Trollkage vs Hiruzen
- Thread starter Conspirator.
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That's not a physical method of sensing. His and Muu's hiding techniques are not that easy to bypass.
The Alliance had many sensors as well. None of them could find the Mizukage.
super yang
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hiruzen wins
he can find the clam underground & 1-shot it w/ enma staff
then he literally blows troll & joki away
he can find the clam underground & 1-shot it w/ enma staff
then he literally blows troll & joki away
Lol no! Genjutsu affects all 5 senses! Your perception of smell let alone vision will only be allowed to see and smell what the mizukage wants you to see or smell!
No he is not, he is a tracker.
Underground????? What? When the genjutsu is up it's over if the mizu decides to joki him or simply head shot.
super yang
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alternatively, hiruzen makes 4 clones & spams shadow clone shuriken to locate the clam & 1-combos it w/ ninjutsu.
before literally blowing troll & joki away
before literally blowing troll & joki away
That Neutralizer though..
OT: Trollkage may take. Hiruzen as Draegod stated is a Tracker, not a Sensor. Also, you need physical sensing methods (such as how Gaara had his Sand Sensing sense, and engulf the clams location) to defeat Trollkages Genjutsu.
OT: Trollkage may take. Hiruzen as Draegod stated is a Tracker, not a Sensor. Also, you need physical sensing methods (such as how Gaara had his Sand Sensing sense, and engulf the clams location) to defeat Trollkages Genjutsu.
That is, actually, a physical method of sensing. He physically smells the clam.
Funny, because Hiruzen was smelling fine when he was under Hashirama's Bringer of Darkness genjutsu
SnakeSkinBlade
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He also physically 'sees' the clam, but he doesn't. See the point i'm trying to make?
A physical method of sensing is a method which requires touch. Smelling doesn't fall under that category.
No its not. 'Contact sensing' implies physical contact, touch. If you smell something you're not touching it, you're just smelling it.
The Alliance had a myriad of different shinobi and resources availuable. The Inuzuka were seen fighting. Am i supposed to believe they only had traditional sensors among that division?
Only physical methods were shown to work against him and Muu. I don't see any point in delving in my imagination and consider other possibilities when this seems the most likely to me.
2nd Mizukage wins, mid-diff imo.
Mizukage wins this
--Hiruzen is still getting affected by genjutsu, seeing how his genjutsu completely affects the surrounding including the users perception, which is why sniffing or any ordinary sensing methods wont work
--Mizukage can then use water bullets to attack Hiruzen or use Joki Boy to blow him up
--Hiruzen is still getting affected by genjutsu, seeing how his genjutsu completely affects the surrounding including the users perception, which is why sniffing or any ordinary sensing methods wont work
--Mizukage can then use water bullets to attack Hiruzen or use Joki Boy to blow him up
super yang
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actually, this is the one ''illusion'' that doesn't affect the senses. because this illusion isn't a genjutsu, its a physical mirage.
it doesn't take control of the victims chakra network & senses, in other words.
the reason sensing wont work is because of the AoE of the illusion conflicting w/ sensory perception as well as troll constantly changing his location as he attacks targets
