Toddler Itachi thinking like a Kage isn't impressive after all

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He did over-hype him...

He merely stated that his reasoning was at kage level, when he was a kid.

It's his fan boys that over hyped him, claiming this to be genius material. It's his fanboys that over hype everything that kish says about Itach.
 

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I don't care whether Itachi thought like a Kage or not... But the point was that level of reasoning made him do difficult things that normal shinobi wouldn't even dream of.... LIKE! Killing your clan to save the village... duh!!!

And, like Sasuke said: 'Even after getting his name dirtied, still died protecting the village' by stopping the edo-tensei; face it DUDE, what Itachi did is way impressive than any other Uchiha that comes to mind xd
 

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Not only the fact that both became Kage. Tobirama was really the only one who showed great intellect. In the eyes of their father, Hashirama was still thinking as a child. Itachi was born around the ending of the 3rd shinobi war. He had seen many deaths as a toddler, because of that he was ironically a pacifist. So when Hiruzen talked about Itachi's feats that was during a state of peace, no other child were thinking along those line. Hashirama and Tobirama's era was a state of warfare all the kids wanted peace.
 

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Oh so the god of the shinobi world thinks like a kage when he was a little and so did itachi and that discredits him??? Im not following ur logic...How would thinking like the god of shinobi discredit you? Srsly...wtf
 

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Judging by what we saw in this chapter, Hashirama and Tobirama expressed views that are pretty much the core of their future policy. Since those two were Kages and judging their intellect overall one definitely can't classify them as geniuses of any sort, Itachi thinking like a Kage back when he was 7 doesn't seem special anymore.

Kishimoto wasn't very careful in this. He basically overhyped Itachi in one chapter, and then downgraded him back to normal.
I think you did'nt understand what kishi mean't dear.Kage level intellect does'nt means typical genius like shikaku,its the ability to reason and also wisdom at a great deal.To be a kage u need to have wisdom which itachi definately had.Its not easy to kill our own relatives for the sake of the peace and wellbeing of the village.Hizuren speech confirms that he had the same thinking when he was a kid of age 7.At this age most of the children play with toys.That time itachi's toy was the Sharingan which his same brother was able to activate at the age of 12.
And if u r talking about IQ is it suprising to see children with very high IQ at the age of toddeling even around us.
And how just after reading a single chapter u are able to determine that both kages have avg. Intellect.Its just too much early.Were just after seeing the 3rd episode u were able to determine that kakashi is a genius.Same applies for any charector who u think is genius
and after all the word genius depends upon the situation for eg during academy days sasuke was considered a genius whereas naruto a fool but what happened during the fight with zabuza.Every battle advocates for naruto's intellect but he still considered a knuklehead.
 

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Oh so the god of the shinobi world thinks like a kage when he was a little and so did itachi and that discredits him??? Im not following ur logic...How would thinking like the god of shinobi discredit you? Srsly...wtf
I think you did'nt understand what kishi mean't dear.Kage level intellect does'nt means typical genius like shikaku,its the ability to reason and also wisdom at a great deal.To be a kage u need to have wisdom which itachi definately had.Its not easy to kill our own relatives for the sake of the peace and wellbeing of the village.Hizuren speech confirms that he had the same thinking when he was a kid of age 7.At this age most of the children play with toys.That time itachi's toy was the Sharingan which his same brother was able to activate at the age of 12.
And if u r talking about IQ is it suprising to see children with very high IQ at the age of toddeling even around us.
And how just after reading a single chapter u are able to determine that both kages have avg. Intellect.Its just too much early.Were just after seeing the 3rd episode u were able to determine that kakashi is a genius.Same applies for any charector who u think is genius
and after all the word genius depends upon the situation for eg during academy days sasuke was considered a genius whereas naruto a fool but what happened during the fight with zabuza.Every battle advocates for naruto's intellect but he still considered a knuklehead.
Well what can I say? It appears that I am the only one not impressed by Hashirama's and Tobirama's way of thinking.

And again you are missing the point. What I am saying is that prior to this chapter we were under the impression that 7 year old Itachi was thinking like a mature adult Kage. Which this chapter proved to be not true.
 

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ans that's not impressive why?

and the most correct translation is Wisdom of a kage.
I never stated that it wasn't impressive.

Having wisdom like a kage doesn't make you a genius in the slightest, i'm merely stating that everyone takes what get's said out of context and uses it as a tool to talk about how he's a "Genius" and so on..

I don't think having faith and believing in what you are doing at a young age, automatically classes you as a genius.
 

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I never stated that it wasn't impressive.

Having wisdom like a kage doesn't make you a genius in the slightest, i'm merely stating that everyone takes what get's said out of context and uses it as a tool to talk about how he's a "Genius" and so on..

I don't think having faith and believing in what you are doing at a young age, automatically classes you as a genius.
I think your mad that Minato was shitting his pants at that age.
 

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I think your mad that Minato was shitting his pants at that age.
I don't believe that Minato has anything to do with this particular discussion, also unlike some people i'm not biased towards Minato.

I also take other peoples techniques and qualities in to account when talking about them. I just don't see how people can simply claim him to be a genius at that age, because he believed in what he was doing?
 

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Well what can I say? It appears that I am the only one not impressed by Hashirama's and Tobirama's way of thinking.

And again you are missing the point. What I am saying is that prior to this chapter we were under the impression that 7 year old Itachi was thinking like a mature adult Kage. Which this chapter proved to be not true.
well I am not able to understand what u mean to say.It was even stated earlier that itachi's this type of thinking was a result of the 3rd shinobi world war which had a lot impact on his young mind after which he was willing to do anything for peace.
at that age any child have just thought of revenge that's how a child brain works.If u slap me I'm gonna slap u too.but Itachi thought something diff.is it not enough to justify his sense of wisdom and deep thinking even prior to the chapter.If I am again missing the point plez can u elaborate what do u mean to say...
 

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True, but Hashirama said Itachi was better than him in regards to how he thought and acted. If Itachi would have been in his situation, he was probably implying whatever he came up with might have brought about better results.

Tobirama's idea of having rules was alright, but his choice caused more grief than good.
 
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