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Rinnegan Sasuke > RSM Naruto

Manga disagrees. Plain and simple. Sasuke w/ Rinnegan, EMS and Bijuu Chakra tied against Naruto w/ the world's Nature Energy. Naruto can do what he did any time he wants. Sasuke can't. Naruto=Sasuke w/ Bijuu Chakra>>Rinnegan Sasuke.

He tied against Naruto in a physical battle even though he didn't use even 10% of the Rinnegan's potential.

He used what mattered, that's why. Lmao. His Rinnegan techs are irrelevant in the face of Perfect Susanoo w/ the Bijuu's Chakra. If his Rinnegan techs were stronger, he would've used them.

He only used EMS powers to fight Naruto which were Rinnegan enhanced whereas Naruto used RSM i.e. everything he had. If Kishi didn't nerf Sasuke and used his Rinnegan properly (even if he only used Ameno to its full potential), Sasuke could have defeated Naruto. Let alone the Six Paths techniques.
Stopped taking you seriously when you said that Kishi nerfed Sasuke. Please read above.


He used Preta Path at the very end because if he used it earlier, he could defeat Naruto which Kishi didn't want.

If Preta Path was enough to defeat Naruto, then he wouldn't have lost. It's that simple. Don't take what Sasuke had, but didn't use, and make it seem like it would've lead him to victory.


He used only 20% of Ameno's potential, and I'm being generous in calculations here, because if he used Ameno to its full potential, then GG, which Kishi didn't want.

Uh, no. He did what Ameno does. Shift positions, twice. Yet Naruto lived through both occasions.
 

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I would put JJ dual rinnegan shinju absorbed madara with hagoromo/hamura. Other than that yea I agree mostly.
1.Kaguya
2.Sage of the six Paths/Hamura/Madara
3.Ashura/Indra/Sasuke/Naruto
4.Obito(Six Paths/JJ)
5.DMS Kakashi (for like 2 minutes, then he's gone below 10)
6.Hashirama
7.Guy (8th Gate)
8.Kabuto
9.Orochimaru (Both Arms/Zetsu Body/DSM/Edo Tensei/Shin?!)
10.Pain/Nagato
 

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Manga disagrees. Plain and simple.

The manga doesn't disagree. You do, because of your lame comprehension.

Sasuke w/ Rinnegan, EMS and Bijuu Chakra tied against Naruto w/ the world's Nature Energy. Naruto can do what he did any time he wants. Sasuke can't. Naruto=Sasuke w/ Bijuu Chakra>>Rinnegan Sasuke.

Why are you even putting Rinnegan in the equation when absolutely nothing Rinnegan related was used, atleast not to any significant extent?

Plus, Sasuke can also do what he did anytime he wants. The bijuus were just an additional chakra reserves for Sasuke's techniques because his own reserves weren't sufficient, not a source of empowerment. Sasuke said that Indra's Arrow is HIS most powerful technique. If it had anything to do with the bijuus, he'd have mentioned it or there should be some other evidence like Kurama saying something. Now, he can easily create Indra's Arrow without the bijuus anytime because he'll have more than enough chakra to carry it out. Naruto better be lucky enough to collect the right amount of natural energy in time to get saved...

He used what mattered, that's why. Lmao. His Rinnegan techs are irrelevant in the face of Perfect Susanoo w/ the Bijuu's Chakra. If his Rinnegan techs were stronger, he would've used them.

You can underrate Rinnegan abilities to make your point valid all you want. But the reality is that Kishi dumbed down Sasuke's powers. Rinnegan may not be as good as PS in terms of firepower, but it has many other uses you may not be able to perceive due to being biased and ignorant. Even intelligently used Ameno (at the appropriate time) could've wrecked Naruto. Let alone Preta Path and soul ripping. Let alone gigantic animal summons that never get eliminated. Even using genjutsu at the perfect moment could temporarily paralyze Naruto and buy Sasuke even a small amount of time to hit Naruto.

Stopped taking you seriously when you said that Kishi nerfed Sasuke. Please read above.

Instead of not taking me seriously, better work on your own comprehension. Kishi clearly dumbed down Sasuke's powers with irrelevant use to give Naruto the advantage. He didn't use Amenotejikara properly (I'll give an example below). He used Preta Path at the very end so that Naruto didn't get wrecked due to running out of chakra much earlier. And I've also explained a few things above.

If Preta Path was enough to defeat Naruto, then he wouldn't have lost. It's that simple. Don't take what Sasuke had, but didn't use, and make it seem like it would've lead him to victory.

I might have to take you like a child, but I'll do it anyway. I already told you Kishi made Sasuke use Preta Path at the very end to save Naruto. Using Preta Path earlier would've killed Naruto, that's why. If he used Preta Path to its maximum extent, he could've absorbed most of the attacks from Naruto while Naruto had to take all of his attacks. That'd make a significant difference. And if he used Preta Path earlier, he could've kept absorbing Naruto's chakra and kept his own intact. Naruto would've run out of chakra first and died.

Uh, no. He did what Ameno does. Shift positions, twice. Yet Naruto lived through both occasions.

Why didn't he save some chakra on that Amaterasu coated Chidori attack by using only basic Chidori, and then swapped places with Naruto's Rasengan using Ameno by using that saved chakra, and instant KO'd Naruto? It's obvious, Kishi restricted the full usage of Sasuke's powers to save Naruto.
 
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My list
1. Kaguya
2. Three Eyed Madara
3. Naruto (The Last)
4. Sasuke (VOTE II)
5. Toneri
6. Obito (DMS/JJ)
7. Kakashi (DMS)
8. Might Gai (Eight Gates)
9. Hashirama
10. Minato (Bijuu Mode)
I will have to agree with this guys! The perfect list here :)
 
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1. Kaguya
2. Rikudo Sennin
3. Kakashi Hatake
4. Madara Uchiha
5. Naruto Uzumaki
6. Gai Maito
7. Sasuke Uchiha
8. Obito Uchiha
9. Hamura
10. Ashura
 

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The manga doesn't disagree. You do, because of your lame comprehension.



Why are you even putting Rinnegan in the equation when absolutely nothing Rinnegan related was used, atleast not to any significant extent?

It wasn't used because it's irrelevant. I suggest you stop making excuses. It makes your argument look pathetic.

Plus, Sasuke can also do what he did anytime he wants. The bijuus were just an additional chakra reserves for Sasuke's techniques because his own reserves weren't sufficient, not a source of empowerment. Sasuke said that Indra's Arrow is HIS most powerful technique. If it had anything to do with the bijuus, he'd have mentioned it or there should be some other evidence like Kurama saying something. Now, he can easily create Indra's Arrow without the bijuus anytime because he'll have more than enough chakra to carry it out. Naruto better be lucky enough to collect the right amount of natural energy in time to get saved...

See, here we go. You making one excuse after another, and this one doesn't even begin to make any sense. The Bijuu increased the POWER of his Susanoo. Period. Bijuu PS>>PS. Indra's Arrow being his most powerful technique either means that it's a technique he can only use when he has the Bijuu Chakra, or he can use it w/o the Bijuu chakra, but it'd be weak in comparison to what it was w/ the Bijuu Chakra.

Him using the Bijuu Chakra to create his arrow doesn't change the fact that it's his arrow, so there is no clash here. You are only trying to create one to validate your piss poor excuses.

You can underrate Rinnegan abilities to make your point valid all you want. But the reality is that Kishi dumbed down Sasuke's powers. Rinnegan may not be as good as PS in terms of firepower, but it has many other uses you may not be able to perceive due to being biased and ignorant. Even intelligently used Ameno (at the appropriate time) could've wrecked Naruto. Let alone Preta Path and soul ripping. Let alone gigantic animal summons that never get eliminated. Even using genjutsu at the perfect moment could temporarily paralyze Naruto and buy Sasuke even a small amount of time to hit Naruto.

The fact you are mentioning Animal Summon in a fight against RSM Naruto only shows me why I can't take anything in this terrible post of yours seriously. Human Path? When he is fighting Naruto w/ Susanoo? Go on. Tell me how that makes any sense. Stop making excuses. If Sasuke was better off using his Rinnegan to fight Naruto, he would've done so. That simple. Kishi made it clear that in his Manga, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke w/o the Bijuu. Everything and anything else is an opinion that I don't care for.

Instead of not taking me seriously, better work on your own comprehension. Kishi clearly dumbed down Sasuke's powers with irrelevant use to give Naruto the advantage. He didn't use Amenotejikara properly (I'll give an example below). He used Preta Path at the very end so that Naruto didn't get wrecked due to running out of chakra much earlier. And I've also explained a few things above.

Please read above.


I might have to take you like a child, but I'll do it anyway. I already told you Kishi made Sasuke use Preta Path at the very end to save Naruto. Using Preta Path earlier would've killed Naruto, that's why. If he used Preta Path to its maximum extent, he could've absorbed most of the attacks from Naruto while Naruto had to take all of his attacks. That'd make a significant difference. And if he used Preta Path earlier, he could've kept absorbing Naruto's chakra and kept his own intact. Naruto would've run out of chakra first and died.

That's a terrible strategy. If he's using Preta Path, he can't use Susanoo. Naruto would be able to take him out with anything that isn't Ninjutsu related while Sasuke is busy absorbing all the big attacks Naruto is throwing at him. Kokuo's Kariki Musou increases Naruto's physical power beyond that of Kaguya's chakra arm. He'd paste Sasuke w/o one hit while he sat there, stupidly absorbing all of Naruto's big attacks instead of countering with Susanoo.

Sasuke at full power couldn't beat Naruto. He tied. You are going to have to deal with it.





Why didn't he save some chakra on that Amaterasu coated Chidori attack by using only basic Chidori, and then swapped places with Naruto's Rasengan using Ameno by using that saved chakra, and instant KO'd Naruto? It's obvious, Kishi restricted the full usage of Sasuke's powers to save Naruto.

What's funny is that in the process of making excuses, you've either intentionally or accidentally forgotten how to read the Manga. At the end of the fight, his Rinnegan was useless. He didn't have the chakra to maintain it, period. So how in the hell is he going to use Ameno? Lmao. Enough chakra to use Chidori Enton=/=Enough chakra to use his Rinnegan, which was closed from the moment his Avatar was wrecked to the end of the fight.

Kishimoto showed that Naruto=Sasuke w/ outside power>>Sasuke. End of story. Your opinion means nothing in the face of what the author has portrayed.
 

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Kabuto in his strongest form solos Tobirama.
 

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1- Kaguya
2- JJ Hagoromo
3- Non jin Hagoromo, Hamura, JJ Madara
4- Naruto with natural energy / Sasuke with bijuus
5- Sasuke with bijuus/ Naruto with natural energy
6- DMS Kakashi
7- Juubito
8- Gai
9- SM Hashirama
10- Kabuto with edo army
 

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It wasn't used because it's irrelevant. I suggest you stop making excuses. It makes your argument look pathetic.

Excuses, huh? You better start understanding stuff. I suggest... Just because you are unable to perceive the proper and effective use of Rinnegan in battle doesn't make it irrelevant, it only makes your comprehension look pale. There are a lot of things Rinnegan is/was capable of on several occasions (not necessarily in terms of raw power), and those weren't used to keep Sasuke on Naruto's level.

See, here we go. You making one excuse after another, and this one doesn't even begin to make any sense. The Bijuu increased the POWER of his Susanoo. Period. Bijuu PS>>PS. Indra's Arrow being his most powerful technique either means that it's a technique he can only use when he has the Bijuu Chakra, or he can use it w/o the Bijuu chakra, but it'd be weak in comparison to what it was w/ the Bijuu Chakra.

Him using the Bijuu Chakra to create his arrow doesn't change the fact that it's his arrow, so there is no clash here. You are only trying to create one to validate your piss poor excuses.

Alright, I'll agree that Bijuus' chakra increased the power of the Susanoo and its techniques (for the sake of argument). Which means Sasuke can't produce Indra's Arrow to the same power again, since he doesn't have Bijuus' chakra anymore. That's done. But what guarantees that Naruto will be able to collect the same amount of natural energy at the right time to counter Sasuke's "weaker" Indra's Arrow? Nothing. Naruto was only lucky that it happened, it's not something that could happen whenever Naruto desired, just like Sasuke can't get the Bijuus chakra whenever he desires. Which means Naruto's supercharged Rasenshurikens would be similarly weak as Sasuke's Indra's Arrow. You're neglecting the same disadvantage for Naruto. Ignorance at its finest!

Plus, Sasuke could even produce the "weaker" Indra's Arrow at the very start of the fight when Naruto would have absolutely no natural energy to produce rivalling attacks, even Naruto's most powerful attack at that time would be no match for Indra's Arrow. How about expanding your thinking capacity and considering that?

And even if those reasons aren't enough for you, let me devise further counters to help you out. Sasuke could absorb the natural energy Naruto (actually Kurama) collects for the supercharged Rasenshurikens using Preta Path, and use it to produce Indra's Arrow (assuming Naruto gets lucky enough to collect the same amount of natural energy as before), which will produce a similarly powered Indra's Arrow leading to stalemate. Or he could simply use Ameno to dodge the attack, no harm done to anyone. Or he could potentially use Ameno to swap places with Naruto, and put Naruto in front of the approaching Rasenshuriken attacks. There's absolutely nothing Naruto could do, even with his Kurama Avatar to evade or stop the attack. He will have to take the full force of the attack which will cause massive damage, Naruto gets wrecked. Sasuke remains unharmed in all of those scenarios. The point is whatever excuse you make, you can't change the fact that Rinnegan Sasuke > RSM Naruto (if Sasuke uses his powers intelligently and to their full extent).

The fact you are mentioning Animal Summon in a fight against RSM Naruto only shows me why I can't take anything in this terrible post of yours seriously.

The fact that you think I'm mentioning Animal Path summons to fight on equal terms with Naruto's RSM Kurama Avatar only shows how damn stupid you are. They are obviously side helpers, and definite distractions and hurdles for Naruto since they can't be eliminated, and will keep causing problems for Naruto. The main fight will obviously be between Sasuke's PS and Naruto's RSM Kurama Avatar, which these summons as sidekicks for Sasuke. Sasuke will have the upper hand against Naruto even with all his toad summons.

Human Path? When he is fighting Naruto w/ Susanoo? Go on. Tell me how that makes any sense. Stop making excuses.

Rip out Naruto's soul when the RSM Kurama Avatar disappears (Naruto isn't going to stay in his avatar forever)... And I know you are going to make stupid excuses so I'll counter this in advance. If you say Sasuke won't have enough chakra, then listen up. Sasuke will first absorb enough chakra from Naruto using Preta Path to use Human Path to rip out Naruto's soul when he's weak enough. Little things can be immensely helpful.

If Sasuke was better off using his Rinnegan to fight Naruto, he would've done so. That simple.

I'm sorry, but weren't you listening to me when I acquainted the reason Sasuke was restrained from using Rinnegan to its full potential. Kishi dumbed down Sasuke's powers to keep him equal to Naruto. That's the reason Sasuke didn't use his Rinnegan to its maximum extent. How could he have "done so" if the plot restricted it? Even Kurama noted that Sasuke was not able to use Preta Path along with other techniques. This limitation alone made them lucky. Imagine him being able to use Rinnegan (Six Paths techniques) to its full potential in that fight. He'd have wrecked Naruto (that's if the plot allowed it).

Kishi made it clear that in his Manga, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke w/o the Bijuu. Everything and anything else is an opinion that I don't care for.

Kishi didn't do that. You believed that of your own accord because you only see things from the surface and ignore the minor details.

Please read above.

Yeah, read it. And my argument still pertains.

That's a terrible strategy. If he's using Preta Path, he can't use Susanoo. Naruto would be able to take him out with anything that isn't Ninjutsu related while Sasuke is busy absorbing all the big attacks Naruto is throwing at him. Kokuo's Kariki Musou increases Naruto's physical power beyond that of Kaguya's chakra arm. He'd paste Sasuke w/o one hit while he sat there, stupidly absorbing all of Naruto's big attacks instead of countering with Susanoo.

There are two things I can conclude from this. Either you're darn stupid and didn't understand what I was trying to say (I didn't call Preta Path an alternative of Susanoo, for f***s sake. Just because he used Susanoo doesn't mean he can't use Preta Path at all ever) or you maybe forgot to read the rest of fight after PS and Kurama Avatar got destroyed, and failed to notice all the opportunities Sasuke got to absorb Naruto's chakra (which he didn't avail), or you were not able to conclude the application of Preta Path during that time period.

Naruto won't have the Kurama Avatar activated all the time and till the very end of the fight. As soon as he can't maintain the Avatar, Sasuke will take advantage of than moment and start absorbing his chakra. Sasuke could've absorbed Naruto's chakra during their taijutsu fight (which he didn't due to plot restriction). And when Kurama gave him more chakra, he could've absorbed that as well. The fact that he used Preta Path so late didn't allow him to absorb Naruto's remaining chakra. He only absorbed what Kurama gave Naruto, which wasn't enough to kill Naruto from chakra shortage.

Sasuke at full power couldn't beat Naruto. He tied. You are going to have to deal with it.

Yeah, apparently he couldn't defeat Naruto (because the plot didn't allow it). But he CAN defeat Naruto, POTENTIALLY. And whatever you say, I'm always going to judge their power by their potential, and not by the result of their fight. If you want to continue with your immature approach of judging their power by the results of their battle, go on. I can't stop you...

What's funny is that in the process of making excuses, you've either intentionally or accidentally forgotten how to read the Manga. At the end of the fight, his Rinnegan was useless. He didn't have the chakra to maintain it, period. So how in the hell is he going to use Ameno? Lmao. Enough chakra to use Chidori Enton=/=Enough chakra to use his Rinnegan, which was closed from the moment his Avatar was wrecked to the end of the fight.

What's funny is that in the process of defending Naruto's weaknesses against Sasuke, you also either intentionally or accidentally forgot that Sasuke also lost control of his EMS powers when he was about to hit Naruto with Chidori (right after absorbing Kurama's chakra). But following that occurence, in the end of the fight, he used Kagutsuchi along with Chidori with the EXACT SAME EYES i.e. he used his EMS powers, which he evidently lost control of. He could do the same with the Rinnegan if he preserved chakra. I'm sorry to say, but that's the case.

And what's also funny is that in the process of spewing bias, you either intentionally or accidentally forgot that Sasuke used Preta Path to absorb Kurama's chakra from Naruto AFTER SUSANOO GOT DESTROYED i.e. after Sasuke lost control of his Rinnegan according to you. And I'm a 100% sure that Preta Path is a Rinnegan technique, which means he could use the Rinnegan apparently. Sorry if you don't like that fact.

Also, Kurama said that they were lucky he couldn't absorb and cast jutsus simultaneously, and I'm affirmative that absorbing ninjutsu is a Rinnegan technique (Preta Path) which indicates he could still use the Rinnegan if he wanted to.

I apologize for not falling victim of your bias and ignorance, and I'm also sorry to demolish your negligence and stupid excuses through logic, but that's the way it is. Against me, only logic and correct inference will work. I can't let you carry on with that, atleast not when you're arguing with me.

Kishimoto showed that Naruto=Sasuke w/ outside power>>Sasuke. End of story. Your opinion means nothing in the face of what the author has portrayed.

Don't put the conclusions of your pathetic comprehension on Kishimoto's account.
 
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