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Hahaha thanks again for training, but since my training thread is filled with spam I'll just tell you what we got up to. We only got up to the part where he tells me what sound is.

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Hahaha thanks again for training, but since my training thread is filled with spam I'll just tell you what we got up to. We only got up to the part where he tells me what sound is.

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Good. Let's do it from scratch. xd Tell me what sound is in real life and what it is in our RP? What are its properties? What's it composed of? How does it travel? Everything you can think of.
 

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Good. Let's do it from scratch. xd Tell me what sound is in real life and what it is in our RP? What are its properties? What's it composed of? How does it travel? Everything you can think of.
Hmm well without getting into an entire science rant about it, sound is of course waves of pressure composed of frequencies that need a medium to travel, such as air or water and also within our hearing range. I say within our hearing range because if it's not within said range than we don't hear therefor it is not..sound..? Which stems the question - If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, does a hipster buy it's album? (BA-DUM TSS XD)

Now within the aspects of our rp and without the use of the wiki I would say sound or ototon is the use ninjutsu based on hearing, even within our rp it should still retain real life properties, traveling in waves and invisible to the naked eye. The first ninjas within Naruto to use sound used it by releasing the sound waves through an emitter on their wrists im pretty sure.
 

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Hmm well without getting into an entire science rant about it, sound is of course waves of pressure composed of frequencies that need a medium to travel, such as air or water and also within our hearing range. I say within our hearing range because if it's not within said range than we don't hear therefor it is not..sound..? Which stems the question - If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, does a hipster buy it's album? (BA-DUM TSS XD)

Now within the aspects of our rp and without the use of the wiki I would say sound or ototon is the use ninjutsu based on hearing, even within our rp it should still retain real life properties, traveling in waves and invisible to the naked eye. The first ninjas within Naruto to use sound used it by releasing the sound waves through an emitter on their wrists im pretty sure.
Oh no, I want to get scientific. Sound is a very delicate element. Very precise and very powerful if performed correctly, however, every wrong use can also backfire at you, so you have to be careful.

If you don't hear the sound then it's either infrasound or ultrasound. The range of human hearing is between 20hz and 20khz. Infrasound is everything below 20hz and it doesn't have damaging properties and it focuses on crowd control and disorienting the opponent, while everything above 20khz can cause actual damage to your body.

Now there are three main properties that define sound. As you said, those are a medium and frequency, but you forgot to mention vibration. Now what is their correlation? You use the medium to cause vibrations which then produce the frequencies that travel form one point to another, transmitting those same vibrations. In this case, the medium can be literally anything. A stick, your vocal chords, a sound emitter device, etc. The higher the amount of vibrations the higher the frequency. We can also add the substance through which the sound waves travel into the bunch and then we're complete.

Now, I'm borrowing this part from Wesobi's traning because I find it very interesting.

Frequency

First of all, a frequency is measured in Hertz. A frequency in theory is how many waves pass a certain point in a certain amount of time. So, basically, the lower the interval, the higher the frequency.

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Now, the cool thing is, adjusting the frequency. A higher frequency is a higher pitched tone, while a lower frequency is a lower pitched tone. If you listen to music and hear the bass, the frequency is lower. You can also feel it in your body a lot more than high frequency tones, because generally those are harder to perceive in the first place. The neat thing is, that this allows us to alter the effects of sound techniques by altering the frequency. That being said, you probably see how versatile sound actually can be, and how it can create different effects. Even if you can't hear something, the sound waves are still there and can still have effects on your body.

Substance it moves/passes through

Now, realize that sound can move through any medium. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise! Though we needs some sort of limitations, and it's reasonable to say wind is a good counter to sound if it can be seen (doujutsu) or heard, but at that point it might be too late (depending on how a technique is used and how the effects are). Earth, however, depending on the situation (and the level of understanding of the usage by the opponent) can be a devastating counter as well.

Now, look below:

-Speed of sound:
solid > liquid > gas.

Sound moves fastes of all through solids. Generally, this is because the particles and atoms in earth are more tightly packed than they are in liquids or gas. So, the closer the atoms/molecules, the faster sound moves.

- Elastic properties
There is a catch in between different solids. Sound moves faster through rigid solids (i.e. steel, iron) than other things like jelly. This is because solids that are rigid generally mean that the atoms and molecules have a much stronger force of attraction towards each other than in other solids. This is because of the fact that, once moved, they move back to their original position/form more quickly (and thus resulting in a much higher vibration speed). jelly in this case has much weaker attraction between the molecules, that's why it's so "elastic" (not to be confused with elasticity like rubber), and much more flexible.

- Density
Next to this, there is the density. Now, more dense substances = more mass. More mass=bigger molecules. Because sound is based on kinetic energy that travels from one point to another, moving through denser objects means it has to use more energy, seeing as it has to move (vibrate) larger molecules. This however is used for substances with the same elastic properties.

To explain this take two examples with nearly the same elastic properties. Gold and aluminum (Gold = 10.8 psi; aluminum = 10 psi). While they nearly have the same elastic properties, gold is much denser, so it will travel faster through aluminum than gold.
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Oh no, I want to get scientific. Sound is a very delicate element. Very precise and very powerful if performed correctly, however, every wrong use can also backfire at you, so you have to be careful.

If you don't hear the sound then it's either infrasound or ultrasound. The range of human hearing is between 20hz and 20khz. Infrasound is everything below 20hz and it doesn't have damaging properties and it focuses on crowd control and disorienting the opponent, while everything above 20khz can cause actual damage to your body.

Now there are three main properties that define sound. As you said, those are a medium and frequency, but you forgot to mention vibration. Now what is their correlation? You use the medium to cause vibrations which then produce the frequencies that travel form one point to another, transmitting those same vibrations. In this case, the medium can be literally anything. A stick, your vocal chords, a sound emitter device, etc. The higher the amount of vibrations the higher the frequency. We can also add the substance through which the sound waves travel into the bunch and then we're complete.

Now, I'm borrowing this part from Wesobi's traning because I find it very interesting.



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Hmm thats actually really amazing and quite interesting, I don't really have any questions but do the same rules apply within our rp?
LIke will it pass through doton as easy as it does normal earth or are there special rules?
 
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Hmm thats actually really amazing and quite interesting, I don't really have any questions but do the same rules apply within our rp?
LIke will it pass through doton as easy as it does normal earth or are they're special rules?
Yes they apply. You can use sound to shatter solid objects, for example. All you need to do is get the right frequency and that you get by becoming a master, when you can say for sure that you trained hard and that you learned and accustomed your ears for a wide variety of frequencies.

(Ototon: Saishō's Kaiketsu Suru ) - Sound Release: Saishō's Resolve
Rank: S
Type: Defence/suplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A specific sound jutsu which involves the user recognizing the resonant frequency of any solids brought before him by releasing his chakra into his surroundings and using his/her sound mastery to hear the frequency at which the objects in that area are vibrating at. After gathering that data, the user would then clap his hands producing a sound which vibrates at the same frequency as the object allowing the user to cause it to smash into thousands of pieces almost instantly. This jutsu would be able to destroy any and every solids, but would be useless against anything energy based and/or intangible (Wind, Fire, Lightning etc).
Note: Can only be used twice
Note: No other sound jutsu for the same and in the next 2 turns.
Note: Can't be used on humans or any other living beings.
Note: User cannot do any harm to an opponent.

You can also use infrasound to induce certain effects that wouldn't otherwise be possible. And with a small amount of reading articles about sound you can find a lot of interesting things.

Ototon: Hirō | Sound Release: Exhaustion
Type: Supplementary
Rank: A-Rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra: 30
Damage: N/A
Description: After performing a handseal, the user hums an infrasound wave and directs it at the opponent. Infrasound waves have frequency below the 20Hz that human ears can hear. This frequency has, specifically, 5Hz because of its unique effects on the human body. Because of its short frequency it causes exhaustion, shortness of breath and even nausea for a short period of time. It happens because it affects the opponents lungs and causes the air to rapidly and intensively move in and out, distupting his regular breathing patterns, which in return jumpstarts all the other effects.
Note: Effects last for 1 turn
Note: Can only be used twice per battle
Note: Only McRazor can teach this

Ototon: Kasshoku Bunsho - Sound Release: The Brown Note
Type: supplementary
Rank: C
Range: Short - Long
Chakra: 15
Damage: /
Description: First believed to be an urban legend, it took wesobi a long time next to an insane amount of effort and diapers to achieve completion on this technique. The user start by creating high power sound waves in his throat. The frequency is below 20 Hz, meaning that the human ear can’t hear it. Even though the human ear can’t hear it, the opponent his body will still feel the vibrations. The vibrations cause the opponent’s bowels to involuntarily work, and thus making the opponent lose control of their bowel movement. This results in content of the opponent’s bowels leaving his body. To counteract the effect on the user himself, he also focuses high frequency sound waves around his body, to counteract the effect.
Note: Can only be taught by Wesobi
Note: Can only be used once, unless used against members of the Akimichi clan, who eat an enormous amount of food compared to “normal” people. Against them, it can be used twice.
Note: No other sound techniques in the same turn.

You can use ultrasound to damage your opponents hearing. The sound can be also painful and disorient him, make him feel dizzy and so on. Honestly, there's a bunch of stuff you can do with sound and the canon techniques are not even a scratch on the surface.

Now, let's get to the sound in our RP. Why do you think sound is so "sacred" and wanted. What makes it so special and limited? What are it's advantages and disadvantages in battle?
 

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Yes they apply. You can use sound to shatter solid objects, for example. All you need to do is get the right frequency and that you get by becoming a master, when you can say for sure that you trained hard and that you learned and accustomed your ears for a wide variety of frequencies.

(Ototon: Saishō's Kaiketsu Suru ) - Sound Release: Saishō's Resolve
Rank: S
Type: Defence/suplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A specific sound jutsu which involves the user recognizing the resonant frequency of any solids brought before him by releasing his chakra into his surroundings and using his/her sound mastery to hear the frequency at which the objects in that area are vibrating at. After gathering that data, the user would then clap his hands producing a sound which vibrates at the same frequency as the object allowing the user to cause it to smash into thousands of pieces almost instantly. This jutsu would be able to destroy any and every solids, but would be useless against anything energy based and/or intangible (Wind, Fire, Lightning etc).
Note: Can only be used twice
Note: No other sound jutsu for the same and in the next 2 turns.
Note: Can't be used on humans or any other living beings.
Note: User cannot do any harm to an opponent.

You can also use infrasound to induce certain effects that wouldn't otherwise be possible. And with a small amount of reading articles about sound you can find a lot of interesting things.

Ototon: Hirō | Sound Release: Exhaustion
Type: Supplementary
Rank: A-Rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra: 30
Damage: N/A
Description: After performing a handseal, the user hums an infrasound wave and directs it at the opponent. Infrasound waves have frequency below the 20Hz that human ears can hear. This frequency has, specifically, 5Hz because of its unique effects on the human body. Because of its short frequency it causes exhaustion, shortness of breath and even nausea for a short period of time. It happens because it affects the opponents lungs and causes the air to rapidly and intensively move in and out, distupting his regular breathing patterns, which in return jumpstarts all the other effects.
Note: Effects last for 1 turn
Note: Can only be used twice per battle
Note: Only McRazor can teach this

Ototon: Kasshoku Bunsho - Sound Release: The Brown Note
Type: supplementary
Rank: C
Range: Short - Long
Chakra: 15
Damage: /
Description: First believed to be an urban legend, it took wesobi a long time next to an insane amount of effort and diapers to achieve completion on this technique. The user start by creating high power sound waves in his throat. The frequency is below 20 Hz, meaning that the human ear can’t hear it. Even though the human ear can’t hear it, the opponent his body will still feel the vibrations. The vibrations cause the opponent’s bowels to involuntarily work, and thus making the opponent lose control of their bowel movement. This results in content of the opponent’s bowels leaving his body. To counteract the effect on the user himself, he also focuses high frequency sound waves around his body, to counteract the effect.
Note: Can only be taught by Wesobi
Note: Can only be used once, unless used against members of the Akimichi clan, who eat an enormous amount of food compared to “normal” people. Against them, it can be used twice.
Note: No other sound techniques in the same turn.

You can use ultrasound to damage your opponents hearing. The sound can be also painful and disorient him, make him feel dizzy and so on. Honestly, there's a bunch of stuff you can do with sound and the canon techniques are not even a scratch on the surface.

Now, let's get to the sound in our RP. Why do you think sound is so "sacred" and wanted. What makes it so special and limited? What are it's advantages and disadvantages in battle?
Thats awesome!

Well from what you just told me sound is probably one of the most versatile elements within our rp but from what it seems like it can also be dangerous. Although it seems pretty hard to counter it can back fire if not used properly which is why i'm hoping to get the most out of this training. But from the techniques you have shown me so far, it seems as though even the user isn't safe from his own sound and although it says the human ear can't hear sound with a frequency of under 20hz im assuming sharingan and other doujutsu can see it? after doing some research I can across this which almost contradicts what we've discussed so far.

Wind is extremely effective against it. If you're quick enough to pull it out, shoot massive wind blast to repel most sound techniques (since the air is the medium for sound). You can also protect yourself by placing other mediums between you and the sound blast (if it's direct and not based on your sense of hearing), like Earth walls and Water walls. Be careful though since it could very well backfire on you if it's use in the wrong situation. For inexperience role players, keep yourself to Wind techniques.
So i'm hoping we can also cover this because i don't want to get hit with my own sound techniques xD
 

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Thats awesome!

Well from what you just told me sound is probably one of the most versatile elements within our rp but from what it seems like it can also be dangerous. Although it seems pretty hard to counter it can back fire if not used properly which is why i'm hoping to get the most out of this training. But from the techniques you have shown me so far, it seems as though even the user isn't safe from his own sound and although it says the human ear can't hear sound with a frequency of under 20hz im assuming sharingan and other doujutsu can see it? after doing some research I can across this which almost contradicts what we've discussed so far.



So i'm hoping we can also cover this because i don't want to get hit with my own sound techniques xD
Alright, so technically what I aimed for when saying that they can bounce back at you was that if there was a solid wall in the path of the sound technique, some of it would get conducted within the wall and transmitted past it, while a better portion would bounce back. And that depends on angles. So, technically, it's safe to assume that you won't be harmed from your own jutsus, as long as you stay out of their path.

Now, since as every other element, sound requires chakra to "fuel" the soundwaves, a sharingan and byakugan would most likely see the waves as they travel, but I don't think there would be much they could do before it's too late. The thing they could rely on and with a bit of godmodding, they could say that they see the buildup of a weird type of chakra so they react.

So, tell me, what is sound composed of, and how would you produce sound chakra?
 

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Alright, so technically what I aimed for when saying that they can bounce back at you was that if there was a solid wall in the path of the sound technique, some of it would get conducted within the wall and transmitted past it, while a better portion would bounce back. And that depends on angles. So, technically, it's safe to assume that you won't be harmed from your own jutsus, as long as you stay out of their path.

Now, since as every other element, sound requires chakra to "fuel" the soundwaves, a sharingan and byakugan would most likely see the waves as they travel, but I don't think there would be much they could do before it's too late. The thing they could rely on and with a bit of godmodding, they could say that they see the buildup of a weird type of chakra so they react.

So, tell me, what is sound composed of, and how would you produce sound chakra?
Hmm alright so sound is extremely hard to counter.

When you say composed of if talking about the chakra natures than it would be composed of wind & lightning, I would imagine sound is just using chakra to create or manipulate sound waves. When producing I imagine there is a multitude of ways such as ; the snapping of the fingers, whistling, yelling, clapping, etc..

I think when you do the actions said above you use the ototon chakra to amplify the effects, possibly?
 
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Hmm alright so sound is extremely hard to counter.

When you say composed of if talking about the chakra natures than it would be composed of wind & lightning, I would imagine sound is just using chakra to create or manipulate sound waves. When producing I imagine there is a multitude of ways such as ; the snapping of the fingers, whistling, yelling, clapping, etc..

I think when you do the actions said above you use the ototon chakra to amplify the effects, possibly?
Yeah, but you need sound chakra to produce the soundwaves and to amplify them. And to get sound chakra you simultaneously gather wind and lightning chakra. However, you need a precise amount, because for example; if you were gathering the sound chakra in your vocal cords and you gathered too much wind you would cut your cords while too much lightning would paralyze them. So basically the principle is simple: you start manipulating the chakra through nature transformation and molding the lightning and wind chakra in a careful manner in order to get sound chakra and then you channel it into the point of release (vocal cords, hands, feet, etc.) and you release it. Then using shape manipulation you form a sound wave. Shape manipulation is also very important because it determines the frequency, the amplitude and other parameters, which give your technique certain abilities.

Alright, now let's see if you can produce sound at all.
 

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Yeah, but you need sound chakra to produce the soundwaves and to amplify them. And to get sound chakra you simultaneously gather wind and lightning chakra. However, you need a precise amount, because for example; if you were gathering the sound chakra in your vocal cords and you gathered too much wind you would cut your cords while too much lightning would paralyze them. So basically the principle is simple: you start manipulating the chakra through nature transformation and molding the lightning and wind chakra in a careful manner in order to get sound chakra and then you channel it into the point of release (vocal cords, hands, feet, etc.) and you release it. Then using shape manipulation you form a sound wave. Shape manipulation is also very important because it determines the frequency, the amplitude and other parameters, which give your technique certain abilities.

Alright, now let's see if you can produce sound at all.
Ok lets try it!

After hearing your words of wisdom and how to control and use sound, after taking a deep breath I begin to channel lightning chakra into my right hand and an equal amount of wind chakra into my left. Using my experience and great chakra control I make sure the measurements are precise and that there are no fluctuations within the two different chakra natures flowing into the palms of my hands. Immediately, with no real practice with sound I go for the obvious cliche and slam both my palms together and hope that I can imitate a harmless thunderous boom. Once my hands clap together I release the chakra in unison, using manipulation to let the chakra natures mix precisely and flow into a soundwave way above 20hz, that shakes the eardrums no more than when thunder sounds.

How's that?
 

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Ok lets try it!

After hearing your words of wisdom and how to control and use sound, after taking a deep breath I begin to channel lightning chakra into my right hand and an equal amount of wind chakra into my left. Using my experience and great chakra control I make sure the measurements are precise and that there are no fluctuations within the two different chakra natures flowing into the palms of my hands. Immediately, with no real practice with sound I go for the obvious cliche and slam both my palms together and hope that I can imitate a harmless thunderous boom. Once my hands clap together I release the chakra in unison, using manipulation to let the chakra natures mix precisely and flow into a soundwave way above 20hz, that shakes the eardrums no more than when thunder sounds.

How's that?
Erm, well ok, you get the point. However, you need ying/yang to do what you describe. You can't simultaneously gather 2 natures in separate hands. But what you can do is mix them together in your whole chakra stream or in the Solar plexus chakra where all the magic and chakra manipulation happens. When you gather both of them there and start mixing the lightning will represent the vibrations because of its speed and unpredictability while wind will represent the medium. This creates sound chakra that flows through your whole chakra stream and once you manipulate that one, you're ready for techniques. Now, try that and channel it into your vocal chords and then say a word, or you can even shout. The sound you create should be amplified by the sound chakra.
 

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Erm, well ok, you get the point. However, you need ying/yang to do what you describe. You can't simultaneously gather 2 natures in separate hands. But what you can do is mix them together in your whole chakra stream or in the Solar plexus chakra where all the magic and chakra manipulation happens. When you gather both of them there and start mixing the lightning will represent the vibrations because of its speed and unpredictability while wind will represent the medium. This creates sound chakra that flows through your whole chakra stream and once you manipulate that one, you're ready for techniques. Now, try that and channel it into your vocal chords and then say a word, or you can even shout. The sound you create should be amplified by the sound chakra.
xD was going off of how Tenzo showed Naruto in the manga


After listening to your explanation I Once again I begin to channel my chakra, this time without trying to look cool (>_>), First I begin channeling my raiton chakra, then secondly I gather my fuuton chakra. Allowing both natures to mix and take on each traits and property. Once properly gather I open mouth and say the word 'Swagg' whilst using the ototon chakra already gather to amplify the soundwaves.
 

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xD was going off of how Tenzo showed Naruto in the manga


After listening to your explanation I Once again I begin to channel my chakra, this time without trying to look cool (>_>), First I begin channeling my raiton chakra, then secondly I gather my fuuton chakra. Allowing both natures to mix and take on each traits and property. Once properly gather I open mouth and say the word 'Swagg' whilst using the ototon chakra already gather to amplify the soundwaves.
Good. :D

(Ototon: Himei Zetsubou no Jutsu) - Sound Release: Scream of Despair Skill
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/a
Description: The user concentrating chakra into their vocal cords enhancing throat chakra lets out a scream that travels extremely fast in which can be used to deflect projectiles and send opponents flying.
Note: Travels at 315 speed

Now, this technique requires you to enhance your hearing in order for you to hear your breathing as it bounces off other objects. Essentially this technique works as a sonar and it lets you know where everything on the battlefield is.
 

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Good. :D

(Ototon: Himei Zetsubou no Jutsu) - Sound Release: Scream of Despair Skill
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary/Defense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/a
Description: The user concentrating chakra into their vocal cords enhancing throat chakra lets out a scream that travels extremely fast in which can be used to deflect projectiles and send opponents flying.
Note: Travels at 315 speed

Now, this technique requires you to enhance your hearing in order for you to hear your breathing as it bounces off other objects. Essentially this technique works as a sonar and it lets you know where everything on the battlefield is.
Alright once again I begin to channel my chakra, first I channel my raiton and then secondly my fuuton chakra. Once done I begin to evenly distribute and combine the elements whilst using precise chakra control and manipulation effectively creating ototon, once complete I focus this gathered ototon chakra into my ears to enhance my hearing. Being familiar with the process as it shouldn't be any different than coating a limb or appendage with chakra to boosts one physical strength except with a different outcome and more chakra control. Once done I begin to focus and notice that the soundwaves generated from my very breathing are bouncing off of objects telling me where everything is, creating a pseudo-sonar.

A question - when this technique is active can't it also leave me at a disadvantage? Like a paper bomb or explosion going off, wouldn't that like blow my eardrums and deafen me?
 

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Alright once again I begin to channel my chakra, first I channel my raiton and then secondly my fuuton chakra. Once done I begin to evenly distribute and combine the elements whilst using precise chakra control and manipulation effectively creating ototon, once complete I focus this gathered ototon chakra into my ears to enhance my hearing. Being familiar with the process as it shouldn't be any different than coating a limb or appendage with chakra to boosts one physical strength except with a different outcome and more chakra control. Once done I begin to focus and notice that the soundwaves generated from my very breathing are bouncing off of objects telling me where everything is, creating a pseudo-sonar.

A question - when this technique is active can't it also leave me at a disadvantage? Like a paper bomb or explosion going off, wouldn't that like blow my eardrums and deafen me?
It would definitely intensify the effect, but it depends on the distance from the explosion. If something's really close you might as well get hurt anyway. Now, when do you think this technique can be very useful?
 

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It would definitely intensify the effect, but it depends on the distance from the explosion. If something's really close you might as well get hurt anyway. Now, when do you think this technique can be very useful?
I see and while we're on the topic, is there any techniques that give the user complete control over their inner ear, like being able to block certain sounds but also have control on how well you hear?

This technique would be amazing when you have lost eyesight, or need a way of tracking down the opponent. because no matter what abilities they have they have to breathe and my enhanced hearing will pick it up quite easily I imagine, I can also utilize the fact that the soundwaves from my breathing is bouncing off of objects to determine the location of my opponent.
 

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I see and while we're on the topic, is there any techniques that give the user complete control over their inner ear, like being able to block certain sounds but also have control on how well you hear?

This technique would be amazing when you have lost eyesight, or need a way of tracking down the opponent. because no matter what abilities they have they have to breathe and my enhanced hearing will pick it up quite easily I imagine, I can also utilize the fact that the soundwaves from my breathing is bouncing off of objects to determine the location of my opponent.
I want to believe that I saw somewhere someone saying that you can, but I just can't find it. I know it makes sense but then again it just makes sound even more broken. If you can filter what you want to hear then it's ridiculous because it gives you an extra unfair advantage on top of the one you already have. If I manage to find more info about this, I'll post here.

Yes, that's the general idea when to use the technique. But, there's one technique that it works perfectly well with. The hidden mist. If you use it yourself, you have a good advantage, but you have an even bigger if the opponent uses it because he will block his own vision, enabling you to slice through him like butter.
 

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I want to believe that I saw somewhere someone saying that you can, but I just can't find it. I know it makes sense but then again it just makes sound even more broken. If you can filter what you want to hear then it's ridiculous because it gives you an extra unfair advantage on top of the one you already have. If I manage to find more info about this, I'll post here.

Yes, that's the general idea when to use the technique. But, there's one technique that it works perfectly well with. The hidden mist. If you use it yourself, you have a good advantage, but you have an even bigger if the opponent uses it because he will block his own vision, enabling you to slice through him like butter.
Yeah sound does sound a bit unfair, so I definitely won't be abusing it but I am already starting to develop a few custom techniques for it. Speaking of that, after I finish this training and get some practice in, would you be down to trade? I wanna build my sound arsenal since it's soooooo unique.

Alright nice, i'll definitely keep that combo in mind.
 
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