[Spoilers] Totally forced

[Ryan Ensign]

I don't see a way to end this besides TNJ'ing Sasuke, isn't that the whole point of the manga?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

The whole thing was manipulated to give the fans the token Naruto and Sasuke fight which should have happened before the fight with Kaguya. Naruto MUST save Sasuke or the whole story never had a point, Kishi is on dangerous ground.

The story's point was for Naruto to become Hokage, not save Sasuke.

 

[Torche]

The story's point was for Naruto to become Hokage, not save Sasuke.

It's since changed into "Ending the curse of hatred".

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

The story's point was for Naruto to become Hokage, not save Sasuke.

Naruto said that is he cannot save his friend then he did not deserve to become Hokage, he also said that he would shoulder Sasuke's hate and die with him, this is what he could do for Sasuke, if Sasuke dies and Naruto lives, or he fails to save Sasuke then this make Naruto a liar and a failure, if he can't save Sasuke then he dies with him, this was his word, anything else would destroy him as a character, also killing Sasuke is not something that would be believable for Naruto to live with.

And I disagree, Naruto does not need to become Hokage for the story to work but he does have to save or die with Sasuke or he becomes a liar and has not kept his word and resolve, the very fabric of his character. And since the end of the first part the focus really has been on saving Sasuke.

 

[cmoG]

I agree about it being rushed & just a little forced. It kinda makes everything that happened to Sasuke mean nothing, unless ONLY Naruto TNJ's Sasuke. Which, being that he's so keen on saving Sasuke, it'll probably happen. Remember, Naruto ALSO foreshadowed that if they were to ever fight again, then they'd BOTH die. Well, Naruto is going to stay alive, so....

 

[ultraChalk]

you're the only one who feels that way haha

 

[Frikid]

Nope, it was foreshadowed ever since they fought in part 1 .

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

you're the only one who feels that way haha

Unlikely

.........

 

[Jagat]

Naruto TnJ's Sasuke.
IT is dispelled.
Kakashi kills Sasuke.
fin

 

[Madara mhm]

Sasuke will die.

 

[Oblivionx]

i think they should both die or naruto should die with sasuke having a change of heart...
as much as i hate sasky, this will make story awesome, if naruto dies, kinda like code geass...
about forced part.. yeah it was about to post this in a separate thread, but i guess won't be needed anymore..
it was forced like hell... made no sense to me...

 

[Hata Hideaki]

in the end, it finally comes to talk no jutsu.

in talk no jutsu we trust.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Naruto said that is he cannot save his friend then he did not deserve to become Hokage, he also said that he would shoulder Sasuke's hate and die with him, this is what he could do for Sasuke, if Sasuke dies and Naruto lives, or he fails to save Sasuke then this make Naruto a liar and a failure, if he can't save Sasuke then he dies with him, this was his word, anything else would destroy him as a character, also killing Sasuke is not something that would be believable for Naruto to live with.

And I disagree, Naruto does not need to become Hokage for the story to work but he does have to save or die with Sasuke or he becomes a liar and has not kept his word and resolve, the very fabric of his character. And since the end of the first part the focus really has been on saving Sasuke.

Hashirama couldn't save Madara. Tsuande couldn't save Orochimaru. What Naruto said was stupid and flat out false. Naruto needs to learn that he can't save everyone.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

Hashirama couldn't save Madara. Tsuande couldn't save Orochimaru. What Naruto said was stupid and flat out false. Naruto needs to learn that he can't save everyone.

the whole point of Naruto is that he saves everyone, he is supposed to be the exception, make it different ad he is no different to everyone else the story dissolves as i pointed out.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

the whole point of Naruto is that he saves everyone, he is supposed to be the exception, make it different ad he is no different to everyone else the story dissolves as i pointed out.

He didn't save Neji. So no, he is not an exception.

 

[Draxus]

the whole point of Naruto is that he saves everyone, he is supposed to be the exception, make it different ad he is no different to everyone else the story dissolves as i pointed out.

Does it dissolve or does it change? Is it a story of a will so great it defies all reasoning, or of a boy accepting the limits of even his own great power and becoming man.

At any rate, I'm not sure why you're so sure Sasuke is going to end up dead at the end of this fight. I'm pretty confident this will end with the classic Naruto TNJ as all arcs tend to do.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

He didn't save Neji. So no, he is not an exception.

Neji was diffrent, Neji sacrificed himself, it is totally different to the situation with Sasuke, Naruto is an exception, the whole point of him is that he can reach people no one else can that he can save people no one else can, if he cannot save Sasuke then he is not who he is supposed to be, the character dissolves. Sasuke CAN be saved so Naruto who is supposed to be able to save those no one else can, like Gaara, has to save hi, he also promised to and never goes back on his word, Neji could no be saved, he chose to die.

Does it dissolve or does it change? Is it a story of a will so great it defies all reasoning, or of a boy accepting the limits of even his own great power and becoming man.

At any rate, I'm not sure why you're so sure Sasuke is going to end up dead at the end of this fight. I'm pretty confident this will end with the classic Naruto TNJ as all arcs tend to do.

I'm not sure, I'm just dreading that Kishi will ruin the story.

Naruto killing Sasuke would be like Goku killing Vegeta.

 

[UnknownJin]

i just know this is gonna be some serious shit.. hahaa

 

[NinJaGirl99]

I feel that Kishi has forced this fight between Naruto and Sasuke to appease fans, it felt forced and I thought it was a trolled chapter for a moment.

Still I suppose that this is where Naruto and Sasuke fight and Naruto saves Sasuke. I Naruto kills Sasuke and doesn't die with him the story will be blown to pieces, we know Naruto doesn't die so unless Kishi is going to destroy Naruto as a character and have him kill Sasuke which would burn the manga to the ground, Naruto is not going to start hating his friend, I guess this is Kishi's way if having Naruto finally save Sasuke.

Remember the key to Naruto's character is that he NEVER goes back on his word and the core of the sotry was Naruto saving Sasuke, so I guess this is where that happens?

All your posts are spot on. You are not the only one who thinks this way.

I have been expecting Naruto Vs Sasuke, but not this way. They already had differences in opinion that were legitimate reasons to fight, but this?

I'm really counting on Naruto to TNJ Sasuke. I don't want the manga to end with them dead.

 

[NinJaGirl99]

If Sasuke dies,all hope for this manga is lost...It wouldn't have a point then...I agree with you,this fight is beyond forced. After Sasuke helped in the war there really wasn't a reason for a fight,but I guess you have to please the fans.

See bolded. I agree, but I don't know that the fans were the reason Kishi went this way. Maybe he wants to recreate Hashi V Mada, but with a different ending. The only way neither Sasuke nor Naruto dies is if Naruto tnj's Sasuke.