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Toneri is a bit underrated
Not as much as oro tho...like it or not...:sdo:
Toneri is a bit underrated
I still say he doesn't beat nagato.
He's far above Nagato. Faster, stronger, more destructive abilities, can manipulate gravity as well and can absorb chakra w/ his orb as well. There's literally no area of combat Nagato has the advantage in.
Yeah toneri easily beats anyone that isn't a rikudou character level.
I dare to say that he can beat a few rikudou characters if he uses his ability's correctly.
lol. I can list non-rikudou characters he wouldn't beat on a good day. Hashirama to start.
lol. I can list non-rikudou characters he wouldn't beat on a good day. Hashirama to start.
You funny..
He'd send Hashi to the bushes.
Hashirama gets murked.
wow. all that green chakra must have been blinding you people. I should make a thread about this.
wow. all that green chakra must have been blinding you people. I should make a thread about this.
Nah. I maintain the opinion that toneri is all flash no bite.
KCM Naruto tanked that moon splitter tech. There's no confirmation on the thickness of the moon(with it being hollow). granted, the range of that tech is amazing but the actual strength is weak. Preta takes it. Then there's the other tech naruto was tanking with his cloaked hand, again preta takes it. To put it in perspective, I don't think naruto in just KCM could tank his own FRS(which nagato can absorb or blow away easily) so clearly those tech are pretty weak.
Chakra absorption gets nulled by preta too. No point trying to pull out nagato's charka when he'll be fighting back with preta. Ootsutsuki statue gets matched with tons of summons + gedo statue.
The only argument i listen to here is speed. KCM naruto during the war could not blitz nagato so I don't see it here if it's the same mode(the fact he got the other half of the kyuubi might affect his speed). I can't really tell here though. If toneri can match naruto's max ever speed or come close then he can blitz nagato. besides the speed thing though toneri is severely overrated and still wouldn't wreck nagato. might narrowly win though.
Also toneri's gudodama literally wreck nagato's entire arsenal, summonings included.Naruto dodged it. If he didn't dodge it he wouldn't be in the cracks he would've been pushed down and through the Moon itself. I do like the bold though. People don't take into account the fact that someone, likely Hamura, hollowed out the Moon so that an entire civilization could live there so they wank the hell out of his feat. So it cuts him in half, either that or Silver Wheel Reincarnation Explosion finises him.
Preta Path isn't helping though. Toneri has Gudo Dama, thus he uses Senjutsu. Too much Senjutsu absorbed=Nagato turning to stone. Then we have the fact that the Gudo Dama themselves are a weapon, a weapon Nagato can't block nor absorb.
That doesn't even make sense. Toneri's chakra absorption is stronger by feats nor can he fight back w/ Preta because Toneri absorbs chakra by hitting his opponent with a projectile. He drained Naruto of all his power in a split second. Ootsutsuki Statue was on par w/ Full Kurama's Avatar. Nagato could barely handle Half Kurama, his summons are inferior to the toads except for the Dog and Gedo Mazo was being beaten by B and KCM Naruto. It's not taking down the statue. The statue would obliterate it.
Toneri destroys him with zero difficulty.

Naruto dodged it. If he didn't dodge it he wouldn't be in the cracks he would've been pushed down and through the Moon itself. I do like the bold though. People don't take into account the fact that someone, likely Hamura, hollowed out the Moon so that an entire civilization could live there so they wank the hell out of his feat. So it cuts him in half, either that or Silver Wheel Reincarnation Explosion finises him.
Preta Path isn't helping though. Toneri has Gudo Dama, thus he uses Senjutsu. Too much Senjutsu absorbed=Nagato turning to stone. Then we have the fact that the Gudo Dama themselves are a weapon, a weapon Nagato can't block nor absorb.
That doesn't even make sense. Toneri's chakra absorption is stronger by feats nor can he fight back w/ Preta because Toneri absorbs chakra by hitting his opponent with a projectile. He drained Naruto of all his power in a split second. Ootsutsuki Statue was on par w/ Full Kurama's Avatar. Nagato could barely handle Half Kurama, his summons are inferior to the toads except for the Dog and Gedo Mazo was being beaten by B and KCM Naruto. It's not taking down the statue. The statue would obliterate it.
Toneri destroys him with zero difficulty.
Gotta agree with the Bold. but you once said that it can split a Perfect Susanoo in a half iirc.
do you still think that it can or nah..?
MaybeNot as much as oro tho...like it or not...:sdo:
On the contrary Toneri is extremely overrated. All the power he possesses yet he got whooped by a gimped Naruto. The only reason he was even able to absorb Naruto's chakra the first time around is because Naruto thought he could clash w/ that orb safely. He had that chakra ball technique against Naruto yet he ended up laid out with his eyes ripped out after the fact.
Hinata had to replenish Naruto's chakra after A Toneri who absorbed the power of the Tenseigan Energy Vessel (countless Byakugan along with Hamura's Tenseigan) absorbed it. If Toneri was capable of that with his own power he wouldn't have lost to Naruto.
And no, before fanboys pounce on this post no one is saying Toneri is weak. He's just not on par w/ Naruto or people on Naruto's level.
On the contrary Toneri is extremely overrated. All the power he possesses yet he got whooped by a gimped Naruto. The only reason he was even able to absorb Naruto's chakra the first time around is because Naruto thought he could clash w/ that orb safely. He had that chakra ball technique against Naruto yet he ended up laid out with his eyes ripped out after the fact.
Hinata had to replenish Naruto's chakra after A Toneri who absorbed the power of the Tenseigan Energy Vessel (countless Byakugan along with Hamura's Tenseigan) absorbed it. If Toneri was capable of that with his own power he wouldn't have lost to Naruto.
And no, before fanboys pounce on this post no one is saying Toneri is weak. He's just not on par w/ Naruto or people on Naruto's level.