first and foremost please understand where hiphop comes from before you go all out on the dissing part... how you think it started yeah basically dudes spitting the truth about society and their communities in the park but battles has always been part of the hip hop culture.... plus ppl diss eachother ok , but you then see them on the same track down the road ( nas, jay-z, jadakiss, beanie seigal etc etc.) ppl forget its not about the music anymore its about the money ... which is why i call it pop rap.