First of all, DMS kakashi AKA prime kakashi has rikudou chakra, so don't assume he doesnt in this situation, and hashi doesnt, so stop giving him what he does'nt have, kamui raikiri oneshots hashi, and about oro and kabuto, kabuto has sage mode, oro doesnt, how is oro superior when kabuto is amped by other powers on top of his sage mode, let's assume oro is stronger, how the hell are the hokage taking out kabutos edo army? How? Kabuto has edo madara,nagato,itach, muu, gengetsu, third raikage, edo akatsuki members bar kisame and konan, gin/ kin bros, hanzou, dan kimmimaru, 7 swordsmen, gaaras dad, and some fodders, edo madara with a lil help from muu defeats hashi, gin/kin bros along with 7 swordsmen,hanzou, kimmi and gaaras dad defeat tobirama, nagato and itachi *****stomp BM minato, kakuzu, sasori and deidara shitstomp hiruzen, 3rd raikage gengetsu would chill and act as subs, so tell me how oros edo army win?
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Never mind about Hashi, I've found the information, I was wrong, I thought you only needed one of the sons chakra to have rikudou chakra. Kamui Raikiri sounds nice and all but it didn't actually do anything kamui related to Kaguya(granted she is Kaguya)
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Oro didn't have a body healthy enough to withstand sage mode at any point(until his Zetsu body) in the manga but his knowledge of the snake sage's location, his knowledge on the workings of Juugo's clan, his ability to use senjutsu in his curse marks and his research and evident desire to obtain rinnegan(why he was so focused on getting a Sharingan, it's a vital step to reach Rinnegan) clearly shows he knew how to attain Sage Mode just lacked the body at the time.
Kabuto's edo army is Oro's edo army they're a stalemate or it comes down to who can do it quicker and Oro being the older, more experienced and quite honestly better shinobi(at base level it's unarguable a sannin or an orphan a sannin took and turned into a killer) will get most of the summons first. Unless you can prove Kabuto went out and got specific dna samples himself after Oro's death there's nothing to suggest the DNA samples didn't come from one of Oro's lairs. Or do you honestly believe Oro's entire Edo supply consists solely of the 4 Hokage he pulled out of the RDS? Madara may be the only one unique to Kabuto since an argument could be made that Oro never found Madara's DNA(Despite all the blood at the battle field) since he lived through that battle and Kabuto only got some of it through Obito, it's purely speculation but it's founded on reasoning.
Madara would need more than a little help seeing as their original battle took(what seemed to be implied as) days and Hashi still won, so no it wouldn't be a little help.
Tobi might be, we really didn't get to see a lot of strong showings from Tobi so who knows, that's a lot of people. Seems likely too since Gin and Kin were said to have done quite a number on him, and then there's the whole thing about losing to 20 random ninja, so yeah with his weak showing there's not much to refute that.
Now you're overestimating one of the two here and I'm leaning toward Itachi. Plus what makes you think Tobirama(A Uchiha hater) wouldn't use FTG and Bringer of Darkness right off the bat to take out another Uchiha? Plus, If Kakashi realized to avoid eye contact why would you assume Minato wouldn't, he was said to have a great tactical mind and he's known about the Uchiha and their genjutsu for a long time growing up in Konoha. I'm not positive who would win but a shitstomp is clear overestimation, I'm betting you're gonna say but Naruto escaped it and it's unknown whether it's pull can overpower FTG's power, Minato could just FTG to one of his marks while being sucked into CT for all we know and since we don't actually know how one thing affects the other in this situation it's kind of impossible to definitively say one way or the other or at what level but congratulations to you for doing it anyway.
Yeah ok, Prime Hiruzen(not the hypey one on here but the realistic one) gets taken out by three of the chumpest Akatsuki(and I like Sasori) You know the prime version of that guy who stalemated one of Hashirama(the god of Shinobi)'s strongest attacks with 4 shadow clones. The guy who knew every jutsu in Konoha since it's inception. Yeah he's gonna get low-diffed by a guy with 5 hearts, a guy qith 100 puppets and a guy with a lot of clay bombs. Kakshi was given a showing to suggest he could take out Deidara, adn Kakashi again was making good ground against Kakuzu. Sasori's poison is the biggest obstacle but if Sakura could make some then a mad scientist like Oro has a fighting chance at making some as well.
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Glad you get the rikudou part, okay, kamui raikiri is an attack that kakashi has nothing to fear bout when attacking coz he aint in danger he is intangible, yes its a temporary power but with rikudou chakra he can maintain it long enough to kill hashi, kamui bypass anything hashi has, if he is getting close to kamuis time limit then kakashi just flies in his PS, spam kamui shuriken, kakashis speed is enhanced due to rikudou chakra, we already saw how fast he saved sakura from those rabbit hands and how fast he took out kaguyas arm, so he is indeed fast enough to land a kamui raikiri on hashi, or kamui snipe, kamui raikiri is definately connecting though, even if hashi sets up a defence to block against it, like a standard enclosing himself in wood, a rikudou enhanced chidori would pierce the wood and pierce hashi, ( after all a non rikudou chidori bypassed domu which is as hard as diamond)
And about the second part, yes oro did'nt have the body for sage mode, and he might get it now due to hashi cells or pirated hashi cells ( zetsu cells) , it does'nt change the fact that he can't maintain it for long, he does'nt have juugos curse mode power, since he aint from the bipolar clan, its not something you gain just like that, he gives out the curse mode, but oro himself doesnt have it because his body (that he loathed) is not compatable so he does'nt have it, so kabuto would outlast oro due to having the ability to constantly gather senjutsu chakra, secondly saying kabutos army is oros army is your own assumption, as kabuto went on a grave hunt to gather his edo army, unless you think the oro that was sealed somehow came out and took, itachis dna, or nagato who all died after oro was sealed, and I know for sure none of the two went to oro for tests, so no its not oros army, its kabutos, we had two fillers that was implied that kabuto was digging up graves and getting dna, yes its filler it doesnt matter, but even the people that made the filler think its kabutos not that it matters though, chikara and one other filler, that said, kabutos army is his alone, it was'nt shown in anyway that its oros army, even in part one he only summoned the hokages which furthuer proves my point
And about hashi losing to madz with muus help, hashi already stalemated with edo madara, muu is a bad matchup for hashi coz muu can't be sensed by normal sensing, unless one has sensing on RSM narutos level or has contact sensing, hashi has only sage mode sensing, kcm naruto could'nt sense muu so I dont think hashi can, muu evades almost all of Hashis attacks and we all know jinton >>> moukhtun, so he disintegrates the golem and help madara, so yea it would be a lil help
3rdly, nagato with mazou >>> shits on any bijuu, the mazou is shown to be bijuus nightmare, BM minato has to fight all those summons with the mazou aswell as itachis susano, and kyuubi is not an edo, so BM minato at a point would lose his avatar, (not that nagato won't already remove it with the mazou) ama burns all the kunai markings, and together they stomp minato, I dont need to talk bout the others
And about hashi losing to madz with muus help, hashi already stalemated with edo madara, muu is a bad matchup for hashi coz muu can't be sensed by normal sensing, unless one has sensing on RSM narutos level or has contact sensing, hashi has only sage mode sensing, kcm naruto could'nt sense muu so I dont think hashi can, muu evades almost all of Hashis attacks and we all know jinton >>> moukhtun, so he disintegrates the golem and help madara, so yea it would be a lil help
3rdly, nagato with mazou >>> shits on any bijuu, the mazou is shown to be bijuus nightmare, BM minato has to fight all those summons with the mazou aswell as itachis susano, and kyuubi is not an edo, so BM minato at a point would lose his avatar, (not that nagato won't already remove it with the mazou) ama burns all the kunai markings, and together they stomp minato, I dont need to talk bout the others
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