Top 20 - it doesn't get any better than this.

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Everyone in their strongest form. The only restriction are suicidal jutsu. No characters with 0 panel time or hype only.

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Added forgotten Muu and thereby Jiraya is off the list.

1. Kaguya.
2. Hagoromo.
3. Madara.
4. Sasuke/Naruto.
5. Naruto/Sasuke.
6. Rikudobito Kakashi.
7. Obito.
8. Orochimaru.
9. Kabuto.
10. Hashirama.
11. Nagato.
12. B.
13. 2nd Mizukage.
14. Kisame.
15. Minato.
16. Tobirama.
17. Muu.
18. 7th gate Guy.
19. Danzo.
20. Itachi.

Where's the 3rd Raikage? He should be just under Bee's level. And Itachi beneath all these people? What kind of joke is this? He's justifiably at 12, and the rest move one down (B included). Under Danzo when MS Sasuke beat him and caught him in genjutsu.. Laughable. Kisame even admitted inferiority, yet he's far higher up. Gai, Mu, Tobirama, Kisame, 2nd Mizukage and Bee would also lose to him, and the most questionable one would be Minato, who would still lose assuming he doesn't have fan-fic adept SM or Kyuubi chakra. I can agree on the rest though, although Hiashi could possibly be on that list as well given he implicatively gets all of Neji's feats as well.
 

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Where's the 3rd Raikage? He should be just under Bee's level. And Itachi beneath all these people? What kind of joke is this? He's justifiably at 12, and the rest move one down (B included). Under Danzo when MS Sasuke beat him and caught him in genjutsu.. Laughable. Kisame even admitted inferiority, yet he's far higher up. Gai, Mu, Tobirama, Kisame, 2nd Mizukage and Bee would also lose to him, and the most questionable one would be Minato, who would still lose assuming he doesn't have fan-fic adept SM or Kyuubi chakra. I can agree on the rest though, although Hiashi could possibly be on that list as well given he implicatively gets all of Neji's feats as well.

There's no way 3rd Raikage could be top20. And Itachi loses to every single one above him, with Muu being debatable.
 

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None cares about your list , bruh .
 

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There's no way 3rd Raikage could be top20. And Itachi loses to every single one above him, with Muu being debatable.

Let's get this clear. Hachibi tied with 3rd Raikage, Bee adds nothing to Hachibi since none of his attacks can harm the third. 7th Gate Gai can't lethally damage the 3rd, so he loses. Muu wins. Tobirama can't do anything to 3rd Raikage, so he either loses via chakra exhaustion or he gives up trying to damage him, same applies to Minato, he can't touch him. Kisame wins as a bad match-up. 2nd Mizukage loses since he can't damage the 3rd Raikage. At the very least he gets a place on this list, but no place at all? Must be some kind of joke.

Eh? Danzo can't touch Itachi. Totsuka left and right, not to mention that Izanagi isn't saving Danzo from being sealed. Itachi does what Sasuke did since he's better at genjutsu. Itachi is basically a superior MS Sasuke. 7th Gate Gai stands no chance at all. Amateratsu ends him, or Yata repels his attacks, v4 tanks all his attacks. Muu loses since Yata counters his Jinton. Sharingan can perceive him and end him with Amateratsu/Tsukiyomi. Tobirama loses, his edo is sealed as well. Minato loses as well, he can't counter Itachi's crow genjutsu similarly to Tobirama. Kisame is one shotted via Tsukiyomi. 2nd Mizukage is countered via Susano swinging an enlarged Tostuka round and round till his claim is split in hald. Bee loses to Tsukiyomi, Totsuka.
 

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Actually, it does get better than this. Naruto and Sasuke above Madara and Hashirama above Kabuto.
 

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Good list. Just a few things.

Kabuto with edo tensei > Orochimaru with edo tensei

I would include 8G Gai, doesn't matter if its suicidal, we're talking about the strongest character on the manga.

Get the 2dn mizu out of there
 

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Let's get this clear. Hachibi tied with 3rd Raikage, Bee adds nothing to Hachibi since none of his attacks can harm the third. 7th Gate Gai can't lethally damage the 3rd, so he loses. Muu wins. Tobirama can't do anything to 3rd Raikage, so he either loses via chakra exhaustion or he gives up trying to damage him, same applies to Minato, he can't touch him. Kisame wins as a bad match-up. 2nd Mizukage loses since he can't damage the 3rd Raikage. At the very least he gets a place on this list, but no place at all? Must be some kind of joke.

Eh? Danzo can't touch Itachi. Totsuka left and right, not to mention that Izanagi isn't saving Danzo from being sealed. Itachi does what Sasuke did since he's better at genjutsu. Itachi is basically a superior MS Sasuke. 7th Gate Gai stands no chance at all. Amateratsu ends him, or Yata repels his attacks, v4 tanks all his attacks. Muu loses since Yata counters his Jinton. Sharingan can perceive him and end him with Amateratsu/Tsukiyomi. Tobirama loses, his edo is sealed as well. Minato loses as well, he can't counter Itachi's crow genjutsu similarly to Tobirama. Kisame is one shotted via Tsukiyomi. 2nd Mizukage is countered via Susano swinging an enlarged Tostuka round and round till his claim is split in hald. Bee loses to Tsukiyomi, Totsuka.

u r forgettin one thing

Minato is super fast and has ma and pa as summons he also has sage mode which can make him super fast without FTG and he can hurt the 3rd raikage via his own attack or sound genjutsu.

Minato is basically faser than 3rd raikage. in respect to tobirama who can also use FTG he can use the paper bomb technique.
 

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1. Kaguya.
2. Hagoromo.
3. Madara.
4. Sasuke/Naruto.
5. Naruto/Sasuke.
6. Rikudobito Kakashi.
7. Obito.
8. Orochimaru.
9. Kabuto.
10. Hashirama.

Naruto and Sasuke are above Madara.

If this is JJ Obito, his placement is fine.

11. Nagato.
12. B.
13. 2nd Mizukage.
14. Kisame.
15. Minato.
16. Tobirama.
17. Muu.
18. 7th gate Guy.
19. Danzo.
20. Itachi.

Itachi>Mizukage, Kisame, and Danzo.

Gai>Kisame, whether it was a bad match up or not.

Where is the 3rd Raikage? Where is SM Jiraiya?
 

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Kaguya

Hagoromo

Naruto

Sasuke

Madara

Obito

DMS Kakashi

Gai [8th gate]

Orochimaru [edo tensei]

Kabuto [edo tensei]

Hashirama

Minato [BM]

Nagato

Killer Bee

Itachi

Tobirama

Mu

2nd Mizukage

3rd Raikage

Onoki
 
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Everyone in their strongest form. The only restriction are suicidal jutsu. No characters with 0 panel time or hype only.

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Added forgotten Muu and thereby Jiraya is off the list.

1. Kaguya.
2. Hagoromo.
3. Madara.
4. Sasuke/Naruto.
5. Naruto/Sasuke.
6. Rikudobito Kakashi.
7. Obito.
8. Orochimaru.
9. Kabuto.
10. Hashirama.
11. Nagato.
12. B.
13. 2nd Mizukage.
14. Kisame.
15. Minato.
16. Tobirama.
17. Muu.
18. 7th gate Guy.
19. Danzo.
20. Itachi.

2nd mizukage shouldn't be there, and Itachi > Danzo, 7th gate gai, and muu
 

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Naruto and Sasuke are above Madara.

If this is JJ Obito, his placement is fine.

I still am not convinced that they are above Madara. And it is JJ Obito indeed.


Itachi>Mizukage, Kisame, and Danzo.

Gai>Kisame, whether it was a bad match up or not.

Where is the 3rd Raikage? Where is SM Jiraiya?

Itachi isn't above any of ones you mentioned.

Imo Kisame with intel and Samehada can beat 7th gate Gai and even if he for some reasons couldn't, it doesn't make Gai go up past Kisame in the tier list.

The only one 3rd Raikage can beat out of my top20 is Gai, but it's not enough to get a spot in it. Jiraya actually was on the list but was moved to position 21 due to me forgetting to put Muu on it in the first place.
 

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Lel Kisame loses to Gai with or without intel.
 

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Any top 20 without Tsunade is a good top 20.
 
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