Totsuka and Yata isn't Chakra

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Can you please stop creating the stupid pointless yata/totsuka threads.....I don't know what are you trying to prove TBH.....they're not invincible.....deal with it....
 

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Y'all really be looking at the pretty pictures without a glimpse at the words huh?
If your next post is going to be about how they are weapons that Itachi found then don't bother wasting your it, because it's irrelevant to everything I said nor does it contradict what I said.
 

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What proves that they are not made of chakra?

Totsuka was said to seal everything it pierces (someone told that to BZ), although it failed to seal the only thing it pierced, don' t believe in hype bro.
Even BZ can be told lies, as proven by the Totsuka hype that has been proven wrong.
 
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Chakra is composed of spirtual energy, Sakura taught it to you in the first-ish chapter.
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If your next post is going to be about how they are weapons that Itachi found then don't bother wasting your it, because it's irrelevant to everything I said nor does it contradict what I said.
What proves that they are not made of chakra?

Totsuka was said to seal everything it pierces (someone told that to BZ), although it failed to seal the only thing it pierced, don' t believe in hype bro.
Even BZ can be told lies, as proven by the Totsuka hype that has been proven wrong.
What is the Totsuka then, a giant red dildo? Of course it is a manifestation of chakra...
They were called spiritual weapons. Chakra is made up of both spiritual and physical energy, spiritual energy by itself is not chakra, it is just that: spiritual energy.

Show me one scan where it's called a chakra weapon. I'll wait
 

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They were called spiritual weapons. Chakra is made up of both spiritual and physical energy, spiritual energy by itself is not chakra, it is just that: spiritual energy.

Show me one scan where it's called a chakra weapon. I'll wait
Lmao. It's a spiritual weapon that is manifested via chakra. They don't have a real physical form thus Itachi's chakra is what gives them a physical form. Does that mean that the weapon in nature isn't a spirit weapon? Does that mean that the weapon is made of chakra in it's default state? No and no, hence everything you are saying being irrelevant.

What's even worse is that if it were just spiritual energy when Itachi uses them they'd have no physical form nor would anyone be able to physically interact with them just how Tayuya's Doki could slip through physical objects.

I hope you aren't going to sit here and try to tell me that two ancient weapons that predate Itachi's existence coincidentally match his chakra in color, cause if you are then this discussion is over. That's just naivete at it's finest.
 

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Lmao. It's a spiritual weapon that is manifested via chakra. They don't have a real physical form thus Itachi's chakra is what gives them a physical form. Does that mean that the weapon in nature isn't a spirit weapon? Does that mean that the weapon is made of chakra in it's default state? No and no, hence everything you are saying being irrelevant.

What's even worse is that if it were just spiritual energy when Itachi uses them they'd have no physical form nor would anyone be able to physically interact with them just how Tayuya's Doki could slip through physical objects.

I hope you aren't going to sit here and try to tell me that two ancient weapons that predate Itachi's existence coincidentally match his chakra in color, cause if you are then this discussion is over. That's just naivete at it's finest.
Databook and Manga disagrees. Also if it was chakra how come Nagato couldn't absorb it? He had a preta shield up
 

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Databook and Manga disagrees. Also if it was chakra how come Nagato couldn't absorb it? He had a preta shield up
The DB and Manga say nothing that contradicts a thing I said, the rest is false. Nagato obviously had no Preta shield up.



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I hope you aren't going to sit here and try to tell me that two ancient weapons that predate Itachi's existence coincidentally match his chakra in color, cause if you are then this discussion is over. That's just naivete at it's finest.
Itachi's susanoo chakra is yellow/gold in the manga, the red alter is just shit studio pierrot decided to go with.
 
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The DB and Manga say nothing that contradicts a thing I said, the rest is false. Nagato obviously had no Preta shield up.



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Every chakra attack thrown at Nagato was absorbed :) it's wasn't visibly showing but activated every time chakra was thrown at him. totsuka isn't chakra but by all means review the entire fight

Also the db and manga never states its chakra and it doesn't state its manifested through itachi chakra so yes you are wrong
 
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Every chakra attack thrown at Nagato was absorbed :) it's wasn't visibly showing but activated every time chakra was thrown at him. totsuka isn't chakra but by all means review the entire fight

Also the db and manga never states its chakra and it doesn't state its manifested through itachi chakra so yes you are wrong
Because he activated it those times. He failed to do so here. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that.

The DB never said it's chakra because it isn't. The DB never stating the rest is irrelevant because it doesn't contradict what I just said. Like I said, just stop now if you think ancient weapons that predate the thought of an Itachi will coincidentally have the same color as his chakra.

Itachi's susanoo chakra is yellow/gold in the manga, the red alter is just shit studio pierrot decided to go with.
The items are the same color, Manga or Anime. Also doesn't really change my other points.
 
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Lmao. It's a spiritual weapon that is manifested via chakra. They don't have a real physical form thus Itachi's chakra is what gives them a physical form. Does that mean that the weapon in nature isn't a spirit weapon? Does that mean that the weapon is made of chakra in it's default state? No and no, hence everything you are saying being irrelevant.

What's even worse is that if it were just spiritual energy when Itachi uses them they'd have no physical form nor would anyone be able to physically interact with them just how Tayuya's Doki could slip through physical objects.

I hope you aren't going to sit here and try to tell me that two ancient weapons that predate Itachi's existence coincidentally match his chakra in color, cause if you are then this discussion is over. That's just naivete at it's finest.
The only way they are manifested via chakra is that Itachi incorporated into his Susano'o, so to use them, he has to use chakra to manifest Susano'o. The weapons themselves are not made of chakra.

They have the same color as his Susano'o because they were incorporated into his Susano'o. Itachi's chakra giving them physical form is nothing but conjecture that you just made up.
 

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The only way they are manifested via chakra is that Itachi incorporated into his Susano'o, so to use them, he has to use chakra to manifest Susano'o. The weapons themselves are not made of chakra.

They have the same color as his Susano'o because they were incorporated into his Susano'o.
Which means while Itachi is using them they are chakra. Otherwise they are not.
 
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