Top 10 without Kekkei Genkai/Kekkei Touta OR Famed Bloodlines

[FemmeFatale]

@Femme, Tsunade completely healed Shikamaru with a tap on the forehead. Sakura is nowhere near her skill level although she'll get there eventually.

Lol tsunade was just showing off. Lol and thats the power of almost rivals

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

BM Minato roflstomps 3rd Raikage neg dif.

 

[Transcendence]

Bijuu Modo Minato is far above anyone on that list. Sasori's spot is debatable, along with Kakuzu. They are all roughly equal and a valiant argument can be made for Sasori beating Kisame, Kisame beating Kakuzu etc. ​

 

[Avinash012]

IMO Rikages were born with famed bloodline coz it is not possible for a noramal person to have that kind of inhuman bodies and Bijju level chakra level's.
Also I would put Minato above 3rd Rikage.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Hiruzen? Are you talking about prime hiruzen? If that's the case, ***** shoul be very first. Strongest hokage. Use all techs.

Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞

I don't follow that Hiruzen hype BS unless its completely revealed in the manga. Hiruzen is atleast stronger than Danzo(based off of Danzo's words), Third Raikage, Muu and Second Mizukage(based off an Kishi interview).

 

[genii96]

3rd raikage is overrated:|

 

[Pwner10144]

I don't think BM minato is below sandaime raikage. I mean, minato is moe likely faster, and he has FTG. Plus, he has more power because of the BM, and most likely sensor skills too(kyuubi's chakra)
Also, does bee have hachibi? If yes, then I think he should be higher too. I mean, he is below sasori.

This is by far the most accurate and sensible suggestion so far, now you need to edit your mistakes. If you don't, but instead come out with bs such as, "but this is my opinion", than, I have lost respect for your sir. ~ To BlacLord

 

[Wolfus]

I don't follow that Hiruzen hype BS unless its completely revealed in the manga. Hiruzen is atleast stronger than Danzo(based off of Danzo's words), Third Raikage, Muu and Second Mizukage(based off an Kishi interview).

Hahahaha, what? But he can use all konoha jutsus... Nah, I'm just joking. But I don't think hiruzen is above danzo, not by feats I mean. What can he do, throw shuriken? That was early in the manga, when danzou didn't have KA and izanagi(I guess that was the time danzou was talking about, perhaps he wasn't even talking about power)

And what is this kishi's interview? Because hiruzen didn't display enough to be put above 3rd raikage.

 

[-immortal-]

1).sakura allegedly

Butch please. calm ur tits if u have them. take a time to drink wuth me

 

[Wolfus]

This is by far the most accurate and sensible suggestion so far, now you need to edit your mistakes. If you don't, but instead come out with bs such as, "but this is my opinion", than, I have lost respect for your sir.

I used the expression "I think", which already suggests it's my opinion, right? But I can debate about it, if you want. I mean, I can prove that bee and minato could be higher.

 

[Pwner10144]

I used the expression "I think", which already suggests it's my opinion, right? But I can debate about it, if you want. I mean, I can prove that bee and minato could be higher.

My apologies, I edited my previous post, to clarify who I was talking to.

 

[Wolfus]

My apologies, I edited my previous post, to clarify who I was talking to.

No problem, man. I agree with what you said, by the way. But I ddin't edit that post, because for some reason, I can't edit any of my posts. I click, but the text dissapears, and I can't "go advanced" either.

 

[Kayin]

Killer bee is number two behind because minato bm and sealing jutsu technique/knowledges

 

[Derek1st]

How the heck is the 3rd raikage stronger than Bijuumode naruto? He couldn't even take on the hachibi 1v1. Secondly, how the hell is Orochimaru above SM jiraiya? Jiraiya is one still in the top 10 even WITH kkg's

 

[Pwner10144]

No problem, man. I agree with what you said, by the way. But I ddin't edit that post, because for some reason, I can't edit any of my posts. I click, but the text dissapears, and I can't "go advanced" either.

I see, have you tried using a different browser?

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Hahahaha, what? But he can use all konoha jutsus... Nah, I'm just joking. But I don't think hiruzen is above danzo, not by feats I mean. What can he do, throw shuriken? That was early in the manga, when danzou didn't have KA and izanagi(I guess that was the time danzou was talking about, perhaps he wasn't even talking about power)

And what is this kishi's interview? Because hiruzen didn't display enough to be put above 3rd raikage.

In Danzo's final moments he said, "Hiruzen, in the end I couldn't surpass you."

It was an old 2011 interview about the "God of Shinobi" monikor. When it came to Hiruzen, Kishi said "Hiruzen was truly a powerful shinobi. He went undefeated during the second and third wars and earned himself the moniker of God of Shinobi. He defeated every appointed that challenged him, even Kages." Those who were Kage during the 2nd and 3rd wars were 3rd Raikage, Muu, 2nd Mizu, Ay and Onoki.

 

[Megatolium]

Shouldn't Guy be 4th? He defeated Kisame and held against an Bijuu alone...

 

[BlacLord™]

IMO Rikages were born with famed bloodline coz it is not possible for a noramal person to have that kind of inhuman bodies and Bijju level chakra level's.
Also I would put Minato above 3rd Rikage.

Kisame has Bijuu-level chakra and only Sandaime has shown stamina feats concerning the Raikage, in fact, Ay's stamina was put on similar levels to the rest of the Kage here:

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The only reason Naruto was able to beat the 3rd is because of Sage Mode sensing/Prior intel. And since a Rasenshuriken didn't do much damage to him, a "mere" Rasengan isn't going to cut it.

 

[namikaze12]

Kakashi should be top 10, Kisame's weakness is lightning do the math

 

[Wolfus]

In Danzo's final moments he said, "Hiruzen, in the end I couldn't surpass you."

It was an old 2011 interview about the "God of Shinobi" monikor. When it came to Hiruzen, Kishi said "Hiruzen was truly a powerful shinobi. He went undefeated during the second and third wars and earned himself the moniker of God of Shinobi. He defeated every appointed that challenged him, even Kages." Those who were Kage during the 2nd and 3rd wars were 3rd Raikage, Muu, 2nd Mizu, Ay and Onoki.

I see, but as I said, I don't think danzou was talking about power, I guess he was talking about "achievements" and ideals, given the context.

Is this interview real, or is it just some BS internet made? Because disconsidering that, hiruzen is not able to take on those 2. Kishi should more careful with his words. He say something like that, but then he makes hiruzen throw shuriken at juubito?