Tsuchikage stronger than hokage...?

[hyugastyle]

it would seem that the tsuchikage seem to outlive most hokages and lived in the eras of the previous kages as well. it was stated that the hokage was the strongest kage in the five shadows. i dont agree with thatU_U. that was said by someone of konoha.

plus a little side thing just for the boys and girls, is ohnoki stronger than tsunade?

i say yes. i dont like giving explainations, people are entitle to their own oppinions so i keep mines to my self. who is stronger in your eyes?

 

[Hipster Madara]

oonoki (however u spell that) is stronger
hokages are always the most powerful so everyone targets them and the leaf village so they have to protect it and stuff

 

[Koibito]

I believe that all hokages prior to Tsunade were stronger than the tsuchikages, oonoki puts tsunade to shame

 

[hyugastyle]

i put "ohnoki" because thats the shonen jump version. its funny that tsuchikage was able to carry the turtle. i dont think even tsunade can do that while walking. xd

 

[Narutobi Sensei]

oonoki > tsunade
all previous kage > oonoki
enough said .

 

[Lt Fresh]

Yes he is stronger of course. But a fight between Muu and the 2nd hokage.... I give it to Muu. Tsuchikages rival Hokages

 

[hyugastyle]

Yes he is stronger of course. But a fight between Muu and the 2nd hokage.... I give it to Muu. Tsuchikages rival Hokages

agreed

 

[ganjababy]

r u guys high explain to me how exactly would hiruzen beat oonoki!! 2nd hokage has space-time ninjutsu to escape his dust attacks and 1st hokage was in a league of his own but hiruzen sucked, oonoki would rape him, it wouldn't even be fair!!

oonoki will rape every hokage except 1st 2nd and 4th

 

[hyugastyle]

who said he would beat ohnoki? he said "RIVAL THE HOKAGES"

 

[NLee]

r u guys high explain to me how exactly would hiruzen beat oonoki!! 2nd hokage has space-time ninjutsu to escape his dust attacks and 1st hokage was in a league of his own but hiruzen sucked, oonoki would rape him, it wouldn't even be fair!!

oonoki will rape every hokage except 1st 2nd and 4th

Hiruzen is said to have been the strongest Hokage in history. Pay attention to the manga.

Oonoki and Hiruzen were also known as friends. It's not unlikely to think they were close in strength.

 

[ganjababy]

Hiruzen is said to have been the strongest Hokage in history. Pay attention to the manga.

Oonoki and Hiruzen were also known as friends. It's not unlikely to think they were close in strength.

am ok the manga say he was strongest in history, find me a raikage or tsuchikage or mizukage that he can beat?

the manga says he is but i think everyone in the forums can see that he isn't he is a basic shinobi, nothing special about him, and im sure the 4th hokage is stronger than him also the 1st and 2nd

hiruzen has displayed nothing to prove his worth, and please no one mention that fight against orochimaru cause that was a very very poor excuse of what the 1st and 2nd could do in battle.

and itachi crippled orochimaru with a mere genjutsu! so wtf even itachi will rape hiruzen,

 

[NLee]

am ok the manga say he was strongest in history, find me a raikage or tsuchikage or mizukage that he can beat?

the manga says he is but i think everyone in the forums can see that he isn't he is a basic shinobi, nothing special about him, and im sure the 4th hokage is stronger than him also the 1st and 2nd

hiruzen has displayed nothing to prove his worth, and please no one mention that fight against orochimaru cause that was a very very poor excuse of what the 1st and 2nd could do in battle.

and itachi crippled orochimaru with a mere genjutsu! so wtf even itachi will rape hiruzen,

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Says clear as day. Kabuto states Hiruzen is said to be the strongest Kage of his time. This includes Onoki. A/A's father, and the Mizukages.

The manga says he was. Yet, you still think he isn't. Very intuitive of you.

Fact of the matter is, what the manga says is tantamount to fact seeing that it's Kishi who makes them say what they say

 

[ganjababy]

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Says clear as day. Kabuto states Hiruzen is said to be the strongest Kage of his time. This includes Onoki. A/A's father, and the Mizukages.

The manga says he was. Yet, you still think he isn't. Very intuitive of you.

Fact of the matter is, what the manga says is tantamount to fact seeing that it's Kishi who makes them say what they say

w/e man hiruzen cant beat the mizukage or the raikage or the tsuchikage and everyone knows that so that manga means nothing
and how the **** can he be stronger than hashirama or minato or the 2nd? r u retarded?
tell me one good jutsu he has? other than the death reaper sela which he copy from minato, tell me one jutsu hiruzen has that is unstoppable? i bet you cant, hiruzen sucks

and if u read the manga clearly they said its because he bears the title hokage why he is considered the strongest of all kages not because of his skill, so from that its because minato, the 2nd and 1st were so op that everyone automatically assume that the hokage who ever it is is the strongest kage so gtfo

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

r u guys high explain to me how exactly would hiruzen beat oonoki!! 2nd hokage has space-time ninjutsu to escape his dust attacks and 1st hokage was in a league of his own but hiruzen sucked, oonoki would rape him, it wouldn't even be fair!!

oonoki will rape every hokage except 1st 2nd and 4th

Do you go to thread to thread saying the same dumb s**t?I hope someone rapes you

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[NLee]

w/e man hiruzen cant beat the mizukage or the raikage or the tsuchikage and everyone knows that so that manga means nothing
and how the **** can he be stronger than hashirama or minato or the 2nd? r u retarded?
tell me one good jutsu he has? other than the death reaper sela which he copy from minato, tell me one jutsu hiruzen has that is unstoppable? i bet you cant, hiruzen sucks

and if u read the manga clearly they said its because he bears the title hokage why he is considered the strongest of all kages not because of his skill, so from that its because minato, the 2nd and 1st were so op that everyone automatically assume that the hokage who ever it is is the strongest kage so gtfo

You know it's really sad that you can't bring up legitimate facts or points to you're arguments. It's especially pathetic when you use phrases like "gtfo" and "r u retarded" because you have nothing to say.

Listen kid. Anyone in here will agree that what the manga says is as close as you're gonna get to the truth. Obviously there's room to debate but apparently that's not what you're doing. If you're gonna counter-prove something or flat out try to shoot it down then do it with valid facts.

Fact of the matter is Hiruzen has been said to have been the strongest Hokage in history. Minato is a close runner-up, but Hiruzen in his prime is a force to be reckoned with. Aside from that, he was also known as one of the strongest ninjas in history. Every bit of this comes from the manga from one point or another. Official databooks are also a credible source.

You wanna debate this with me? Fine, I don't mind. But if you can't bring solid points to the table then just quit. The last thing I have time for is senseless trash talking back and forth with a 10 year old.