its the other way around, j- man manage to make pain go all out, while kakashi can'tYou realise you've just bashed all of Jiraiya's feats?
Your logic is flawed, Pain tried to kill Kakashi one more than occasion
so if you continue this argument you're just supporting my clains. You do understand that, right?
what kakashi figure out is deva ability, which is shinra tensei and banso tenin,Nope. Kakashi figured most of it before they even arrived, he even confirmed it with Choji/Chouza.
.Read above. As I already explained Choji/Chouza hindered his attack, you have yet to refute this
nope, but you bringing that naruto mattersDid I deny this?
chibaku tensei ?Kakashi and Gai at the same time? They have a chance.
8 gates
plus Kamui spam
counters
=insane
LOL WTH DID I JUST READ? wow....terrible postyes pain is not even trying, j-man even stated that nagato maybe underestimate him, but after entering SM, pain summon the other 2 and after that he finally acknowledge jiraiya by bringing all the path
right back at you
-point number 2 is not right, kakashi is not alone when he figure out that 5 sec interval, the fodders help him to do that,
-and kakashi went to fight with j-man info
-so are you saying pain with full power will lose against kakashi and gai ?
why don't you think about your ridiculous claim ?LOL WTH DID I JUST READ? wow....terrible post
dude stop posting, your just embarassing yourself now
Lol fool! Don't put words in my mouth.You underestimate kakashi and gai only infants do thatwhy don't you think about your ridiculous claim ?
about kakashi and gai can beat j-man and oro in 1 vs 1 battle,
now that's the real shame
You're taking things out of context, and still haven't refuted my earlier point.its the other way around, j- man manage to make pain go all out, while kakashi can't
what kakashi figure out is deva ability, which is shinra tensei and banso tenin,
not the 5 sec interval
.
no, the one who hinder the last attack from kakashi combo with chouza and chouji is the wrecked ashura path,
nope, but you bringing that naruto matters
chibaku tensei ?
ultimate shinra tensei ?
gedo mazo ?
multiple summon ?
think again, they can't win without plot no jutsu
lol sannin level? a title which was given out to them by someone who beat the shit out of whem when they were younger.other than the fact kahashi isnt on the sannin level.
How many chapters ago was that? Since then Kakashi got stronger? Do you think Orochimaru did? IF you do, be my guest to PROVE IT.kahashi himself admitted he cant beat orocihmaru
Read my earlier posts, horrible point.and on top of that admitted he couldnt take on two pains and commented jiraiya for taking on 3 and owning them.
Baseless.thats fact. there;'s nothing to argue about.
Lmao. Read the manga, and this time pay attention.its been in the manga and its obvious to notice even it wasnt stated.
stop splitinf hairs..
-your earlier point ? i believe i already answer that in the very post you quote recently, kakashi figure out deva ability which is shinra tensei and basho tenin, and then later he explain it to chouza how the jutsu works,You're taking things out of context, and still haven't refuted my earlier point.
I think we should just agree to disagree since it's obvious where you view Kakashi and Gai in power
you even stated "Jiraiya would stomp them"
but quite frankly, ypu haven't backed up your claims with legimate feats. At first you brought up Jiraiya's feats against Pain, but then even stated "Pain wasn't even trying"
lolz
Fixed .kakashi and gai have a good chance of beating the sannin, so they should be comparable in power.
no one underestimate them, its just that they will still lose against oro and j-manLol fool! Don't put words in my mouth.You underestimate kakashi and gai only infants do that
no... they can't beat oroFixed .
no... they can't beat oro
they can't beat jman
and they can't tsunade
so how are they sannin level again?
..........
Even Kabuto easily beat her, she is just an overgrown Sakura :flaw:
Please don't get the started, as the manga has proven this already![]()
They can beat Tsunade.no... they can't beat oro
they can't beat jman
and they can't tsunade
so how are they sannin level again?
feats because they fight lol tsunade is the hokage and rarely gets action screentime aside from this warThey can beat Tsunade.
They can beat Jiraiya. (Jiraiya takes it more often than not though)
Kakashi can beat Orochimaru. (Oro is a horrible matchup for Gai, but with edo tensei prepped he has the advantage over Kakashi) However Kakashi has the skill and jutsu to take him out also.
So how are they not sannin level again?
Check out the last Kakashi vs Tsunade thread, most people on this site agree Kakashi>Tsunade. Gai>Tsunade
Futhermore, Tsunade is a sannin.
However your opinion differs from my mine (I have no idea why since the manga has made it obvious Kakashi and Gai are superior to Tsunade, feat-wise)
1.) they are holding their strengths because of the great drawback and would only use it on extreme/emergency conditions.They surpassed tsunade before the war even began they were holding their own against multiple v2 jins and beat the swordsman etc. I think it's kind of obvious.
Jiraiya is probably on their level but orochimaru got embarassed by a old man
and tsunade is just crap
dogs>frogs dude, true storyxdand if jman were to summon the frogs what would kakashi do?
my bad, pakkun is just on another level xddogs>frogs dude, true storyxd
She's had more than a lot of characters in this manga.feats because they fight lol tsunade is the hokage and rarely gets action screentime aside from this war
The guy who defeated by Itachi's BASE genjutsu is tiers above Kakashi and Gai? Based on tanking a tbb? Lolz. And you're saying the gates are nothing to him despite knowing the hype surrounding the final gate. Lmaolol at gai standing a chance against oro, he tanked a tbb, the gates are nothing to him also he has edo tensei, that snake mode against sasuke, which has POISON..smh oro is tiers above kakashi and gai
No you didn't, lmao. "He can't kill her" is baseless and biased.go look at that thread i ended that nonsense of kakashi > tsunade
he can't kill her, and she has mutiple ways of killing him
If Kakashi put a raikiri through his skull what would Jiraiya do? If Kakashi's raiton bunshin paralyzed Jiraiya what would he do? Stop taking things out of context.and if jman were to summon the frogs what would kakashi do?