[VS] Tournament to Pirate King!! FINAL ROUND: SHANKS v. DRAGON!!

[Olorin]

I just flipped a coin

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I just flipped a coin

I've just been voting for who I think is most likely to lose for the most part. Def not in the finals tho.

 

[Sakazuki]

Don't you mean other fans of different manga that start reading One Piece ?

It makes no sense that a One Piece fan isn't well informed about the manga they're fan of compared to other manga.

Also I like how you said that, and you still voted Dragon yourself. Talking about not bright..

No don't tell me what I ment, and I hate shanks as a character unfortunately so I voted for dragon instead of not voting at all

 

[Sakazuki]

Sabo is stronger than Yonkou commander level, that's called warlord of the sea level by the way. He's way stronger than Ace by 100 times and Ace is yonkou commander. He one shot an vice admiral (which Ace stalemated a captain) and he stalemated a Admiral while adjusting to his devil fruit powers.

Dragon's hype is unrealistic I know, but don't degrade Sabo's feats. He beat Jesus Burguess a First mate of BB's crew.

I use to agree that burgess was the fm, I mean he's been there the longest especially it seems, but I tossed that aside when shiliew was shown pinned up against Beckman, shanks fm, I could still be wrong though, I hate shiliew

And I don't see Sabo defeating katakuri without his df now, but good points do you think current Sabo > katakuri? I'd say possibly

 

[chopstickchakra]

No don't tell me what I ment, and I hate shanks as a character unfortunately so I voted for dragon instead of not voting at all

How can you hate Shanks as a character though?

 

[Sakazuki]

How can you hate Shanks as a character though?

Every yonko so far has feats or titles to put them there

BM- well we saw her past
BB- defeated wbs crew, has two dfs, destroyed revolutionaries base
Kaido- world's strongest "creature"
Shanks- has one arm

But why in the hell does it matter if I do or don't like a character. I'm sure once we get shanks back story he will be a beast but I dislike him rn, oh well that's me not you or anyone else on thus base, I have my own opinions

 

[TheNuetrix]

Sabo is stronger than Yonkou commander level, that's called warlord of the sea level by the way. He's way stronger than Ace by 100 times and Ace is yonkou commander. He one shot an vice admiral (which Ace stalemated a captain) and he stalemated a Admiral while adjusting to his devil fruit powers.

Dragon's hype is unrealistic I know, but don't degrade Sabo's feats. He beat Jesus Burguess a First mate of BB's crew.

"Yonko Commander Level" is slightly above "Shichibukai level" imo, though i usually look at either one as a sub-category of the other.

Do you really think Ace couldn't beat pre-ts Smoker? Their abilities may have stalemated each other but in the end Ace would have most certainly won.

Burgess being the first mate means nothing, he's still weak af. Of all those guys he beat in his block of the Colosseum, how many of them were named and relevant non-fodder characters-NONE. He practically got one-shot twice in the same arc by the same guy. Personally i think that's the reason he came to Dressrosa in the first place, to get a df because he was weak compared to BB other commanders.

 

[Sakazuki]

All I know is justice will reign supreme, ya hear me, akainu for the win, whose with me? ....
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[chopstickchakra]

Every yonko so far has feats or titles to put them there

BM- well we saw her past
BB- defeated wbs crew, has two dfs, destroyed revolutionaries base
Kaido- world's strongest "creature"
Shanks- has one arm

But why in the hell does it matter if I do or don't like a character. I'm sure once we get shanks back story he will be a beast but I dislike him rn, oh well that's me not you or anyone else on thus base, I have my own opinions

I'm confused how you could hate someone as a character when we have almost nothing on their character.

 

[Love Cook]

No don't tell me what I ment, and I hate shanks as a character unfortunately so I voted for dragon instead of not voting at all

Well if that is the case it makes no sense what you said and you should't be talking about how other people aren't bright.

 

[Sakazuki]

Well if that is the case it makes no sense what you said and you should't be talking about how other people aren't bright.

I can talk however I want keyboard thug

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

"Yonko Commander Level" is slightly above "Shichibukai level" imo, though i usually look at either one as a sub-category of the other.

Depends on the crew that you're looking at. Snack and Ace are yonkou commander level but most people believe Boa Hancock, Doflamingo, Kuma, Crocodile (except for uzmakimucho's dumbass), and Jinbei are stronger than those two.
Shichibaku level is a very broad level of strength but you know somebody is of that level when they are invited to be in that position to become one. When Ace was in the New world he was offered a position as warlord of the sea by the world govt but when he entered a yonkous ship they said he was strong enough to become on of their top commanders besides the first mates who hold 1 billion and over bounty.
That and Ace stalemated a warlord of the sea.

Do you really think Ace couldn't beat pre-ts Smoker? Their abilities may have stalemated each other but in the end Ace would have most certainly won.

In terms of devil fruit ability but part 1 had a little bit of reconning over the years. Like Ace and Croc were on way different levels than the rest and yet captain smoker and Luffy put up a fight and or beat one of them in a 1/3 battle
We know that Ace's novel said that he had buso haki so he had to be stronger.

Burgess being the first mate means nothing, he's still weak af. Of all those guys he beat in his block of the Colosseum, how many of them were named and relevant non-fodder characters-NONE. He practically got one-shot twice in the same arc by the same guy. Personally i think that's the reason he came to Dressrosa in the first place, to get a df because he was weak compared to BB other commanders.

Sabo is strong asf. Besides that he was the strongest person in the Colosseum, but Sabo made it look really easy. It sure wasn't a one-shot though but he stood little chance against the chief of staff in the Revolutionary army.
When we see him again it wouldn't make sense on how stong he is so don't hang on to what you saw in the dressrosa arc.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I use to agree that burgess was the fm, I mean he's been there the longest especially it seems, but I tossed that aside when shiliew was shown pinned up against Beckman, shanks fm, I could still be wrong though, I hate shiliew

That was filler, he was never pinned up against Ben Beckman

And I don't see Sabo defeating katakuri without his df now, but good points do you think current Sabo > katakuri? I'd say possibly

I honestly don't know entirely who is stronger but he stalemated an Admiral. If Dogtooth can do the same then I'll take back what I said about Sabo. Dogtooth is the only yonkou first mate that ever went all out in the series and his feats are better than Marco's too.

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Thos whole damn thing was decided mainly on hype, wow. Shanks has the most feats out of the 2 and strong hype

 

[Fireplay]

hmm two guys with no feats and only portrayal and hype...

Shanks: Yonko
Dragon: Leader of the revs
Shanks: stopped a war and speedblitzed the whole warzone...
Dragon: seemingly able to control the weather through unknown means...
Shanks: The main characters mentor/role model and end goal...
Dragon: The main characters father...


Now the thing is who is gonna die first Shanks' or Dragon? whoever dies first is the stronger one. We all know the GOAT's die first...

on a more serious note: Shanks>Dragon... We all know that whoever the main character is aiming for is going to be the strongest good guy in the series.

 

[Sakazuki]

hmm two guys with no feats and only portrayal and hype...

Shanks: Yonko
Dragon: Leader of the revs
Shanks: stopped a war and speedblitzed the whole warzone...
Dragon: seemingly able to control the weather through unknown means...
Shanks: The main characters mentor/role model and end goal...
Dragon: The main characters father...


Now the thing is who is gonna die first Shanks' or Dragon? whoever dies first is the stronger one. We all know the GOAT's die first...

on a more serious note: Shanks>Dragon... We all know that whoever the main character is aiming for is going to be the strongest good guy in the series.

Minato was a letdown compared to hashi...

 

[Greatness23]

About uverdore I dont know what he is talking about but about shanks is when he arrived at war, no one notice him and in short time came from half ocean to war.

Doesn't necessarily mean he stopped time. Honestly, the way you said it sounds more like teleportation than anything else. The time stop theories are a little much boss.