at numero dos for me. Almost everything else you said was on point, though.​
 

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Numbers, you're a great member and I usually enjoy reading your posts and threads and I respect your opinion, which is why I thanked. However..

I don't see the major issue or flaw with Hinata's dream. What I saw when I looked at the panel, was Hinata being genuinely happy with the man she's always loved since she was a child. Genuine, real love. It's not infatuation, it's not lust, Hinata loves Naruto and she's enjoying a nice day out with him. She's surrounded by a few loved family members, Hanabi and Neji I presume. Also, why would she mourn Neji's death in this dream world when everything is happy in the dream world? According to Madara, there is no sorrow. In the world of lies, Hinata and everyone else are being deceived because ignorance is bliss.

Not trying to be biased but I believe Gaara's was the best, and most sincere. Hinata's would be placed at numero dos for me. Almost everything else you said was on point, though.​

Fair enough, not every character can be totally strong and independent, it's just more of the same yknow? I always want to see more from the girl and she never really delivers. I can't think of a line where she spoke about anything BUT naruto.

Neji's death was totally in vain if Hinata doesn't decide to step up and become head of the Hyuuga clan, she just hasn't showed too much interest in it at all.
 

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I think you, my friend, have been living in this "feministic" world for far too long. You think Tsuande really cares about her hokage position? The reason she took it up was because of Dan and her brother. It's no wonder she wants to be his housewife. Mei, she's an older woman still waiting to get married. She became hokage, what other aspirations could she have??

Get over yourself, bud
PS. I'm glad you feel like you think you can analyze an individual and immediately speculate their deepest desires and dreams. Kudos to you
 
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You're taking it too hard, the genjutsu is just a dream world where they can have any desire childish or serious. I'm thinking this is showing some of their simple desires.
Tsuande-She wants Dan back, don't know why he is hokage tho.
Hinata-Come on now. How could you complain about this one. Naruto is her inspiration and is always on her mind, so it makes sense for her dream to be her with Naruto the man of her dreams. Neji and Hanabi are in the background to show what she also wants them back too. Again it's a dream world, she probably is the head of the Hyuga clan if she imagines it.
Shino-He wants to explore the world of insects. They are VERY important to him.
Ino-Just showing her basic desires, now she can be all powerful in her own world and get boys she wants instead of sh*t like her dad dying. It's like a guy dreaming and there are hot girls everywhere but his family isn't there but the guy cares about his family.
Shikamaru-Wants things to be good as shown by Asuma and his dad being alive. His complaining is just for comical affect or something. No need to get mad about it bro.
Choji-basic desires gets food he wants and a pretty girl.
In conclusion, Kishimoto is showing what they want basically to give us the readers an idea of Infinite Tsuyomiki. If he spent the whole time elaborating on everyone's dreams people would start complaining the chapter is pointless(kishi just can't f*cking win with this fanbase). It's all happiness the K11 don't need to care about anything. I thought there dreams were kind of funny, and alright it didn't ruin the characters.
 

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I think you, my friend, have been living in this "feministic" world for far too long. You think Tsuande really cares about her hokage position? The reason she took it up was because of Dan and her brother. It's no wonder she wants to be his housewife. Mei, she's an older woman still waiting to get married. She became hokage, what other aspirations could she have??

Get over yourself, bud
PS. I'm glad you feel like you think you can analyze an individual and immediately speculate their deepest desires and dreams. Kudos to you

Wow what a ****.

It's common knowledge Kishi is a sh*t writer for female characters.
 
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