[Theory] Truth about Hashirama's Death,Tobi & Zetsu Origins

[Naruto9001]

This is false Hashirama didn't get split into any entites Kabuto specifically said in order to do edo tensei there soul most be in the dead realm he was brought back by edo tensei so false.

 

[Frikid]

a very goood theory

 

[Killer Vision]

This is false Hashirama didn't get split into any entites Kabuto specifically said in order to do edo tensei there soul most be in the dead realm he was brought back by edo tensei so false.

The body of the original entity is never lost. remember now that the body jibuu is still there, its just trap on the moon

 

[Naruto9001]

The body of the original entity is never lost. remember mow that the body jibuu is still there, its just trap on the moon

I wasn't talking about the body im talking about the soul in order for the edo tensei to work the soul must be in this dimension so if it's sealed or is in the reaper death seal world they cant be resurected.

 

[psukkar]

I like it, how hasihrama died would be an important event to add to the story. Because as we can see hasihrama dying in a war with his techs is not likely. Hes too massive in scale to even get sourrned. Unless he literally was talking on a couple of tailed beasts and a large amount of shinobi i cant see how he died before his brother.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Yeah, this is pretty good +rep

 

[Red Monster]

nice one killer vision..

 

[Floydical]

I wasn't talking about the body im talking about the soul in order for the edo tensei to work the soul must be in this dimension so if it's sealed or is in the reaper death seal world they cant be resurected.

Well his theory says nothing about Hashi's soul still residing in one of the 3 entities that his body split into. Perhaps White Zetsu, Black Zetsu and Tobi were created from Hashi but none contain his soul? Your point is well taken, but don't think Hashi being revived falsifies his thoery, because it doesn't. After all, we have the hashi statue and that doesn't contain his soul or anything.

 

[cyco22]

might be but why was tobi afraid of madara while kabuto used his justu to rebirth real madara

 

[GrimReaperoftheHiddenLeaf]

Re: Truth about Hashirama's Death,Tobi & Zetsu Origins [THEORY]

Thought I was reading a fanfic for a minute.

Epic fail

 

[~Annihilator~]

Nice theory. +Rep for ya. =DD

 

[Killer Vision]

I wasn't talking about the body im talking about the soul in order for the edo tensei to work the soul must be in this dimension so if it's sealed or is in the reaper death seal world they cant be resurected.

The Jubi is alive even as we speak, the weakened being that left of it is nothing more but trap in the moon for now. the creation of all things does not trap your soul or kill you, what it does is it takes away the power or chakra and transform it to living entities like what the bijuus are now. the same can be said in my theory, madara and hashirasa didnt die because of the jutsu but the cause of their death was the fatality of their battle wounds inflicted by each other thus enabling the Reanimation Jutsu or what we call Edo tensai

 

[Killer Vision]

might be but why was tobi afraid of madara while kabuto used his justu to rebirth real madara

he wasnt scared but more of surprise that madara was in reanimation jutsu as their original plan was to revive him using the Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique and knowing to well that edo tensai will completely bond madara to kabuto...tobi was eager to learn the secrets of the Edo tensai from kabuto.

 

[Maunten]

When Madara & Hashirama fought, Madara lost but during the battle he was severely inflicted with a senju technique that put him in the brink of death.

Strugling to survive..he would realize something...There was a change happening to him..within him..inside his body. The Jutsu that hashirama used to deliver the final blow that severed Madara's body left a radiating & unique sensation, then he realize that his Uchiha body was able to adapt the healing factor that Hashirama was using during their battle...and it was slowly bringing the life back at him..on this very moment, he activated his RINNEGAN.

After the activation of his new Dojutsu he would decipher the secrets of the Sage of Six Paths...learning the secrets Jutsus and formulated a Plan to get back the power of the Jibu..to be its Jinjuriki..The Moon Eye Plan...but i order to do this he needs more power to counter the possibility of a shinobi alliance waiting to happen & would stand against him.
After completely recovering he devise an initial plan to erase the shinobi that he considered the greatest threat to him..HASHIRAMA.

He sent a secret message to Hashirama, telling him about a sinister plan that he formulated to convince the hokage to duel with him in secret. Hashirama knew that he might not comback alive this time so he past on the title of Hokage to his younger brother..Tobirama.

When they fought for the 2nd time. Madara won..but something went terribly wrong with his plan. Hashirama was able to put up a galant stand that resulted to him having fatally wounded Madara.
Madara out of desperation used the CREATION OF ALL THINGS to split Hashirama into three entities. These entities would became what we know now as White Zetsu. Black Zetsu..and Tobi.

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But Madara was not finished with this..refusing to give up on his plan..before he took his last breath, he use creation of all things to himself.. splitting his power into two..the first half on his dying body, the other half infusing HIMSELF to tobi..to carry out his devised plan that included him later being revived by tobi using the Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique.

This is just my own Theory guys and i hope you enjoy reading it.

Thank you for those who read it.

Great theory, I think madara splitting his chakra is really good, he can do it during his last breath if he had enough strength and that would save his life, maybe that's why tobi said he was a shell of his former self after that fight.

What I don't understand though is, why didn't tobi just resurrect madara when he got the rinnegan, you would expect that to be the first thing he does.

 

[Killer Vision]

Great theory, I think madara splitting his chakra is really good, he can do it during his last breath if he had enough strength and that would save his life, maybe that's why tobi said he was a shell of his former self after that fight.

What I don't understand though is, why didn't tobi just resurrect madara when he got the rinnegan, you would expect that to be the first thing he does.

Yeah..for some reason he gave it up to nagato and it would seem he wanted to collect the bijuu 1st..ill have to post for that also. thanks bro.

 

[alexu9696]

i belive you like fary tails .. and i am a logical person .. who likes facts and evidence ... so i dont agree with nothing you have said

 

[Stark]

Mind blowing +rep

 

[senpaisama]

this is much better than f**** kagami and obito theory.. +rep bro!

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Very creative, and fun to read. +rep

 

[Floydical]

Great theory, I think madara splitting his chakra is really good, he can do it during his last breath if he had enough strength and that would save his life, maybe that's why tobi said he was a shell of his former self after that fight.

What I don't understand though is, why didn't tobi just resurrect madara when he got the rinnegan, you would expect that to be the first thing he does.

Maybe he was too weak to perform the jutsu and once he became strong enough, he couldn't perform the tech anymore. Remember how Nagato implied it had a time limit? But perhaps having the Juubi's chakra could bypass all time limits..... just a thought.